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  • Wallco99
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    • 01-01-11
    • 7261

    #1
    John Morrison 2012 MLB Thread
    It's pitchers/catchers time, baseball is all but upon us.
  • Maxi_EV
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-11-10
    • 535

    #2
    Have you released the criterias of MLB PLU$$$
    V1? It's a mix of different systems, right?
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    • Wallco99
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      • 01-01-11
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      #3
      Originally posted by Maxi_EV
      Have you released the criterias of MLB PLU$$$
      V1? It's a mix of different systems, right?
      It's not a mix of anything, original system, and no I did not.
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      • Maxi_EV
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-11-10
        • 535

        #4
        You play it @ what % of roll?
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        • Wallco99
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          • 01-01-11
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          #5
          Originally posted by Maxi_EV
          You play it @ what % of roll?
          Same as everything else. $100/unit.
          Baseball is the starting point for my year. So I will look at my bankroll at the beginning of baseball to determine my unit size for the whole year. It will probably go up this season.
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          • petters72
            SBR High Roller
            • 05-16-09
            • 188

            #6
            Originally posted by Wallco99
            Same as everything else. $100/unit.
            Baseball is the starting point for my year. So I will look at my bankroll at the beginning of baseball to determine my unit size for the whole year. It will probably go up this season.
            Hi Wallco99
            Thanks for the tread in NBA. I look forward to follow you in MLB as well. Since I am new for the baseball betting I wonder if You can do a "once and for all" explanation how You play? Then You can only copy and paste for others to read as well. I will give You as many points You like for this work you do...just tell me how many you like.
            Thanks
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            • ChiLLx
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-24-11
              • 5412

              #7
              All aboard Walco.
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              • Kev the Brit
                SBR MVP
                • 10-25-09
                • 2027

                #8
                Originally posted by petters72
                Hi Wallco99 Thanks for the tread in NBA. I look forward to follow you in MLB as well. Since I am new for the baseball betting I wonder if You can do a "once and for all" explanation how You play? Then You can only copy and paste for others to read as well. I will give You as many points You like for this work you do...just tell me how many you like. Thanks
                Unless his business circumstances have changed, Wallco will not release his picking criteria here. He will post the daily picks and we play them on a 4 game chase. Simple. Last season bombed, but that was an aberration.
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                • Maxi_EV
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 05-11-10
                  • 535

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                  Same as everything else. $100/unit.
                  Baseball is the starting point for my year. So I will look at my bankroll at the beginning of baseball to determine my unit size for the whole year. It will probably go up this season.
                  % of roll please !!!

                  or

                  What would you like your bankroll to be in order to feel comfortable with your 100$ unit?
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                  • Maxi_EV
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                    • 05-11-10
                    • 535

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                    Unless his business circumstances have changed, Wallco will not release his picking criteria here. He will post the daily picks and we play them on a 4 game chase. Simple. Last season bombed, but that was an aberration.
                    2011: ???
                    2010: +151 units
                    2009: +174 units
                    2008: +201 units
                    2007: + 78 units
                    2006: -147 units
                    2005: + 74 units
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                    • Wallco99
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-01-11
                      • 7261

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                      Unless his business circumstances have changed, Wallco will not release his picking criteria here. He will post the daily picks and we play them on a 4 game chase. Simple. Last season bombed, but that was an aberration.
                      You're right, it went bad, mainly because I got stupid and added a v2 that I thought was promising, but wasn't. I will post the staandings this year and last year will have an asterisk, with and without v2. Believe me, there was a big difference.
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                      • Wallco99
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-01-11
                        • 7261

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                        % of roll please !!!

                        or

                        What would you like your bankroll to be in order to feel comfortable with your 100$ unit?
                        Whatever you are comfortable with.
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                        • thelimit0310
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-24-11
                          • 1233

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                          2011: ???
                          2010: +151 units
                          2009: +174 units
                          2008: +201 units
                          2007: + 78 units
                          2006: -147 units
                          2005: + 74 units
                          Are these numbers correct? Looks promising though I know it dived down to the depths of hell for last year.

                          Wallco if you could post last years numbers, preferably without V2 so they match Maxi's, I'd appreciate it. Nice job on the thread!
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                          • WWSports
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                            • 01-29-12
                            • 103

                            #14
                            Good luck this year.
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                            • Maxi_EV
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                              • 05-11-10
                              • 535

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                              Whatever you are comfortable with.
                              Why don't you provide people with a good advice. It's your system buddy. You know how it swings.
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                              • knugen
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-09-09
                                • 2612

                                #16
                                wallco, will u tell us how the system work, or do i u gonna keep that for yourself??
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                                • Wallco99
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-01-11
                                  • 7261

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                  Why don't you provide people with a good advice. It's your system buddy. You know how it swings.
                                  Because it it not here yet, I haven't finished reviewing 2011 and making adjustments, and I don't care about it yet. My personal bets have nothing to do with how others play any system. The backtests are provided, base your personal wagers on your comfort level of those results. Enough already. It's a four game chase syatem, play whatever % roll you normally would on a chase. If I play 1% or 5%, really doesn't matter to how others are going to do it.
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                                  • Wallco99
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                                    • 01-01-11
                                    • 7261

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by thelimit0310
                                    Are these numbers correct? Looks promising though I know it dived down to the depths of hell for last year.

                                    Wallco if you could post last years numbers, preferably without V2 so they match Maxi's, I'd appreciate it. Nice job on the thread!
                                    That's what I plan on doing, but he's not really giving me a chance. I am swarmed with NBA backtest right now, and have 0 time for MLB. I play $100 per unit, if that's not enough, then so be it.
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                                    • Wallco99
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                                      • 01-01-11
                                      • 7261

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by knugen
                                      wallco, will u tell us how the system work, or do i u gonna keep that for yourself??
                                      I will post all the plays, same as last year.
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                                      • Maxi_EV
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                                        • 05-11-10
                                        • 535

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by thelimit0310
                                        Are these numbers correct? Looks promising though I know it dived down to the depths of hell for last year.

                                        Wallco if you could post last years numbers, preferably without V2 so they match Maxi's, I'd appreciate it. Nice job on the thread!
                                        Those are the numbers he posted last year.
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                                        • Maxi_EV
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                                          • 05-11-10
                                          • 535

                                          #21
                                          Just to help out people decide their unit size for MLB PLU$$$.
                                          Based on Wallco's results posted last year & with 2011 going even (we will adjust that later).

                                          MLB PLU$$$ will produce:

                                          520 units or less: 100% of the time
                                          200 units or less: 86.8% of the time
                                          100 units or less: 58.6% of the time
                                          50 units or less: 40.8% of the time

                                          0 units or less: 24.73% of the time

                                          -50 units or worst: 12.86% of the time
                                          -100 units or worst: 5.67% of the time
                                          -150 units or worst: 2.1 % of the time
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                                          • Maxi_EV
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                                            • 05-11-10
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                                            #22
                                            Wallco

                                            When you will have the time, can you provide us with each season's record in terms of # of series win/loss, please?
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                                            • nrok2118
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-10-12
                                              • 1182

                                              #23
                                              I think a big thing here is bankroll management. If you bet 1% as a unit, if the system swings to -100 units at any point you will be broke. It can than recover and even end the year in the green, but that doesnt matter because you would have lost your entire roll and be forced to quit.

                                              So Wallco, it would be nice information to know what types of swings you saw in the backtest, and to what extent in the red. With a year at around -150 you would need to be playing .5% roll/unit but for all I know it could have swung to -200 at any point and you would have lost it all before recovering anything back.

                                              Im gonna follow this v1 this year, probably do 1% units and hope for no big red swings
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                                              • Maxi_EV
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                                                • 05-11-10
                                                • 535

                                                #24
                                                Don't hope. Protect yourself.
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                                                • Wallco99
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                                                  • 01-01-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                  Just to help out people decide their unit size for MLB PLU$$$.
                                                  Based on Wallco's results posted last year & with 2011 going even (we will adjust that later).

                                                  MLB PLU$$$ will produce:

                                                  520 units or less: 100% of the time
                                                  200 units or less: 86.8% of the time
                                                  100 units or less: 58.6% of the time
                                                  50 units or less: 40.8% of the time

                                                  0 units or less: 24.73% of the time

                                                  -50 units or worst: 12.86% of the time
                                                  -100 units or worst: 5.67% of the time
                                                  -150 units or worst: 2.1 % of the time
                                                  Blah, Blah, Blah, up until last season it produced +594 units. 2011 stats will be posted when I have finished compiling. For anyone getting confused by the complex posts that are starting to appear in this thread, +594 is the bottom line. I play systems for the long haul. not day-day, or week-week, or unit-unit, as some folks appear to be doing. If you started playing in 2005 and stopped in 2011, you would have 594 more units than you started with. I will updare 2011 once I determine how much of the loss was from v2.
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                                                  • Wallco99
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                                                    • 01-01-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                    Wallco

                                                    When you will have the time, can you provide us with each season's record in terms of # of series win/loss, please?
                                                    That was already posted in last year's backtest, in JM MLB thread.
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                                                    • bauerranch
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-01-10
                                                      • 611

                                                      #27
                                                      Thanks- checking in
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                                                      • Maxi_EV
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-11-10
                                                        • 535

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                        Blah, Blah, Blah, up until last season it produced +594 units. 2011 stats will be posted when I have finished compiling. For anyone getting confused by the complex posts that are starting to appear in this thread, +594 is the bottom line. I play systems for the long haul. not day-day, or week-week, or unit-unit, as some folks appear to be doing. If you started playing in 2005 and stopped in 2011, you would have 594 more units than you started with. I will updare 2011 once I determine how much of the loss was from v2.
                                                        I don't see what offends you in that post...
                                                        Again, you're in defensive mode.

                                                        Just numbers...
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                                                        • Maxi_EV
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-11-10
                                                          • 535

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                          That was already posted in last year's backtest, in JM MLB thread.
                                                          Your backtest was posted in terms of UNITS last year.
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                                                          • Wallco99
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                                                            • 01-01-11
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                            I don't see what offends you in that post...
                                                            Again, you're in defensive mode.

                                                            Just numbers...
                                                            Nothing offends me, I am just tired of hearing about it in February, when you know I am running several NBA backtests.
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                                                            • Wallco99
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                                                              • 01-01-11
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                              Your backtest was posted in terms of UNITS last year.
                                                              Go read post #3446 in last year's thread, and as I said, It was posted in that thread.
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                                                              • Wallco99
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                                                                #32
                                                                Peace!
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                                                                • WWSports
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                                                                  • 01-29-12
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                  Peace!
                                                                  No sh*t!!!
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                                                                  • Maxi_EV
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 05-11-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                    Go read post #3446 in last year's thread, and as I said, It was posted in that thread.
                                                                    Thanks.
                                                                    Sorry for that.
                                                                    Points given.
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                                                                    • Maxi_EV
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                      Nothing offends me, I am just tired of hearing about it in February, when you know I am running several NBA backtests.
                                                                      I know and it is appreciated. I can't wait to ear about your Chase 110 re-backtest.
                                                                      That's why I bolded when you will have the time.

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