UFC Fight Night: Dillashaw vs. Cruz (January 17, 2016)

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  • FlipsideRM
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-28-11
    • 10518

    #806
    All 3 of the analysts on post game show have it 3-2 Cruz as well.
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    • Kermit
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      • 09-27-10
      • 32555

      #807
      Originally posted by Heyeverybody99
      Everybody here knows how bad of a decision that was. Everyone here who says that they had Cruz winning had money on that fight. He literally chased him the entire fight, while Cruz landed pillow fist shots. And then you also consider that TJ was the champ.....absolutely despicable.
      I don't know. Even after the fight when looking at their faces, it looked like TJ lost. Those pillow fists definitely touched TJ up a bit.
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      • JoshKnows46
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        • 07-27-12
        • 3691

        #808
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Thanks for living up to your end of the bargain on the bet points.. Stand up guy here!!!

        Just need GetLucky and Josh to pay up now...
        I already sent u 2, look up, can't send more.
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        • yisman
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-01-08
          • 75682

          #809
          Originally posted by shabang
          I missed part of the interview...what is torn on cruz's body?

          some of you guys should listen to big john's podcast.. he explains the decision in the condit lawler match and says the judges had it right... and he is right.. give it a listen.. he has all good points and breaks it down for us..

          he said he entered the fight with a foot injury and it wasn't the leg strikes, just that his foot finally had enough in the fifth round


          he said his foot was all torn up
          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
          [/quote]

          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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          • THE_LOCKSMITH
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-25-08
            • 7237

            #810
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            • bjpenn85
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-17-11
              • 5059

              #811
              Againt, cruz split dec had me winning back 80% of my TJ loss. Annoying Tj didnt win, i felt he won, but he should have went for the legs way earlier, and thats on bang. He doesnt give those award winning tips. TJ swinging wildly as well, fail to se that dominicks leg is hurt. Thats what youre going for a, a dum monkey swinging wildly with a bad couch, and judges that cant score. Cant really be angry for it, its a risky sport to bet on some times.
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              • JIBBBY
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-10-09
                • 83693

                #812
                Originally posted by Kermit
                I had him winning 3 rounds to 2. Had no money on him.
                I had Cruz winning the first 3 rounds and the 5th round was iffy myself.. No robbery here but I wouldn't have screamed robbery if TJ got the decision win either to be honest.. It was a close fight..
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                • ToPHeR
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-06-11
                  • 1326

                  #813
                  Unreal. After the lawler fight wtf??
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                  • richie360
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-30-11
                    • 680

                    #814
                    The fact Lawler kept his belt after the Condit fight and TJ loses his after this is a bit of a joke in my eyes. In my eyes that fight was a draw, but the UFC scoring system makes draws highly unlikely. Cruz legs only getting worse as his career goes on.
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                    • GoBlue77
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-20-11
                      • 9166

                      #815
                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                      Dillashaw up 3 rounds to 1, cruz needs a finish to win. This ticket is already cashed
                      cocky as ever. wrong again. enjoy that humble pie
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                      • JoshKnows46
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-27-12
                        • 3691

                        #816
                        Originally posted by Kermit
                        I don't know. Even after the fight when looking at their faces, it looked like TJ lost. Those pillow fists definitely touched TJ up a bit.
                        Cruz won 1 round of that fight
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                        • Kermit
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 09-27-10
                          • 32555

                          #817
                          Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                          Sending u 2 pts at a time jibs, that's all it let's me send.
                          You have to be a Pro to give more than 2. I think that you can lose them to him in a poker room though.
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                          • GunShard
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-05-10
                            • 10027

                            #818
                            Won on the Over 4.5 rounds. Easy bet.
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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83693

                              #819
                              Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                              I already sent u 2, look up, can't send more.
                              Thanks Josh for holding up to your end of the bargain.. Appreciate that.. It was a close fight and TJ could have easily got the decision win.. Don't sweat this loss bud...
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                              • Kermit
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-27-10
                                • 32555

                                #820
                                Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                Cruz won 1 round of that fight
                                No he didn't. You were watching it with a different set of glasses than I was.

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                                • Unwritten Law
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-31-13
                                  • 2532

                                  #821
                                  Overall, it really could've gone either way. Glad Cruz got the win, battled adversity and not sure how Faber feels....does TJ go back to TAM? He didn't fight emulating Cruz's style. He was throwing lots of air kicks and may have been the aggressor but Cruz also connected his fair share of strikes and takedowns.

                                  Bad on Bookmaker for slacking on the live bets. They were extremely slow live wagering in the NFL, and didn't even offer a single in-game fight.
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                                  • MoneyLineDawg
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                                    • 01-01-09
                                    • 13253

                                    #822
                                    Originally posted by Heyeverybody99
                                    Everybody here knows how bad of a decision that was. Everyone here who says that they had Cruz winning had money on that fight. He literally chased him the entire fight, while Cruz landed pillow fist shots. And then you also consider that TJ was the champ.....absolutely despicable.
                                    Pretty much how I saw this thing....I'm a casual MMA fan but when one judge gives it to Cruz 49-46 it makes me question how this thing works


                                    I hate decisions....they should fight till submission or TKO
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                                    • Thor4140
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                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 22296

                                      #823
                                      Originally posted by Heyeverybody99
                                      Everybody here knows how bad of a decision that was. Everyone here who says that they had Cruz winning had money on that fight. He literally chased him the entire fight, while Cruz landed pillow fist shots. And then you also consider that TJ was the champ.....absolutely despicable.
                                      If those useless takedowns counted for Alvarez than they should count for Cruz. If those damaging leg kicks didn't count for Larkin than they shouldn't count for Tj
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                                      • GigaOuts
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                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 527

                                        #824
                                        if there is no robbery in decision, you all be f*cking rich.
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                                        • GunShard
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                                          • 03-05-10
                                          • 10027

                                          #825
                                          Originally posted by GunShard
                                          Both Cruz and Dillashaw styles are the most defensive.
                                          I am considering betting on the Over 4.5 rounds.
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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83693

                                            #826
                                            There will be a rematch.. Zuffa struck gold with this event..
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                                            • yisman
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-01-08
                                              • 75682

                                              #827
                                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                              Pretty much how I saw this thing....I'm a casual MMA fan but when one judge gives it to Cruz 49-46 it makes me question how this thing works


                                              I hate decisions....they should fight till submission or TKO

                                              mma is full of bad decisions, just the way it is


                                              this doesn't go up as a robbery, I've seen many fights that were much worse in terms of a guy that had no business winning getting the decision

                                              this at least was pretty close although I would've given it to TJ


                                              I don't know how two judges came up with 49-46 as the score (and for different guys!)
                                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                              [/quote]

                                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                              • Thor4140
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                                                • 02-09-08
                                                • 22296

                                                #828
                                                Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                                cocky as ever. wrong again. enjoy that humble pie
                                                U miss the bragging post after the Alvarez fight?
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                                                • Sykes
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-23-12
                                                  • 2714

                                                  #829
                                                  fuk the rounds. Cruz got the better of him simple as. He did all fight you could see it. I bet Dilla. Alot on Dilla but Cruz done a job on him. IMO of course.
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                                                  • MoneyLineDawg
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-01-09
                                                    • 13253

                                                    #830
                                                    Originally posted by yisman
                                                    mma is full of bad decisions, just the way it is


                                                    this doesn't go up as a robbery, I've seen many fights that were much worse in terms of a guy that had no business winning getting the decision

                                                    this at least was pretty close although I would've given it to TJ


                                                    I don't know how two judges came up with 49-46 as the score (and for different guys!)
                                                    I don't think it was a robbery myself....Just as a casual unbiased fan I thought you should give the fight to the champ who clearly tried to win on the offensive and did more damage.....Not to mention how he finished the last 2 rounds strong and left Cruz hobbled

                                                    Tough break for the TJ backers. I like betting MMA props here and there but rarely take guys straight up to be left to the judges. I wouldn't be able to take losses like this
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83693

                                                      #831
                                                      Originally posted by Sykes
                                                      fuk the rounds. Cruz got the better of him simple as. He did all fight you could see it. I bet Dilla. Alot on Dilla but Cruz done a job on him. IMO of course.
                                                      That's an honest opinion since you were on Dill.. Respk!!
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                                                      • JoshKnows46
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-27-12
                                                        • 3691

                                                        #832
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        Thanks Josh for holding up to your end of the bargain.. Appreciate that.. It was a close fight and TJ could have easily got the decision win.. Don't sweat this loss bud...
                                                        Tough lose being so close, just another drop in the bucket, on to the next one. Rounds were much closer then I expected them to be, hell of a call on the split dec.
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                                                        • Heyeverybody99
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 04-25-15
                                                          • 584

                                                          #833
                                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                          If those useless takedowns counted for Alvarez than they should count for Cruz. If those damaging leg kicks didn't count for Larkin than they shouldn't count for Tj
                                                          You mean the fights where Alvarez and Tumenov were the clear aggressor?

                                                          The striking wasn't even close in this fight, but for the sake of argument, lets say it was.....then you still give it to TJ for being the CLEAR aggressor the entire fight, AND the fact that he's the champ. Aggression is a part of the scoring criteria.
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                                                          • Thor4140
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-09-08
                                                            • 22296

                                                            #834
                                                            Let me teach some of you idiots the scoring system in big bet main event fights for the tenth time. When u have a big bet fight the guy who is being bet heavy is not gonna get a decision. It is easy money to steal and u jackasses who think it is bad judjing will never win betting. What big bet fight did u ever see the guy with all the money on him win a decision?
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                                                            • GoBlue77
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-20-11
                                                              • 9166

                                                              #835
                                                              Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                              U miss the bragging post after the Alvarez fight?
                                                              and just like the condit fight lol.
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                                                              • MoneyLineDawg
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-01-09
                                                                • 13253

                                                                #836
                                                                Originally posted by Sykes
                                                                fuk the rounds. Cruz got the better of him simple as. He did all fight you could see it. I bet Dilla. Alot on Dilla but Cruz done a job on him. IMO of course.
                                                                Funny, I feel the complete opposite but with no bet

                                                                Makes you wonder how either judge had this thing 49-46 (and opposite sides lol)
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                                                                • shabang
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-23-13
                                                                  • 1814

                                                                  #837
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  There will be a rematch.. Zuffa struck gold with this event..
                                                                  like the new avatar..I think faber might get a shot now since they have unfinished business and they never fought on tuf.. TJ can't hype a fight if his life depended on it..let these 2 meet again in a year or two.
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                                                                  • FlipsideRM
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-28-11
                                                                    • 10518

                                                                    #838
                                                                    Fight was a complete toss up, however I think Cruz won by an inch.

                                                                    How either judge saw it 49-46 for either is beyond me and should be questioned regardless.
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 83693

                                                                      #839
                                                                      Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                                                      and just like the condit fight lol.
                                                                      Ah Josh just get's exited GoBlue.. Humble pie will come in time.. I was like Josh when I first came onto this forum, you guys remember. I backed my game though always.. He reminds me of me a couple of years ago..

                                                                      Gambling juices flow with big wins or losses.. You really wanna win and save face after hyping up a fight pick on the forums weeks in advance.. I understand..
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                                                                      • TPowell
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                                                                        • 02-21-08
                                                                        • 18842

                                                                        #840
                                                                        How in the penetrate does Cruz win round one? He did nothing and danced around the cage
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