Just Boxing

**Educ8d Degener8** · 06-29-13, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

Nearly ALL IN on GGG! 80% GGG by KO, TKO or DQ @ -433, 5% GGG wins in rounds 4-6 @ +240 & 5% GGG wins in rounds 7-9 @ +280! 10% of bank roll saved for UFC 162. After seeing MD's opinion of Golovkin saying that he is over valued and that there is value in GGG by decision @ +670...... The only thing I can say is that after the fight everyone will see the difference between a PRO at the top of his game and a couch potato wannabe. Take some notes kid. School is in session.

90% of your roll on one fight of boxing props, eh?

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-29-13, 10:50 PM

Holy shit, this Golovkin kid is a beast. I haven't seen a guy knock a guy out with a body shot and have the guy lay on the ground in pain for many minutes in a long, long, time. This guys has heavy hands, you see the bruises he was putting on Macklin on every punch. Wow.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 06-29-13, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by MD

Class Dismissed! You are the WEAKEST LINK.

MD · 06-29-13, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

Class Dismissed! You are the WEAKEST LINK.

Cashed a -433 line with 80% of your bankroll on it. I'm almost crying with laughter.

**goodfellas433** · 06-29-13, 11:09 PM

Didn't have a great night personally, lost 2 out of 3 fights.
But I think this kid is the real deal...I thought Macklin would survive longer than that so my props missed. Very impressive shot though..unreal,

**Crassus** · 06-30-13, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

Nearly ALL IN on GGG! 80% GGG by KO, TKO or DQ @ -433, 5% GGG wins in rounds 4-6 @ +240 & 5% GGG wins in rounds 7-9 @ +280! 10% of bank roll saved for UFC 162. After seeing MD's opinion of Golovkin saying that he is over valued and that there is value in GGG by decision @ +670...... The only thing I can say is that after the fight everyone will see the difference between a PRO at the top of his game and a couch potato wannabe. Take some notes kid. School is in session.

80% are you kidding me? i mean shit dude, congrats on the win but 80%?? That's nuts.

MD · 06-30-13, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Crassus

80% are you kidding me? i mean shit dude, congrats on the win but 80%?? That's nuts.

He went 1-2 risking a total of 90% of his bankroll and won just over 8% of his bankroll, and the only bet that cashed was -433. Then he bragged.

**Sacrelicious** · 06-30-13, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by MD

He went 1-2 risking a total of 90% of his bankroll and won just over 8% of his bankroll, and the only bet that cashed was -433. Then he bragged.

Realistically speaking, I need another image of someone projectile shating off a bridge to caption "crap post", I reckon.

One of the issues I'm encountering is my lack of willpower to find it in google image search.

I'm starting to consider a "grass roots" approach that involves a ton of Olde English and taking matters into my own hands.

**Grabaka** · 06-30-13, 01:27 PM

LOL OMG What a turd

**Grabaka** · 06-30-13, 01:31 PM

Win6/29/13 5:00pm Boxing Fighting 201 Anthony Crolla +250* vs Gavin Rees

Hassle free 4% BR and i won more....2% more!!!! lol

PRO on top of his game hahahaa humongous lol

**Sacrelicious** · 06-30-13, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Boxscout

Frankie Gavin over Denton Vassell. $2.00 to win $1.00. I haven't seen a ton of Vassell, but it certainly looks like Gavin should out class him. Vassell can make it ugly, and I'm particularly afraid of him getting away with lots of butts and fouls, but then again, Gavin is the cash cow here. I guess Hatton's behind Vassell, but Gavin's already close to serious money and, more to the point is easily the more proven and skilled man.

Tailed this at -200, thank you for the play, it becomes more evident with each fight that you know your boxing.

MD · 06-30-13, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Win6/29/13 5:00pm Boxing Fighting 201 Anthony Crolla +250* vs Gavin Rees

Hassle free 4% BR and i won more....2% more!!!! lol

PRO on top of his game hahahaa humongous lol

If he saw what I made on that Cain/Bigfoot card, where I was cashing +500 tickets over and over, I really think he'd kill himself, or at least re-evaluate his life.

The most up-their-own-ass guys are generally the worst gamblers, which is why we know Ron_Paul will fail in the long term. I'm a massive dick at times, but at least I'm humble about gambling and always open to suggestions.

**mirinquads** · 07-16-13, 09:55 AM

Tyson Fury +280 against Haye? I know hes a bad boxer and everything, but length and power gotta count for something, and his footwork has looked better lately. Not sure Haye can do what he did to old yeti Valujev, but im not boxing expert. Any opinions?

**Grabaka** · 07-16-13, 11:59 AM

That dude punches himself! Iagine if he KOs himself with his uppercut....i dont think i could forgive myself.
Not really liking it.

**mirinquads** · 07-16-13, 01:57 PM

He only punched him self because his opponent werent doing shit to him. He was bored brah

**brigade125** · 07-16-13, 02:06 PM

Tale of the tape

6'3"	Height	6'9''
78''	Reach	85''
32	Age	25
28	Fights	21
26	Wins	21
2	Defeats
24	KOs	15

DAVID HAYE.................................... ........TYSON FURY

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 07-16-13, 04:42 PM

Expect the "Hay Maker" to make some hay!

**hougigo** · 07-16-13, 06:12 PM

Tyson's a respectable play.... IMO, if he can survive Haye for the first 5 rounds, he stands a great chance of winning from then on

**Boxscout** · 07-21-13, 07:46 PM

Fury opened +350. Of course Haye should be favored, but that was ridiculous. It's probably due to British people having an unbelievable and only partially justified hard on for the guy.

Also, people made way too much of the Cunningham knockdown. You can believe me or not, but having bet on Fury i was terrified of that coming and half expected a knockout. But it said more about Fury's stupidity than chin. If you actually plant your feet, stick your chin out and let a guy like USS completely wind up and unload his best shot on you, you are going to go down. I guess no one told him that when you do that shit, you are supposed to move out of the way and counter. However, when not being willfully stupid, Fury is reasonably intelligent and he knew what to do with Cunningham once he had to. Peter will be in his corner and he won't take Haye so lightly.

Anyway, when these little narratives enter the public sphere, I think it's good to fade them when they so poorly thought out. You hear a lot of "knocked down by a cruiser, so Haye will get him effortlessly." That's poor logic bringing money to the other side.

**Boxscout** · 07-28-13, 10:01 AM

To my eye, Nathan Cleverly is a better boxer than Kovalev. He's almost certainly better conditioned and will throw more punches fighting at home. I'll take +120 on that. Yes, a Kovalev KO is a very real possibility and if that happens we'll lose. But it's not like they charge you more money if your guy gets KTFO in round 3.

$1.00 to win $1.20.

**Fistula** · 07-31-13, 07:18 PM

Cleverly is not a better boxer than Kovalev, sorry. You're way off if you think Kovalev is just the puncher in this fight. Kovalev throws the more compact punches, and more importantly has better balance, footwork, and mobility. He will close the distance while moving forward and outjab Cleverly for example. Kovalev doesn't overcommit to his punches so won't be too open to get hit, while Cleverly throws wider punches and squares up and can leave himself open when he punches. If Cleverly is more active that won't be an advantage against a guy with Kovalev's boxing skill and ability to throw well-timed punches. Cleverly being better conditioned is just groundless conjecture. Sure Cleverly has more experience going 12 rounds, but Kovalev had over 200 amateur fights, is now a seasoned, well-trained pro, and there's no reason we shouldn't expect him to be in top condition for the biggest fight of his career. I took Kovalev at -120 and I think that's a steal.

**hougigo** · 07-31-13, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Fistula

Cleverly is not a better boxer than Kovalev, sorry. You're way off if you think Kovalev is just the puncher in this fight. Kovalev throws the more compact punches, and more importantly has better balance, footwork, and mobility. He will close the distance while moving forward and outjab Cleverly for example. Kovalev doesn't overcommit to his punches so won't be too open to get hit, while Cleverly throws wider punches and squares up and can leave himself open when he punches. If Cleverly is more active that won't be an advantage against a guy with Kovalev's boxing skill and ability to throw well-timed punches. Cleverly being better conditioned is just groundless conjecture. Sure Cleverly has more experience going 12 rounds, but Kovalev had over 200 amateur fights, is now a seasoned, well-trained pro, and there's no reason we shouldn't expect him to be in top condition for the biggest fight of his career. I took Kovalev at -120 and I think that's a steal.

I agree with this. ALl I can say that Kovalev is being lumped in as another Jeff Lacy, a no skill guy that just punches and all he has is power.
All I'm saying is be careful in Whales.... but he should be fine

**Boxscout** · 08-01-13, 06:18 AM

We'll see, but let's not put words into my mouth. I said NC is almost certainly better conditioned. We know Clev is very well conditioned and has fine stamina, even for a world level pro. Maybe SK does too. I'm not saying for sure that he doesn't, but there's no particular reason to think so. I don't think Kov is just a puncher. He uses lots of feints and angles to set up well. He has nice selection. As I said, he could definitely use that stuff to get Cleverly too. But I do think Kov's style does best against weaker opponents who make mistakes. Wouldn't be shocked at all if he caught Clev, but it's not a given. Bellew, for example, had a very hard time landing a big punch on Clev. I don't think he ever did it with his initial punch. His best punch came at the end of a long sequence on the ropes, which isn't the sort of thing Kov is used to.

However, I disagree that he'll out-jab Clev. Clev has a clear advantage in experience, throws more punches and will be fighting at home where he is a solid moneymaker, with the potential to be a big moneymaker. It'll be hard for a nomad promoted by Main Events to get a break there. It's a really interesting fight. If I'm wrong, so be it. Got a good price, anyway. -105 now.

**Boxscout** · 08-11-13, 12:32 PM

I don't see how Manny gets better than -450. I put some on him ITD because the line on 5d was better than anywhere else, but why complicate things? He should be able to do what he wants with Rios. Everyone is focused on Manny "losing" 2 fights in a row, or the brutal KO. But let's not forget that Rios has been outboxed in 2 of 3. He has the raw power to KO Manny, I suppose, but I'm going to say that there's a bit of separation between Rios and Marquez in terms of the technical ability and timing needed to land a shot like that on a humming bird.

Additionally, I'm confident that Top Rank is confident that Manny wins here and they are smarter than I am. It's great match making. Rios will have, in reality, lost three of his last four but his profile will go up a bit anyway. Should be an easy night for Manny and he can be declared "back," even if he is in decline. They'll have a lot of options with him, all of which will generate lots of money. But not so much if he loses. They are certainly going for as little risk as they feel they can get away with here.

$7.00 @ -450 to win $1.55

Oh yeah, I posted another play in a different place similar to this place. I was going to post it here but either SBR was down or I just couldn't access it for some reason. The play lost. I very much doubt that anyone cares, but it's the internet. You never know when some super sleuth is going to come around trying to play gotcha.

**hougigo** · 08-11-13, 12:52 PM

I think it gets better as the fight gets closer... at least the ITD prop.

**Boxscout** · 08-13-13, 10:28 PM

We'll see with the Manny line. I've blown it big time with line movements before. But on the other hand, I'm really confident there's value now.

Geale Decision +105. It's frustrating that the overseas lines are so much better, but at least this little window opened up. It started at -120 which is close to right. Work rate, athleticism, accuracy, stamina. But nothing that catches the eye in a highlight reel. I love Danny Geale.

$1.00 to win $1.05

**hougigo** · 08-14-13, 02:52 AM

I don't know if you took Cleverly or Kovalev... but just found out the ref is Terry O'Connor

**Boxscout** · 08-14-13, 08:48 AM

Yeah, saw that. I took Clev. One reason is I expected officials to favor him, so that's nice. Still have to dodge Clev being flattened, but the over/under numbers favor it going the distance, so that's a good sign too.

**Boxscout** · 08-16-13, 04:09 AM

Just a boxrec pick. The favorite has a little KO run going, but he has 7 KOs in 49 wins and has never been stopped. Dog, has a TD loss, a DQ and KOs to JuanMa and PDLin 45 fights.

Saucedo/Medina ovr 9.5 -180

$1.80 to win $1,00

**Boxscout** · 09-13-13, 02:37 PM

Need to update my totals, but I think I'm down 50 cents lately. If only that were true in real life, where I kind of took a shot with Geale.

Anyway, $1.45 to win $1.00 on Floyd by 12 rd dec.

$2.10 to win back my $.50 on Molina and Smith to go over. That should probably be a bigger play, but I feel like chicken tonight. Molina is a decent favorite and has never knocked out anyone at remotely world level, and he is very awkward and Smith isn't a big puncher either.

**Boxscout** · 09-25-13, 06:27 PM

$.50 to win $1.20 on Cloud. I simply don't think these guys are all that far apart. Big advantage for Stevenson being in Montreal and as the more promotable guy, at least until it becomes more widely known exactly how disgusting his past is. But There's an overreaction here to recent performances on big TV events I think.

**Boxscout** · 12-02-13, 09:01 PM

Been really busy lately. However, I do have a couple bets this weekend. Partially because I capped Lara/Trout way back when. I'll add up my totals later, but won a bit recently.

Anyway, Trout Dec. +160 on 5d is the side I like and the price is very good. Was 170 a few minutes ago so, don't snooze if you agree. Lara likes to move forward and back and Trout likes to stand in range. I figure Trout appears the aggressor and has a good chance to win volume as well. Those two things will usually get you the decision.

$1.00 to win $1.60

Barker dec. Sturm +145 is also a decent price on a side I like. Barker just had the best fight of his life, by far, costing me dearly. Sturm looks to be on the way out. He's 34, he's made his money and he lost to Soliman, not to mention Geale. I think Hearn sees max reward/resume building and min risk in going after Sturm in Germany.

$1.00 to win $1.45.

EDIT: If my arithmetic is right, which it seldom is, we're at +$11.97