UFC 154: St-Pierre Vs Condit(Nov 17th, 2012)

[Mr Handicapable]

I don't mind being against the public ever. Best of luck with your wager.

I'd love to see frenchie's boring a$$ get laid out but it'll never happen. GSP is too tentative....he fights on fight night at 190+ but he won't fight at 185. He's a great athlete but thats lame as hell. Anderson Silva fights guy like Bonnar that outweigh him by 15 pounds or more on fight night but GSP always wants the deck stacked in his favor.

[JamesKim]

Well Stephan Bonnar isn't exactly anywhere near the caliber of Silva. GSP can easily move up and beat a middle ranked middleweight. Silva destroys GSP though, and I think GSP knows this.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

really needed Stout to pull through tonight, but otherwise it was a decent card

[Mr Handicapable]

Well Stephan Bonnar isn't exactly anywhere near the caliber of Silva. GSP can easily move up and beat a middle ranked middleweight. Silva destroys GSP though, and I think GSP knows this.

My point is Silva will fight much bigger guys and GSP won't. GSP can stay mayor of frenchietown which is prob worth a ton of money so he won't risk his rep vs Spider

[Mr Handicapable]

I didn't bet the fights but Kampmann and Condit are 2 of my faves....really $hit strategy for both of them tonite imo. Hendricks came in pawing with the right....MK should've known to throw a knee or circle left to get away from the obvious left that was following. He is a notorious slow starter though...was afraid that would happen.
Condit needed to come out pushing forward and attacking too...not let GSP shake off the rust at his own leisure like that.

[MD]

My point is Silva will fight much bigger guys and GSP won't. GSP can stay mayor of frenchietown which is prob worth a ton of money so he won't risk his rep vs Spider

In terms of resumé, Georges St-Pierre is the most accomplished fighter ever to compete in the sport. In his last six fights, he's utterly dominated four top ten pound-for-pound fighters, and two top ten welterweights, one of whom was top five. Moving up in weight to fight bigger cans isn't as impressive as beating supremely skilled fighters of your own size, I'd say.

[Imsmarterthanu]

gsp is too small for anderson silva frame wise it's just not fair it's like asking frankie edgar to fight gsp and calling it fair

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

man GSP's face is busted up, check out the press conf.

[MD]

gsp is too small for anderson silva frame wise it's just not fair it's like asking frankie edgar to fight gsp and calling it fair

Georges St-Pierre is a welterweight who could have made lightweight before he put on his recent muscle, Anderson Silva is a middleweight who could make welterweight. Edgar is a lightweight who could make bantamweight. On a side note, Jones is a lightheavyweight who probably couldn't even make 200 lbs. I think there's weight classes for a reason, I agree with you there, but I think people saying that GSP is too small for Silva so Silva should fight Jones, who is closer in weight, are idiots (you didn't say that, I know, this isn't aimed at you).

[sportsfanatic]

gsp is too small for anderson silva frame wise it's just not fair it's like asking frankie edgar to fight gsp and calling it fair

or penn to fight gsp

[TheCalculator]

Made some money but I'm pissed about 2 things:

1. I maxed out the live line on Lawlor at +500.
That call was pure bull shit. Add slansky bucks to the total.

2. I tried on 2 browsers to bet Garza by decision at +800 in the first round.
BETDSI was really acting up and I had to switch browsers. The shit just
came back in round 2 after the take down. More fawkin' slansky bucks.

So far:

Griggs - LOST (have to say I was shocked)
Maguire - LOST (Underrated Riddle -- overrated Maguire for the 2nd time in a row)
Carmont by decision +300 BETDSI -- WIN (didn't see him finishing Lawlor -- he should of lost though)
Garza -- WIN -- Hominick's spirit has been broken for awhile
Hendricks -- WIN

[sportsfanatic]

all the champs are really big for their weight class except for dos santos.

[PunisherIND]

Makdessi +300 was way off

who was it that said 'dont waste your money'? lol

[PunisherIND]

lol griggs, got rnc' by diabate ... glad I didn't fall into the griggs trap, was tempted to hit him at dog odds.

griggs needs to train with a bigger rooster next time

[illmatick]

Matt Riddle	$465.00	-155		W	300.00
Rafael Dos Anjos	$147.50	-148		W	100.00
Alessio Sakara	$150.00	225		L	-150.00
Cyrille Diabate	$60.00	-120		W	50.00
Steven Siler	$50.00	105		L	-50.00
Azamat Gashimov	$50.00	240		L	-50.00
Siler + Garza	$50.00	587		L	-50.00
Siler + RDA vs Bocek Dec	$50.00	174		L	-50.00
Obama + Johny Hendricks ITD	$100.00	377		W	377.27
Marcin Held	$250.00	151		W	377.50
Douche Neace	$18.22	1,200		L	-18.22
Menjivar + Diabate ITD	$25.00	171		W	42.79
Ivan Menjivar	$107.50	-215		W	50.00
Sam Stout	$200.00	-200		L	-200.00
Stout vs Makdessi Dec	$100.00	-250		W	40.00
Pablo Garza	$200.00	220		W	440.00
RDA Dec	$100.00	200		W	200.00
RDA KO	$50.00	500		L	-50.00
Francois Carmont Dec	$60.00	264		W	158.40
Francois Carmont Dec	$200.00	200		W	400.00
Tom Lawlor Dec	$300.00	100		L	-300.00
GSP -5.5	$200.00	-200		W	100.00
Condit KO	$125.00	800		L	-125.00
Condit Split	$20.00	3,430		L	-20.00
GSP KO	$100.00	400		L	-100.00
Garza By KO	$89.14	800		L	-89.14
Johny Hendricks ITD	$100.00	295		W	295.00
Pablo Garza	$50.00	300		W	150.00
Carmont Sub + Costas KO	$12.00	900		L	-12.00
Frosch KO + Bellew KO	$120.00	-150		L	-120.00

+$1696.6

nice hit on Garza. I almost bit.

[JamesKim]

all the champs are really big for their weight class. gsp, silva, jones. dos santos and edgar are the exception.

That's like half the weight classes -.-

[PunisherIND]

Playin Garza +220 live-in-play...this should be closer to +150 I think

i couldnt believe my eyes fellas. i caught garza at +320 after round 1. i take it you guys were talking about after rd 1 also?

[JamesKim]

i couldnt believe my eyes fellas. i caught garza at +320 after round 1. i take it you guys were talking about after rd 1 also?

I managed to get both Garza and Hominick at same odds +290. I wish I would've laid more money on it in hindsight.

[sportsfanatic]

That's like half the weight classes -.-

actually edgar isn't champ anymore. henderson and aldo also a pretty big for their weight class. so pretty much only dos santos of all the champs.

[sideloaded]

well thats just like your opinion man

[MD]

In terms of weight, and not reach and height:

Dos Santos: Roughly average.
Jones: Huge.
Silva: Possibly above average, not huge.
St-Pierre: Possibly above average, not huge (tonight, he was massive however, he looks to have put on quite a bit of muscle)
Henderson: Really big, although most of the top lightweights cut, on average and proportionately, significantly more weight than fighters in other division (by my estimation), so it's slightly mitigated.
Aldo: Has a pretty tough cut at times, but when he's in good health, it rarely affects him. He's rarely much bigger than anyone he fights.
Cruz: Again, his cut can be tough at times, but his unbelievable cardio is a testament to how well he handles it and how properly sized he is for the division.
Johnson: Ditto on Cruz.

Jones is the only champion who consistently out-weighs his opponents by a large margin on fight night. Henderson has, also, but that's more due to being matched up with the division's smaller fighters recently.

[PunisherIND]

so f'in close!!!

$0.82	$177.38		Loss	11 Team Parlay
									Win	11/17/12 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1301 Rafael dos Anjos -150* vs Mark Bocek
									Win	11/17/12 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1852 Antonio Carvalho -290* vs Rodrigo Damm
									Win	11/17/12 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1951 Ivan Menjivar -280* vs Azamat Gashimov
									Win	11/17/12 11:59pm Props Fighting 1063 Condit points handicap +14½ -215* vs St-Pierre points handicap
									Win	11/17/12 11:30pm Props Fighting 1129 Hendricks wins by TKO/KO +315* vs Any other result
									Loss	11/17/12 11:00pm Props Fighting 1209 Carmont wins inside distance -118* vs Not Carmont inside distance
									Cancelled	11/17/12 10:30pm Props Fighting 1303 Ring/Philippou goes 3 round distance -155* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance
									Win	11/17/12 10:00pm Props Fighting 1437 Garza/Hominick starts round 2 -270* vs Fight won't start round 2
									Win	11/17/12 9:30pm Props Fighting 1504 Fight won't go 3 round distance -245* vs Sakara/Cote goes 3 round distance
									Win	11/17/12 9:00pm Props Fighting 1604 Fight won't go 3 round distance -280* vs Griggs/Diabate goes 3 round distance
									Win	11/17/12 8:00pm Props Fighting 1803 Makdessi/Stout goes 3 round distance -210* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance

[sportsfanatic]

man GSP's face is busted up, check out the press conf.

yeah. he sort of looks like mark hominick after the aldo fight.

[sportsfanatic]

so f'in close!!!

$0.82	$177.38		Loss	11 Team Parlay
									Win	11/17/12 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1301 Rafael dos Anjos -150* vs Mark Bocek
									Win	11/17/12 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1852 Antonio Carvalho -290* vs Rodrigo Damm
									Win	11/17/12 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1951 Ivan Menjivar -280* vs Azamat Gashimov
									Win	11/17/12 11:59pm Props Fighting 1063 Condit points handicap +14½ -215* vs St-Pierre points handicap
									Win	11/17/12 11:30pm Props Fighting 1129 Hendricks wins by TKO/KO +315* vs Any other result
									Loss	11/17/12 11:00pm Props Fighting 1209 Carmont wins inside distance -118* vs Not Carmont inside distance
									Cancelled	11/17/12 10:30pm Props Fighting 1303 Ring/Philippou goes 3 round distance -155* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance
									Win	11/17/12 10:00pm Props Fighting 1437 Garza/Hominick starts round 2 -270* vs Fight won't start round 2
									Win	11/17/12 9:30pm Props Fighting 1504 Fight won't go 3 round distance -245* vs Sakara/Cote goes 3 round distance
									Win	11/17/12 9:00pm Props Fighting 1604 Fight won't go 3 round distance -280* vs Griggs/Diabate goes 3 round distance
									Win	11/17/12 8:00pm Props Fighting 1803 Makdessi/Stout goes 3 round distance -210* vs Fight won't go 3 round distance

wow. tough loss.

[Vaughany]

i couldnt believe my eyes fellas. i caught garza at +320 after round 1. i take it you guys were talking about after rd 1 also?

yeah jus after round 1, I tried to get it at +320 but guess punks like u wer pounding it as well so it changed down to +220

Craziest was Garza by decision at +800 during round 2! Tried to pound it but I tried to bet too much, put in £100 so then it came up sayin limit is £76 or something, so then by time I'd re-entered it froze and changed

[Vaughany]

Made some money but I'm pissed about 2 things:

1. I maxed out the live line on Lawlor at +500.
That call was pure bull shit. Add slansky bucks to the total.

2. I tried on 2 browsers to bet Garza by decision at +800 in the first round.
BETDSI was really acting up and I had to switch browsers. The shit just
came back in round 2 after the take down. More fawkin' slansky bucks.

yeah same thing with me on Garza by decision at +800, I guess everybody was tryin to play it and might of froze the system or something?!

[Vaughany]

yeah. he sort of looks like mark hominick after the aldo fight.

Yeah check out his face in this interview...bruising is crazy

[Vaughany]

Matt Riddle	$465.00	-155		W	300.00
Rafael Dos Anjos	$147.50	-148		W	100.00
Alessio Sakara	$150.00	225		L	-150.00
Cyrille Diabate	$60.00	-120		W	50.00
Steven Siler	$50.00	105		L	-50.00
Azamat Gashimov	$50.00	240		L	-50.00
Siler + Garza	$50.00	587		L	-50.00
Siler + RDA vs Bocek Dec	$50.00	174		L	-50.00
Obama + Johny Hendricks ITD	$100.00	377		W	377.27
Marcin Held	$250.00	151		W	377.50
Douche Neace	$18.22	1,200		L	-18.22
Menjivar + Diabate ITD	$25.00	171		W	42.79
Ivan Menjivar	$107.50	-215		W	50.00
Sam Stout	$200.00	-200		L	-200.00
Stout vs Makdessi Dec	$100.00	-250		W	40.00
Pablo Garza	$200.00	220		W	440.00
RDA Dec	$100.00	200		W	200.00
RDA KO	$50.00	500		L	-50.00
Francois Carmont Dec	$60.00	264		W	158.40
Francois Carmont Dec	$200.00	200		W	400.00
Tom Lawlor Dec	$300.00	100		L	-300.00
GSP -5.5	$200.00	-200		W	100.00
Condit KO	$125.00	800		L	-125.00
Condit Split	$20.00	3,430		L	-20.00
GSP KO	$100.00	400		L	-100.00
Garza By KO	$89.14	800		L	-89.14
Johny Hendricks ITD	$100.00	295		W	295.00
Pablo Garza	$50.00	300		W	150.00
Carmont Sub + Costas KO	$12.00	900		L	-12.00
Frosch KO + Bellew KO	$120.00	-150		L	-120.00

+$1696.6

Great work again bro

[Vaughany]

lol just noticed this on wikipedia!....

Kampmann faced Johny Hendricks on November 17, 2012 at UFC 154 in a UFC welterweight title eliminator bout.^[18] He lost the fight via knockout in the first round. Doctors discovered that Kampmann had defecated whilst unconscious.

[pongo7890]

lol just noticed this on wikipedia!....

Kampmann faced Johny Hendricks on November 17, 2012 at UFC 154 in a UFC welterweight title eliminator bout.^[18] He lost the fight via knockout in the first round. Doctors discovered that Kampmann had defecated whilst unconscious.

Its a troll some guy keeps doing tha when people get KTFO

[Vaughany]

Its a troll some guy keeps doing tha when people get KTFO

ha yes I figured it was a troll!

[PunisherIND]

yeah jus after round 1, I tried to get it at +320 but guess punks like u wer pounding it as well so it changed down to +220

Craziest was Garza by decision at +800 during round 2! Tried to pound it but I tried to bet too much, put in £100 so then it came up sayin limit is £76 or something, so then by time I'd re-entered it froze and changed

lol, man, i really need to get on bookmaker. i need that full slate of live betting options!

[Rubber Guard]

gsp is too small for anderson silva frame wise it's just not fair it's like asking frankie edgar to fight gsp and calling it fair

GSP built his whole focking name on beating small fighters.

BJ Penn TWICE. Matt Serra and his T-rex arms should have always been at 155. TWICE. Sean Sherk is a midget even at 155.

Give me a break. But those fights are ok. But a fight in which Anderson would actually MOVE WEIGHT and meet somewhere in the middle isn't.

Give me a focking break.

[Rubber Guard]

GSP by UD -115 for 4 units.

GSP, Carmont, Hominick for 3 units.

My only plays. And I said I wouldn't play Hominick. Rats.

Hominick is a f\*g.

[Judgejoebrwn]

I don't really understand the hype behind Hendricks. He lost to Rick Story unanimously, got a lucky punch on Fitch, went to SPLIT decision wins over Pierce and Koscheck, and KO'd Kampmann because Kampmann decided to neglect Hendricks' primary weapon. And yet he's cemented himself as #1 contender? Why is nobody mentioning MacDonald and the fact that Hendricks would get dominated by him? I'd like to see that fight first while GSP fights Silva and if Hendricks can pull that out, THEN he deserves a title shot. Then (provided Hendricks wins), we get Hendricks vs. GSP and Silva vs. Jones in late 2013.