4 team parlay.

**sideloaded** · 12-23-12, 07:40 PM

It is interesting looking at Ronda's modified judo holds for mma.

Two Things.

1. This likely wouldnt be as effective on men because men dont wear rash guards/ sports bras. Giving Ronda even better traction for the throw/sweep.

2. She is already giving you 3/4's of her back. IF somehow the grip was lost even a novice grappler would have a easy time switching to the back mount.

**gabe** · 12-23-12, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

It is interesting looking at Ronda's modified judo holds for mma.

Two Things.

1. This likely wouldnt be as effective on men because men dont wear rash guards/ sports bras. Giving Ronda even better traction for the throw/sweep.

2. She is already giving you 3/4's of her back. IF somehow the grip was lost even a novice grappler would have a easy time switching to the back mount.

true, i've taken her back rather easily on multiple occasions, in multiple ways.

**sideloaded** · 12-23-12, 08:41 PM

so has dana

**Bradbatross** · 12-23-12, 08:57 PM

I have a parlay with Lombard and Belcher and one with Belcher and JDS. I'm getting a little worried about Belcher because he can get over confident at times and make careless mistakes like in the Akiyama fight.

**gabe** · 12-23-12, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

so has dana

LMAO @ dana's grin, just lmfao

**gabe** · 12-23-12, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

I have a parlay with Lombard and Belcher and one with Belcher and JDS. I'm getting a little worried about Belcher because he can get over confident at times and make careless mistakes like in the Akiyama fight.

Belcher does not make careless mistakes, sir. Only careful ones.

**Bradbatross** · 12-23-12, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Belcher does not make careless mistakes, sir. Only careful ones.

Well he pretty much gave the win to Akiyama.

**v1y** · 12-24-12, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

It is interesting looking at Ronda's modified judo holds for mma.

Two Things.

1. This likely wouldnt be as effective on men because men dont wear rash guards/ sports bras. Giving Ronda even better traction for the throw/sweep.

2. She is already giving you 3/4's of her back. IF somehow the grip was lost even a novice grappler would have a easy time switching to the back mount.

Dude... she jsut plays head and arm. It's exactly what dong hyun kim did to paulo thiago.

(although, kim did get his back taken by pierson and maia)

**Rubber Guard** · 12-24-12, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Crassus

I don't understand what the whole wrestling thing has to do with Glover vs Page. Glover will not take down Page. I disagree with you on the eliteness of Bader or Phil in MMA wrestling but so be it.

As for Pages boxing, you trash him for not finishing incredibly tough guys. Sure he didn't knock out Jardine but at that point, Jardines chin was solid. He didn't have the best but he still went to D with strikers like Vera, Chuck. Matt Hamill has been finished by two men, Gus when he was on something like a weeks notice and Rich Franklin (not exactly a striking slouch). Jardine fight was meh but Page did knock him down and hurt him a lot, and he DESTROYED Matt Hamill. Remember his face at the end? To say he SHOULD have finished Hamill is putting a lot down on him. He also rocked the hell out of Rashad in the third after a very tiring fight which should show his power.

Because you can't finish guys like Hamill, Bader (who he rocked in the first with the slam and was basically crippled), Machida, or Evans, you're suddenly a bad striker? Jardine is the only anomaly. At the same time, who has Glover finished that makes you think he'll finish someone like Page who hasn't even been rocked since the Rashad fight (from which he recovered incredibly well).

I'm not saying he is a bad striker. A bad striker would be someone like Jardine. A bad striker is Matt Hamill who is so bad it isn't even funny. A bad striker is Ryan Bader. Rampage is a solid striker for MMA, but at this point he is much slower than he used to be and less athletic. At this point he is doing it for a pay check with his eyes on different stuff. He has met a bunch of guys that aren't scary strikers. Tex isn't that technical, but he is diverse and is effective at what he does. Tex is a scary striker. Jardine, Bader, Hamill aren't even decent strikers....and defiantly not scary or aggressive. Rashad is ok I guess, but Rashad from my recollection got the better of most of the striking exchanges besides the one time he was clipped. They didn't do much striking, I may be wrong, but I remember Rashad looking more effective.

I mean sure if the Bones, Rampage comes out he has a better chance than I am giving him. But this isn't for a title shot, he has 1 fight left on his deal and said he doesn't have the best relationship with them anymore. I'm not banking on Rampage to look like he has once out of the last 4 or 5 fights and not sure why anyone else would. He has faded slowly over the years.

Perhaps I am just more convinced in Tex's skillset more than other here. At this point I see much of the top 10 beating Rampage. Bones, Rashad, Hendo, Machida, Shogun, Gustaf, Lil Nog, Mousasi, I see pretty much see all of those guys beating Page at this point. Plus Tex.

Bottom line is he has 4 KO wins in like the last 8 years. Against very KOable fighters. So I wouldn't expect him to KO Tex at this point of his career. I could see how people who still somewhat believe in Rampage could see value in that line. But I'm not one of those people.

**PunisherIND** · 12-29-12, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

so has dana

Sat 2/23		1025 Rousey wins in round 1		-350
11:00PM		1026 Any other result		+250

opened -280/+200

**Crassus** · 12-29-12, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

I mean sure if the Bones, Rampage comes out he has a better chance than I am giving him. But this isn't for a title shot, he has 1 fight left on his deal and said he doesn't have the best relationship with them anymore. I'm not banking on Rampage to look like he has once out of the last 4 or 5 fights and not sure why anyone else would. He has faded slowly over the years.

Perhaps I am just more convinced in Tex's skillset more than other here. At this point I see much of the top 10 beating Rampage. Bones, Rashad, Hendo, Machida, Shogun, Gustaf, Lil Nog, Mousasi, I see pretty much see all of those guys beating Page at this point. Plus Tex.

Bottom line is he has 4 KO wins in like the last 8 years. Against very KOable fighters. So I wouldn't expect him to KO Tex at this point of his career. I could see how people who still somewhat believe in Rampage could see value in that line. But I'm not one of those people.

I guess we just fundamentally disagree on those points. I don't think those guys were KO'able guys and while I've been largely impressed with glover, he's not blown my mind by beating Kyle Kingsbury and Fabio Maldonado (two guys who i'm pretty sure have been cut by the UFC/retired but would have been cut if they hadn't.) and I just don't think he's ready for a guy like Rampage yet.

**Bradbatross** · 12-29-12, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Crassus

I guess we just fundamentally disagree on those points. I don't think those guys were KO'able guys and while I've been largely impressed with glover, he's not blown my mind by beating Kyle Kingsbury and Fabio Maldonado (two guys who i'm pretty sure have been cut by the UFC/retired but would have been cut if they hadn't.) and I just don't think he's ready for a guy like Rampage yet.

Moldonado definitely wont be cut.