UFC Fight Night: Condit Vs Kampmann 2 (August 28,2013)

[mirinquads]

I will give all of my picks & plays in a couple of days. However, I already have one large play on Tavares straight -400. I believe Thatch will be victorious as well.

-400? Disappointing performance from the chalk king.

Though I suppose it's the most chalk you can find on the card right now..

[MD]

Condit should be ashamed of himself if he loses to a guy with no chin and a fight IQ a tenth of his. Tough guy with a two cent brain. This isn't Alves Kampman is fighting.

0/10.

[plekz]

Until the Hendricks knockout, Kampmann was known for his great chin. You're just talking out of your ass.

He has no fight IQ? How did he beat Rick Story? lol just be quiet, dude.

I'm not backing Kampmann in this fight, but you don't know what you're talking about.

Kampmann definetly has low fight IQ, he's only 31 but with the amount of damage sustained in fights due to him not fighting intelligent his body is more that of a 35-36 year old. He also has really BAD tendencies standing where he walks bolted straight chin up, and when pressured instead of cutting angles he just moves backwards in a straight line.

Furthermore he completly FROZE in the Marquardt & Daley fights where he got backed up against the cage and instead of trying to circle out he just stood there and let them tee off until they put him out.

And NO Kampmann does NOT nor has he EVER had a great chin, GREAT recovery rate yes, but never ever ever ever ever ever has he had a great chin.

[Vaughany]

[Thor4140]

Until the Hendricks knockout, Kampmann was known for his great chin. You're just talking out of your ass.

He has no fight IQ? How did he beat Rick Story? lol just be quiet, dude.

I'm not backing Kampmann in this fight, but you don't know what you're talking about.

You guys with no fight IQ sure stick together. Rick Story also doesn't have the highest of fight IQ's. As for his chin. How many times do u need to see the guy get flatten in the first ten seconds to realize his chin is shitty? Yeah he recovers turtling up. These knockdowns are not the hardest of shots he takes.

[Thor4140]

Kampmann definetly has low fight IQ, he's only 31 but with the amount of damage sustained in fights due to him not fighting intelligent his body is more that of a 35-36 year old. He also has really BAD tendencies standing where he walks bolted straight chin up, and when pressured instead of cutting angles he just moves backwards in a straight line.

Furthermore he completly FROZE in the Marquardt & Daley fights where he got backed up against the cage and instead of trying to circle out he just stood there and let them tee off until they put him out.

And NO Kampmann does NOT nor has he EVER had a great chin, GREAT recovery rate yes, but never ever ever ever ever ever has he had a great chin.

Now we are starting to see the same things. even tho i thought he won the Shields fight it was easily his to win and he was doing all kinds of stuff for him to lose. He loses to Alves but he got luky cause Alves has an even worse fight IQ lol.

[Thor4140]

0/10.

[mmaed]

Kampman won the first fight by outwrestling Condit. Frankly I think he loses this one because he is going to have a really hard time doing that again. Condit hired an Olympic wrestler to help him learn wrestling after his loss to Johnny Hendricks. Couple that with the fact that he had back to back training camps + fights against wrestlers (Hendricks and GSP) and its safe to say Condits wrestling will be in peak form.

[plekz]

Yeah, thing has been in the past that eventhough Condit has done plenty wrestling drills the way you actually improve such things as technique when it comes to defense is by LIVE wrestling, the backside of this is that there isn't ANY other aspect of mma that is so injury prone as LIVE wrestling, and it's often really bad injurys aswell like ACL/MCL tears that happen during these sparring sessions.

[mmaed]

Yeah, thing has been in the past that eventhough Condit has done plenty wrestling drills the way you actually improve such things as technique when it comes to defense is by LIVE wrestling, the backside of this is that there isn't ANY other aspect of mma that is so injury prone as LIVE wrestling, and it's often really bad injurys aswell like ACL/MCL tears that happen during these sparring sessions.

Yeah I have heard that before. I wrestled in high school for a while but I never saw anyone get hurt. I always thought of wrestling as fairly safe. I get how it can happen though. Especially if your going hard and you don't have a lot of experience.

[plekz]

Yeah I have heard that before. I wrestled in high school for a while but I never saw anyone get hurt. I always thought of wrestling as fairly safe. I get how it can happen though. Especially if your going hard and you don't have a lot of experience.

Afaik pretty much every injury on TUF (throughout all seasons) have been grappling related incidents, iv'e done bjj for several years and also train mma, and every injury iv'e had sprained/broken toes hyperextended knee joints, popped knee and so forth have all been caused by live sparring grappling on the mma classes.

[Vaughany]

yep Condit brought in Jake Herbert (2 time NCAA Champ, and 2012 Olympian), and has also worked with Ricky Lundell. Just hope they haven't just been working on defending double-leg takedowns and singles because that's not Kampmann's style! Kampmann's all about body lock takedowns, and trips.

[plekz]

Brosif i'm so sure of Condit winning that if i'd put on hardest difficulty on UFC Undisputed picked Condit v Kampmann and then just let go of the DS controller Condit would still not get beat by Kampmann.

[BIGDAY]

Gotta love mid week fights!

[mmaed]

yep Condit brought in Jake Herbert (2 time NCAA Champ, and 2012 Olympian), and has also worked with Ricky Lundell. Just hope they haven't just been working on defending double-leg takedowns and singles because that's not Kampmann's style! Kampmann's all about body lock takedowns, and trips.

Yeah I am sure they will pick up on that. It's also how Kampmann beat him the first time.

[mmaed]

Brosif i'm so sure of Condit winning that if i'd put on hardest difficulty on UFC Undisputed picked Condit v Kampmann and then just let go of the DS controller Condit would still not get beat by Kampmann.

I can't tell if your joking or serious but I agree he should win. I think he will be in amazing shape for this fight and will come in with the cardio advantage. I also think he will have closed the gap in the wrestling department. I did take Kampmann by submission just incase he latches on another guillotine.

[plekz]

I can't tell if your joking or serious but I agree he should win. I think he will be in amazing shape for this fight and will come in with the cardio advantage. I also think he will have closed the gap in the wrestling department. I did take Kampmann by submission just incase he latches on another guillotine.

i think Kampmann wins a decision before he wins a sub, the guillotine he had wasn't very deep at all and he didn't control Condit either, Condit would have to make a HUGE general error for Kampmann to lock a blood choke on him and that's the only subs Kampmann seeks.

[Thor4140]

The only possibly way Kampman submits Condit is if he knocks him silly and Condit falls into a choke ala Kongo vs Mir. NObody is gonna submit Condit. Condit is in my top five of guys i love to watch fight.

[sideloaded]

Doesn't bring the juice down on both fighters, smartass (you're half a retard, actually.) What it does is bring down the amount of money you're risking.

You were looking for other forums so you can move on from here lol but you're the most active user here now

no one corrected him on this? SBR is going down the toilet.

[sideloaded]

and fuk you gabe, dont know why anyone tries to help you.

[PunisherIND]

no one corrected him on this? SBR is going down the toilet.

here are a couple of new recommendations:

adam martin: Andrews doesn’t have much value at -270 as a straight bet, but combine him with one, two, or three of the other favorites on the card and he suddenly holds value as a reliable parlay key.

gaberz: If you parlay Thatch -200 with my other recommended max bet Brad Tavares -460, you will cut the juice from -200 down to -121.

[mirinquads]

The only possibly way Kampman submits Condit is if he knocks him silly and Condit falls into a choke ala Kongo vs Mir. NObody is gonna submit Condit. Condit is in my top five of guys i love to watch fight.

Damn in your TOP FIVE? why didnt you say so, no way he's getting subbed then.

[sideloaded]

here are a couple of new recommendations:

adam martin: Andrews doesn’t have much value at -270 as a straight bet, but combine him with one, two, or three of the other favorites on the card and he suddenly holds value as a reliable parlay key.

gaberz: If you parlay Thatch -200 with my other recommended max bet Brad Tavares -460, you will cut the juice from -200 down to -121.

So he recommends info HE KNOWS for a FACT is wrong? Disgusting. I really just feel bad for Adam. He is probably just retarded.

[sideloaded]

gabe instead of being ignorant, you're knowingly spreading false information.

[Vaughany]

no one corrected him on this? SBR is going down the toilet.

lol because it's pointless, it's like trying to explain Pythagoras theorem to a kid with downs (and trust me I've tried!).

[Vaughany]

here are a couple of new recommendations:

adam martin: Andrews doesn’t have much value at -270 as a straight bet, but combine him with one, two, or three of the other favorites on the card and he suddenly holds value as a reliable parlay key.

gaberz: If you parlay Thatch -200 with my other recommended max bet Brad Tavares -460, you will cut the juice from -200 down to -121.

what is this real?! where did they write this nonsense?!

[Vaughany]

oh just seen it on the oddsbreaker site! ohmy indeed

[Beelzebubzy]

here are a couple of new recommendations:

adam martin: Andrews doesn’t have much value at -270 as a straight bet, but combine him with one, two, or three of the other favorites on the card and he suddenly holds value as a reliable parlay key.

gaberz: If you parlay Thatch -200 with my other recommended max bet Brad Tavares -460, you will cut the juice from -200 down to -121.

I'm on Tavares as well. Bittersweet if he loses.

[Vaughany]

haha

[Beelzebubzy]

Should I parlay Tavares with everything?

[Vaughany]

Should I parlay Tavares with everything?

yeah even when he gets to -800, just keep going...

[brokenbrain]

Picks:
Melancon - 1u
Perez - 2u
Condit/Kampmann does NOT goes the distance - 1u

Is it impolite not posting the terrible lines got for these plays?

[mirinquads]

^I like it.

I hope you got the Not the distance at plus money tho, else I wouldnt play that line

[MD]

Picks:
Melancon - 1u
Perez - 2u
Condit/Kampmann does NOT goes the distance - 1u

Is it impolite not posting the terrible lines got for these plays?

I like all of your plays, especially the first two. Probably some value on the third depending on the line you got.

You'll probably have a good night, me thinks.

[Thor4140]

Damn in your TOP FIVE? why didnt you say so, no way he's getting subbed then.

Exactly