UFC 154: St-Pierre Vs Condit(Nov 17th, 2012)

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  • JamesKim
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    #631
    Silva is a better striker who is also bigger. I also think he has better TDD. GSP won't take the Silva fight, no way in hell. He knows he can't win that fight. If GSP thought Condit's kicks hurt, wait til he eats a few of Anderson's.
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    • sideloaded
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      #632
      whutchu kno 'bout dat der bigg rigg

      he'll steal your soul
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      • BIGDAY
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        #633
        Can't wait to pound Hendrick via KO/TKO +890 vs GSP

        WoooHoooooooooo!!!!!
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        • sportsfanatic
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          #634
          diaz hasn't really faced any good wrestlers in a while. i'd like to test him first against hendricks, fitch, or koscheck.
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          • JamesKim
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            #635
            Originally posted by Thor4140
            Amazing how the best possible ref for GSP was right there to do this fight. No threats of a standup in this one with that douche. Good thing Condit worked from the bottom or it might have been one of the worst fights in Welterweight history. After watching Carmont win i was surprised Condit got a round on one of the cards. Round three he almost puts GSP lights out but GSP gets a takedown and does absolutely nothing with it for over three minutes but eat punches, and somehow wins it on two judges cards
            Condit would've had a better chance if he just tried to hold GSP down completely and force a stand up.
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            • JoshKnows46
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              #636
              Originally posted by Thor4140
              How about Hendrix vs Diaz. If he wins that im sold.
              hendrix has done anough, but i'd love to see that fight. still intrested in seeing a diaz fight as well, believe diaz would be less tentive standing than carlos, he would get controled on the ground as well, but think he'd have more sucess than carlos there too.
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              • JamesKim
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                #637
                Originally posted by BIGDAY
                Can't wait to pound Hendrick via KO/TKO +890 vs GSP

                WoooHoooooooooo!!!!!
                I think Hendricks loses to GSP. GSP won't back up against Hendricks punches, he'll just duck low and shoot for the takedown.
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                • JamesKim
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                  #638
                  Also, Joe is definitely right, GSP looked absolutely massive today. He looked like he out weighed Carlos by a good 15 pounds.
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                  • Thor4140
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                    #639
                    Originally posted by JamesKim
                    Condit would've had a better chance if he just tried to hold GSP down completely and force a stand up.
                    i was saying the same thing but the ref they had do the fight is notorious for not standing fighters up and hearing about it from Dana. Gsp had homecourt advantage and the best ref in the ufc to fit his style.
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                    • CDMKMP
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                      • 10-18-12
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                      #640
                      Originally posted by BIGDAY
                      Can't wait to pound Hendrick via KO/TKO +890 vs GSP

                      WoooHoooooooooo!!!!!

                      You should just give your money to charity. GSP (and Condit for that matter) are consummate game-planners and would not stay with Hendricks in his most dominant area.
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                      • Thor4140
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                        #641
                        Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                        hendrix has done anough, but i'd love to see that fight. still intrested in seeing a diaz fight as well, believe diaz would be less tentive standing than carlos, he would get controled on the ground as well, but think he'd have more sucess than carlos there too.
                        i doubt it. I think we would see the same exact fight
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                        • sportsfanatic
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                          #642
                          Originally posted by JamesKim
                          Also, Joe is definitely right, GSP looked absolutely massive today. He looked like he out weighed Carlos by a good 15 pounds.
                          interesting... maybe testing packing on weight for silva?
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                          • Thor4140
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                            #643
                            Gsp has the style to beat Silva out of anyone. Nobody is better suit to beat Silva than GSP unless Silva had some balls and wanted to fight Jones but that will never happen. Maybe another bum at 205 but not Jones
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                            • JamesKim
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                              #644
                              Originally posted by sportsfanatic
                              interesting... maybe testing packing on weight for silva?
                              GSP looked really drained in a lot of interviews too. I saw a post here with an Ariel interview where GSP walked away saying he was too dehydrated. I know that's not because he's out of shape, I think he might actually be bulking a bit. I think he won't take the Silva fight after this, he needed a confidence boaster and this wasn't it. If he dominated Carlos, he might have said he'll go for the Silva fight.
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                              • Mercersux
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                                #645
                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                How about Hendrix vs Diaz. If he wins that im sold.
                                Actually, love that fight. Could end up being for the welterweight title if gsp moves up to fight silva. Only thing is I think dana would make diaz win another fight before he'd throw him into a title fight. Your are absolutely correct tho, hendericks v. Diaz would be awesome.
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                                • JoshKnows46
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                                  #646
                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                  i doubt it. I think we would see the same exact fight
                                  diaz wouldnt be going backwards that much, but yea pretty close to the same fight. hendricks is the tougher test, becuase of his wrestling and power. diaz has neither of those attributes, he needs a bunch of punches to count, gsp wouldnt let him get more than 3-4 punches off before putting him on his back, but i believe diaz is better off his back than condit, and would be more agressive on the feet.
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                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                    #647
                                    Originally posted by Vaughany

                                    Nobody finishes Condit brah
                                    none of the lighter weigh class champions besides aldo finish many fights either. Look at the last 6 fights of each champion from flyweight to welterweight

                                    Demetrious Johnson 0/6

                                    Dominick Cruz 1/6

                                    Jose Aldo 3/6

                                    Benson Henderson 0/6
                                    Frankie Edgar 1/6

                                    GSP 0/6
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                                    • STAY STRONG
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                                      #648
                                      good fight
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                                      • BIGDAY
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                                        #649
                                        Originally posted by JamesKim
                                        I think Hendricks loses to GSP. GSP won't back up against Hendricks punches, he'll just duck low and shoot for the takedown.
                                        ??? Why I like people like u. Betters my odds pal..
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                                        • JoshKnows46
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                                          #650
                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                          Gsp has the style to beat Silva out of anyone. Nobody is better suit to beat Silva than GSP unless Silva had some balls and wanted to fight Jones but that will never happen. Maybe another bum at 205 but not Jones
                                          gsp wouldnt be able to takedown silva, and would get lit up on the feet. gsp and sonnens wrestling is very comparable. silva has better takedown defense than most people believe. jones would be a great fight.
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                                          • BIGDAY
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                                            #651
                                            Originally posted by CDMKMP
                                            You should just give your money to charity. GSP (and Condit for that matter) are consummate game-planners and would not stay with Hendricks in his most dominant area.
                                            GSP will take the Anderson fight. Watch. He knows he can't take down Hendricks...
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                                            • JamesKim
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                                              #652
                                              Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                              diaz wouldnt be going backwards that much, but yea pretty close to the same fight. hendricks is the tougher test, becuase of his wrestling and power. diaz has neither of those attributes, he needs a bunch of punches to count, gsp wouldnt let him get more than 3-4 punches off before putting him on his back, but i believe diaz is better off his back than condit, and would be more agressive on the feet.
                                              Yeah, I think Diaz has no chance against GSP. Worst style out there. He doesn't have enough power to force GSP to respect his punches, and he probably won't be strong enough to grapple with GSP, even if he can outmatch him skill wise. GSP holds down Diaz for the victory.
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                                              • JoshKnows46
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                                                #653
                                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                Gsp has the style to beat Silva out of anyone. Nobody is better suit to beat Silva than GSP unless Silva had some balls and wanted to fight Jones but that will never happen. Maybe another bum at 205 but not Jones
                                                silva wants to fight gsp then jones in his next two fights...gsp wont take the fight, but jones vs silva will defintly happen.

                                                Anderson Silva has officially arrived in Montreal ahead of Saturday's UFC 154 event at the Bell Centre, and ESPN understands the Brazilian is hunting not one but two superfights.

                                                Silva greeted the public in Canada on Friday evening, and he will be present for the welterweight title collision between Georges St-Pierre and Carlos Condit.
                                                Victory for St-Pierre, according to president Dana White, will definitely lead to a superfight between GSP and Silva in May 2013, but the Brazilian is not prepared to stop there.

                                                ESPN understands Silva's master plan is to fight St-Pierre at a catchweight of around 178lbs, and then immediately switch the other side of his natural middleweight home to take on Jon Jones.

                                                There is exceptional respect between Silva and Jones, but both men have been made aware of the astronomical figures they would stand to make from a future collision.
                                                At the age of 37, and having more-or-less cleared out the 185lb division, Silva is keen to maximise his earnings from the remaining fights in his career. A GSP/Jones double is his No. 1 scenario, and the UFC is ready to encourage that outcome in order to live up to the promise of making the fights the fans want to see.

                                                It is also expected that Silva will step into the Octagon if St-Pierre wins on Saturday, despite previous quotes to the contrary. However, a win for Condit could yet throw a major spanner in the works.
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                                                • sportsfanatic
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                                                  #654
                                                  Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                  gsp wouldnt be able to takedown silva, and would get lit up on the feet. gsp and sonnens wrestling is very comparable. silva has better takedown defense than most people believe. jones would be a great fight.
                                                  i agree. silva's takedown defense looked better in the 2nd fight against sonnen. in the 2nd round anyways.
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                                                  • JoshKnows46
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                                                    #655
                                                    Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                                    GSP will take the Anderson fight. Watch. He knows he can't take down Hendricks...
                                                    he can't take down either fighter with consistancy. will probable get KO'd in both those fights.
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                                                    • BIGDAY
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                                                      #656
                                                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                      he can't take down either fighter with consistancy. will probable get KO'd in both those fights.
                                                      ?? I think he easily takes Anderson down.
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                                                      • JamesKim
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                                                        #657
                                                        Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                                        ?? I think he easily takes Anderson down.
                                                        How? By timing Anderson's shots? No way in hell GSP gets anywhere near the success of Sonnen or Hendo in the 1st round in taking Silva down. Only way to do that is to bullrush him and chain takedowns like a mofo, but GSP isn't going to do that. Trying to time a Silva strike for a takedown is a true recipe for a disaster.

                                                        Please keep to your word and bet on Hendricks against GSP if it happens and GSP against Silva if that happens. Do it and I promise I will bet the complete opposite.
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                                                        • CDMKMP
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                                                          #658
                                                          Wow you guys are delusional. GSP defends after a huge layoff, dominates 95% of the fight, is 100% on takedown attempts against a top level contender...

                                                          and now all of a sudden "GSP can't take down so and so, no way."

                                                          Keep dreaming because your money keeps the lines better for me. Sonnen took Silva down at will the first fight and the only reason he didn't get to the second fight is because he made the retarded decision to go for a spinning elbow up against the cage.

                                                          Every single person who fights GSP works their penetrating ass off to stop the takedown and he still gets them at will. The way Hendricks throws his punches with so much power leaves him way off balance and open for it.

                                                          I know Hendricks has some serious pedigree but this isn't college wrestling, and Kampmann isn't GSP by a long shot.
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                                                          • JoshKnows46
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                                                            #659
                                                            Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                                            ?? I think he easily takes Anderson down.
                                                            no way. lol sonnen couldnt take silva down. it'll be hard for gsp to get a takedown when he's backpedeling his ass off. anderson would imbarras him in the first round.

                                                            gsp has a much better chance of taking hendricks down.
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                                                            • Mr Handicapable
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                                                              #660
                                                              One guy can't stop 170 pounders and the other guy stops EVERY 185 and 205s once in a while too for the hell of it. No contest. Spider peppers knees at dudes 6'3 or taller so no way possible GSP would remain standing. GSPs frenchie @$$ will duck Silva unless he gets 2/3 of the gate or something ridiculous.
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                                                              • Grabaka
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                                                                #661
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                                                                • Grabaka
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                                                                  #662
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                                                                  • Mr Handicapable
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                                                                    #663
                                                                    Obama + Hendricks....LMAO...thats a helluva parlay
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                                                                    • BIGDAY
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                                                                      #664
                                                                      Originally posted by JamesKim
                                                                      How? By timing Anderson's shots? No way in hell GSP gets anywhere near the success of Sonnen or Hendo in the 1st round in taking Silva down. Only way to do that is to bullrush him and chain takedowns like a mofo, but GSP isn't going to do that. Trying to time a Silva strike for a takedown is a true recipe for a disaster.

                                                                      Please keep to your word and bet on Hendricks against GSP if it happens and GSP against Silva if that happens. Do it and I promise I will bet the complete opposite.
                                                                      I don't mind being against the public ever. Best of luck with your wager.
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                                                                      • Grabaka
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                                                                        #665
                                                                        LOL Thank you
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