no one knows what this thing that circulating about ariel helwani? irritating hearing the topic being talked about without knowing what the deal is.
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bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
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PunisherINDSBR MVP
- 02-24-11
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#2383
Outside of his usual stint over at MMAFighting.com, UFC on FOX correspondent Ariel Helwani was absent from his UFC on FOX duties last weekend. Prior to his disappearance, word hit me (from a reliable source) that he was in a spat with UFC officials and removed from his broadcasting duties.
While I do have it on good authority that something is amiss, right now this entire story is just speculation and rumor.
What I’ve come up with, after digging in my heels, is a timeline. Nothing concrete enough, mind you, for me to feel 100% comfortable with reporting this as fact… so take it all with a tiny grain of salt:
- Ariel Helwani Covers Bellator Open workouts in New York (could this have been the issue?)
- Dana White, UFC and Lorenzo Fertitta stop following Helwani on Twitter
- Ariel announces he wasn’t invited to Dana White’s media scrum
- Ariel not present during UFC Weigh-ins, tweets cryptic message about his lack of access
- Ariel not present in FOX broadcast during fight night, does post-fight interviews from back room
Now, it should be noted that despite all of these events, UFC President Dana White took to twitter and told his followers that nothing happened between the UFC and Helwani.
So… has Helwani been forced out of his prominent role with the UFC? Or are all these strange and unusual events just a coincidence? Only Helwani and the UFC big wigs know for sure, I suppose.
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MDSBR Hall of Famer
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bjpenn85SBR Hall of Famer
- 02-17-11
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#2385Spanks. God knows what Dana White can do.Comment -
pureprodigySBR Hustler
- 12-21-12
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#2386What's your reasoning for being so confident in Trujillo? Fight seems like more of a coin flip to me...
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pureprodigySBR Hustler
- 12-21-12
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#2387I'm liking bag by decisionComment -
pureprodigySBR Hustler
- 12-21-12
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#2388So he made one right pick that he was about 20 seconds away from likely being wrong as pettis likely would of got the decision as he is the bigger hyped fighter... Ill start dropping picks for every fight on the card !!! Now that takes ballsComment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-31-12
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#2389
As for Trujillo, I think he's a lot sharper with a lot more upside. He's more prepared for Varner's game than Varner is for his. It's a competitive fight, and Varner can certainly win, but I think that Trujillo should be favoured.Comment -
mmaedSBR MVP
- 11-25-11
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#2390Faber vs Barao:
Going to have to side with Barao in this one. As good as Faber has looked he lost a five round unanimous decision to Barao about a year ago. I'm sure he has improved since then but then again Barao has likely improved as well. I think Faber is getting so much credit for his four fight win streak but if you look at it you don't really see anything that demonstrates huge improvement in his game. He basically outgrappled Menjivar and Alcantara. That's the norm for him, nothing new there. He beat Jorgensen on the feet but frankly not by very much in my opinion. I could be misremembering that one but I don't recall him doing anything that impressive standing. That's the fight that makes me want to bet on Barao. It wasn't until Jorgensen basically gassed in round four that Faber was able to get him down and choke him out. Versus Mcdonald he looked good standing but that could be in part to Mcdonald being taken down in round one and being afraid to engage standing. In addition I think it was really just one shot that landed on Mcdonald standing that made the difference. I think Barao is still on a whole other level standing and his grappling could very well be better than Fabers. At least good enough that if Faber gets him down he will be safe and have a decent shot at getting back to his feet.
Aldo/ Lamas:
I don't see Lamas having the striking to get inside on Aldo. I'm not going to go into this one too much because I think we all probably figure Aldo wins it.
Reem/Mir:
I think this fight is Reems to lose so most likely that means he loses. I like the fact that he has decided to drop some weight to improve his cardio. That should help him against Mir. I don't like the fact that he mentioned in an interview that he might grapple with Mir. I know Reem is a competent grappler but Mir can obviously catch him and it seems like a pointless risk to take. Standing he is miles ahead of Mir.
Cariaso/Martinez:
Martinez is a better wrestler than Cariaso and probably a little bigger. His striking is somewhat rudimentary and I think his jiu jitsu is probably not very good though its sort of hard to evaluate. I only have two fights to go by. One against Jussier de Formiga and the other against Davey Grant. Formiga is so good at Jiu jitsu its hard to really knock Martinez for being outgrappled but its worth noting he did lose the wrestling against him. Cariaso did as well so theres not much to take from that. Martinez did tapped out by Davey Grant after a very long struggle to get a takedown against him that spanned almost two rounds. Grant doesn't have a wrestling background but he is a big strong guy in comparison to Cariaso. This fight is really tough to tell in my opinion. I think Cariaso should win the standup and be hard to hold down due to his guard being very active. Martinez doesn't seem to be a very good fighter overall but he might be good enough to hold Cariaso down. It might come down to what kind of ref the fight has and how they feel about stand ups. Tough call. I wanted to bet Cariaso but the lay and pray potential scares me.
I would appreciate any insight on Danny Martinez and Cariaso.Comment -
mmaedSBR MVP
- 11-25-11
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#2391No no, that was back when Caceres fought Figueroa. He lost that play, and a bunch of other "locks", so he started a new account. And another one, and another one, and another one. He's persistent at least.
As for Trujillo, I think he's a lot sharper with a lot more upside. He's more prepared for Varner's game than Varner is for his. It's a competitive fight, and Varner can certainly win, but I think that Trujillo should be favoured.Comment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-31-12
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#2392I wouldn't count too highly on Ali's hand speed here. Lineker should have somewhat of an advantage on the feet, I think. It's close, but I think Lineker is better and more diverse with his hands. Massive grappling edge to Bagautinov, though.
Bagautinov line just got taken down, by the way.Comment -
mmaedSBR MVP
- 11-25-11
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#2393What do you think about martinez vs cariaso?Comment -
fitguy67SBR Hall of Famer
- 03-13-11
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#23942 dreadful (takedown counting) excuses for judging thus far...Watson and especially Makdessi hosed badlyComment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-31-12
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#2396Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
Lost this thread play. +10u on my Twitter plays, unfortunately Makdessi is one of the ones that missed.Should have been a bigger night, but hey, I had some variance in my favour, also.
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fitguy67SBR Hall of Famer
- 03-13-11
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#2397http://forum.sbrforum.com/boxing-mma...ssi-145-a.html
Lost this thread play. +10u on my Twitter plays, unfortunately Makdessi is one of the ones that missed.Should have been a bigger night, but hey, I had some variance in my favour, also.
module 3, part 2: cultivating even-temperedness by re-discovering "the power of the euphemism"
old self says" "my bet on Makdessi got fukked by shit-judging"
new self says: "...unfortunately Madkessi is one i missed"
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BTW, it is the right attitude to cultivate (and expensive appliances around you last MUCH longer when u adopt it!)
Thanks a lot, pal: I tailed all your twitter plays.
Barao is an unbelievably-explosive beast.Last edited by fitguy67; 02-02-14, 03:41 PM.Comment -
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#2399Probably won't be posting much for a while, just a heads up incase anyone asks me a question or something. I'll post my plays tomorrow, and possibly for the next card if I decide to 'cap it, though.Comment -
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- 01-31-12
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#2400Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
^ Lost this thread play, lost around 6.5u on my twitter plays. Not a big losing night, but it was compounded by how awful the card was. Anyway, yeah, probably won't be around as much for a while, got a lot going on. Should be here during fight nights, though, since I'll be live betting them. Can't resist spamming up the event thread.Comment -
marzwoodySBR MVP
- 01-03-14
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goodfellas433SBR Sharp
- 07-16-12
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#2402Hope all is well with you, always enjoyed reading your analysis and opinionsComment -
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- 01-31-12
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#2403I hate leaving money on the table, gotta scoop up dat EV. I'll still sign in when I can, just may not be able to find the time to post. You can always shoot me a PM or a tweet or something if you want my opinion on a fight, for whatever it's worth.
On the plus side, I'm posting this at a reasonable hour for once. Normally I'm awake from midday until early morning like a true Gabe-style degen, but I can't sleep. Might download True Detective and marathon that or something, I've heard it's amazing.Last edited by MD; 02-16-14, 08:35 AM.Comment -
raagSBR Hustler
- 05-18-13
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#2404Good luck mateComment -
goodfellas433SBR Sharp
- 07-16-12
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#2405Ok, stop by when you can. I need to start analyzing this next card. I just hooked my female coworker on MMA betting in one play. I had her place 100 on a 3 teamer of alcantara, oliveira and Souza and it hit. She acted like she won the lottery, absolutely bonkers lolComment -
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- 01-31-12
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#2406In no means are we saying in any way that Gegard Mousasi did enough to beat Lyoto Machida at UFC Fight Night 36, but we are saying that if this were a
Thought I'd post this here. I'm pretty much the only guy here who thinks Mousasi edged it, but Fightmetric stats are ridiculously misleading and often inaccurate. I would be extremely surprised if the actual numbers were anything close to those; Machida's clearest rounds were so much more dominant than the close rounds that I would expect him to have built a reasonable edge in significant strikes overall. I don't have a problem with anything from 48-47 Mousasi to 49-46 Machida, but as a complete fight, Machida definitely did more.Comment -
Dwil125SBR MVP
- 11-08-12
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#2407I still gave it to Machida 48-47, I have to rewatch but Mousasi was close stealing round 5 but he couldn't finish his takedown. The decision prop at 7 to 1 on Mousasi had to be the right side.Comment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
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#2408http://middleeasy.com/fighting/item/...fight-night-36
Thought I'd post this here. I'm pretty much the only guy here who thinks Mousasi edged it, but Fightmetric stats are ridiculously misleading and often inaccurate. I would be extremely surprised if the actual numbers were anything close to those; Machida's clearest rounds were so much more dominant than the close rounds that I would expect him to have built a reasonable edge in significant strikes overall. I don't have a problem with anything from 48-47 Mousasi to 49-46 Machida, but as a complete fight, Machida definitely did more.Comment -
rosietopSBR High Roller
- 09-08-13
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#2409Ok, stop by when you can. I need to start analyzing this next card. I just hooked my female coworker on MMA betting in one play. I had her place 100 on a 3 teamer of alcantara, oliveira and Souza and it hit. She acted like she won the lottery, absolutely bonkers lol
not a good move introducing people to gambling since only %1 of gamblers are long term winners.Comment -
goodfellas433SBR Sharp
- 07-16-12
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#2411[QUOTE=rosietop;21180206]yeah and did you tell her the alcantara fight was bs?
Nah, I just told her the basic rules of UFC Brazil betting. #1 if the fight might be close make sure you are on the Brazilian. #2 if it is two Brazilians fighting, pick the more popular Brazilian. #3 when 1 and 2 fail hope for a little luck. Take luck over talent any day of the week. (Talent being good capping, in this case.)Last edited by goodfellas433; 02-17-14, 07:43 PM.Comment -
rosietopSBR High Roller
- 09-08-13
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#2412goodfella I wasent trying to have a go at you. Im actually trying to help you, its common knowledge that casinos and bookies hook people to gambling by letting them win a little at first, and the natural human instinct of greed takes over and before you know it they have turned into degenerate gamblers waiting and waiting for that one big pay day that never comes. Im happy the girl won money betting (any day David beats Goliath is a good day in my opinion) but dont think you are doing her or anyone else any good by getting them hooked to gambling. The majority of cappers are losers if they weren't how do you think bookies and casinos exist?Comment -
goodfellas433SBR Sharp
- 07-16-12
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#2413No worries rosietop, I'm not one of the easily offended sbr members...you are 100% correct, trust me I know they dont build beautiful casinos by giving away money. It gave me someone to text with and she took an interest in the sport because of the bet she made. Your point is well taken
though
Since you seem to be the only one checking in tonight, what are your 3 fav plays on the upcoming card? Quite the decent price on the champ, no?Comment -
rosietopSBR High Roller
- 09-08-13
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#2414No worries rosietop, I'm not one of the easily offended sbr members...you are 100% correct, trust me I know they dont build beautiful casinos by giving away money. It gave me someone to text with and she took an interest in the sport because of the bet she made. Your point is well taken
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Since you seem to be the only one checking in tonight, what are your 3 fav plays on the upcoming card? Quite the decent price on the champ, no?Comment -
TheCalculatorSBR MVP
- 10-10-11
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#2415http://middleeasy.com/fighting/item/...fight-night-36
Thought I'd post this here. I'm pretty much the only guy here who thinks Mousasi edged it, but Fightmetric stats are ridiculously misleading and often inaccurate. I would be extremely surprised if the actual numbers were anything close to those; Machida's clearest rounds were so much more dominant than the close rounds that I would expect him to have built a reasonable edge in significant strikes overall. I don't have a problem with anything from 48-47 Mousasi to 49-46 Machida, but as a complete fight, Machida definitely did more.Comment
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