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  • ryanXL977
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-24-08
    • 20615

    #1
    tampa bay today
    this team is legit. also, and more importantly, cleveland sucks a fat mans dick

    james shields at plus money, why not take a shot. we al know cliff lee is nothing to write home about
    fade him
  • sickness
    SBR Sharp
    • 07-04-08
    • 263

    #2
    i like over 7.5 in this game.

    probably the only one with this play.
    Sports Newb since July '08
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    • DarkLord_Rathi
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-13-08
      • 248

      #3
      Take the under..both of the bats are cold
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      • ryanXL977
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-24-08
        • 20615

        #4
        tampa is gonna break out
        they are legit
        they are real
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        • fifawcs
          SBR MVP
          • 05-14-07
          • 2888

          #5
          I'm really liking the Indians in this game. I don't think the Rays will manage to get a run. They cannot hit lefties, so don't expect them to crush Cy Young Cliff Lee. Also, James Shields has a horrible road ERA. Expect a score similar to yesterday's.
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          • R3Sports
            SBR MVP
            • 03-21-07
            • 3167

            #6
            I like TB, might play it...

            honestly not sure yet.
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            • chipski
              SBR MVP
              • 11-16-07
              • 1745

              #7
              seems the rays over the top success so far has them sputtering to the break ..

              tough choice in this one
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              • ryanXL977
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-24-08
                • 20615

                #8
                they got beaten in ny, not a big deal, most teams do
                then lost one to cleve
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                • R3Sports
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-21-07
                  • 3167

                  #9
                  Leaning more and more towards the Rays..

                  Whats the value, right now I have +100
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                  • woodg8
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-21-08
                    • 1349

                    #10
                    Cleveland sucks? Did you see yesterday's game?
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                    • ryanXL977
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-24-08
                      • 20615

                      #11
                      dude, this isnt soccer
                      its baseball, its one game of 162
                      one game dude
                      check the records
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                      • awholelottalumps
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-14-07
                        • 1049

                        #12
                        Something is telling me that the public is going to jump all over Cleveland in this one so back Tampa Bay here as it's the logical thing to do.
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                        • BadBeatBodog
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-05-08
                          • 1006

                          #13
                          I am tempted towards TB. The public is all over Cle as far as I know, and while Cliff Lee is very good Shields is no slouch. On the surface he's struggled on the road but that's largely due to an inflated BAbip of .336 away from Tropicana. And despite yesterday's outcome TB still has the offensive and defensive advantage.
                          "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                          "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                          • ryanXL977
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-24-08
                            • 20615

                            #14
                            shileds is as good as lee, and team and pen is more important that starter
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                            • chipski
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-16-07
                              • 1745

                              #15
                              rays on 4 game skid , indians broke 10 game losing streak yesterday beating the rays .. clev going right back in the L column would be worth a shot ONLY iF CLEV WAS ON THE ROAD AND NOT FEATURING THEIR ACE AT HOME .. clev should be pissed off tonight and focused wanting to prove everyone wrong that they suck .. they have great players just like the rays do ..

                              rays have proven everyone wrong this year so they could be the exception to the rule . who knows which way the game will swing . i like a one run decision ..
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                              • ryanXL977
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-24-08
                                • 20615

                                #16
                                remember, they can be as pissed as they want, so what. tb is better. i am sure tb is pissed losing 4 in a row
                                cleve has no pen. none, zero
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                                • chipski
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-16-07
                                  • 1745

                                  #17
                                  okay forget pissed , how about focused .. locked and loaded after putting up 13 runs last night against the same team they play tonight <>

                                  thought rays closer was out , left hamstring
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                                  • ryanXL977
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-24-08
                                    • 20615

                                    #18
                                    he is but they still have a good pen
                                    cleve has no pen
                                    not one guy
                                    and very little offense
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                                    • chipski
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-16-07
                                      • 1745

                                      #19
                                      if anyone culd be labeled a loose cannon , it would be shields ..
                                      so if he has an altercation and is ejected i wonder which side people would wish they were on then .. haha

                                      odds on that
                                      ejected +250
                                      is not ejected -300
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #20
                                        well if he gets tossed than i will probably lose
                                        but cleveland has trouble scoring period
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                                        • chipski
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-16-07
                                          • 1745

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                          he is but they still have a good pen
                                          cleve has no pen
                                          not one guy
                                          and very little offense
                                          indians past 7 games averaged 5.4 rpg
                                          rays last 7 averaged 4.3 rpg

                                          indians average 4.5 rpg overall and 4.5 vs right handers
                                          rays average 3.8 vs lefthanders and 4.7 overall

                                          indians have won the last 9 games playing tb in clev
                                          have beaten tb like a drum overall in recent history

                                          rays on 4th game of 6 game road trip eating hotel food and sleeping in strange beds ..
                                          breathing the wonderful clev ohio air .
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            those stats mean zip to me
                                            this is a diff tb team and a diff cleve team
                                            cleve has no pen, no victor, no hafner
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                                            • chipski
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-16-07
                                              • 1745

                                              #23
                                              the stats for rpg are this year and they just beat them last night 13 - 2 .
                                              they slaughtered the rays bullpen with a 7 run 8th inn

                                              odds on glover seeing action tonight
                                              yes +400
                                              no -500
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                                              • ryanXL977
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 20615

                                                #24
                                                that game was one game
                                                who is better, cleve or tb
                                                who wins more games this yr
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                                                • chipski
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-16-07
                                                  • 1745

                                                  #25
                                                  right , was one game , just like tonight .
                                                  who wins more games i would say tb .
                                                  which that prediction is not relevant to lee pitching great and shutting down tb tonight in clev on the last fri night before the all star break ..
                                                  could lee say f it and pitch like crap , sure he could . who knows ..
                                                  could it be fixed , who knows .
                                                  if it is on the up and up then the home team with lee is the play .
                                                  along with aLL the other factors that exist >>> TIMEFRAME ..

                                                  usually a team playing at home with thier ace on the mound after breaking a long miserable losing streak wins the next game AT HOME . throw in that it is on a fri night for the big fri night crowd pleaser .. then there it is .

                                                  GL
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                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                    • 20615

                                                    #26
                                                    i think tb is value
                                                    we shall see
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                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                      • 20615

                                                      #27
                                                      i am about ready to bail on tb on the road
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                                                      • rake922
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-23-07
                                                        • 11692

                                                        #28
                                                        ryan, what percent of bets do you win?
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                                                        • woodg8
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-21-08
                                                          • 1349

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                          dude, this isnt soccer
                                                          its baseball, its one game of 162
                                                          one game dude
                                                          check the records
                                                          it may not be soccer, why you're referring to soccer in this context makes no sense anyway. baseball has alot of coparisons to cricket. you can see the cleveland batters are in good form. confidence is gonna be high, and they're showing that today.

                                                          records only tell you so much.
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                                                          • ryanXL977
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-24-08
                                                            • 20615

                                                            #30
                                                            what am i saying is this

                                                            first: records tell you everything, thats all you can measure a team by, thats what matters
                                                            secondly,. i watch cleveland a lot, they are my favorite team, and they are awful. they have conceded their season and they are not good. so i dont really care if they won last night. is everyone who won last night good?
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                                                            • woodg8
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-21-08
                                                              • 1349

                                                              #31
                                                              it's not a question of being good, it's a question of being on form. rubbish teams can go on rolls too, in any sport. a win brings confidence that can stem through the team.

                                                              and if you're measuring teams only on records then, sorry to say, i'd never back a pick of yours
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                                                              • ryanXL977
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-24-08
                                                                • 20615

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by woodg8
                                                                it's not a question of being good, it's a question of being on form. rubbish teams can go on rolls too, in any sport. a win brings confidence that can stem through the team.

                                                                and if you're measuring teams only on records then, sorry to say, i'd never back a pick of yours
                                                                again, this isnt soccer
                                                                you are using metaphors for the wrong sport
                                                                i assure you cleveland isnt good, they are missing half the team they ahd last year, two of their best starters, their best relievers, and 3 of their top 6 hitters.
                                                                they are not good and are not capable of winning 75 games as constituted
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                                                                • fifawcs
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-14-07
                                                                  • 2888

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I happen to think a team like the Mariners has a lot of value even though their record sucks.
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                                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                                    • 20615

                                                                    #34
                                                                    how so
                                                                    they have no hitters, they dont get on base, they dont walk, they cant hit homers. they are overapid and slow
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                                                                    • fifawcs
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-14-07
                                                                      • 2888

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The Mariners offense beats up on lefties. Anytime they face a lefty you have to give them a shot, provided that they have a decent pitcher on the mound.
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