The system

**jorge1** · 05-01-11, 10:34 PM

if i cash this live bet, i think im on top for the day

**jorge1** · 05-01-11, 10:37 PM

OMG, i thought that $hit ws GONNNNNEEE!!!!!

**Sbot420** · 05-01-11, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by DLy4287

phillies arent taking this

Did u call Mrs. Cleo on that cause im pretty sure there is plenty of time to score a cpl runs

Have faith brah

**jorge1** · 05-01-11, 10:42 PM

lol...who knows man...walk off Homer with a man on base will do it...

I just wanna win this live bet...ill be a very very angry bettor if i dont...

**jorge1** · 05-01-11, 10:42 PM

Sbot, nice avatar...ive been known for the girls i put up in my avatars..but that one deserves props..

**Sbot420** · 05-01-11, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by jorge1

Sbot, nice avatar...ive been known for the girls i put up in my avatars..but that one deserves props..

Hell ya i would turn her OUT!!!! lol

**Sbot420** · 05-01-11, 11:00 PM

Can't let the mets keep hangin around dammit

**Titan_12** · 05-01-11, 11:09 PM

Alright, let's get it done this inning!

**dogs1972** · 05-01-11, 11:44 PM

Awww yeah. This is gonna hurt.

**Sbot420** · 05-02-11, 12:18 AM

Its all good. Another day another unit. Lets grind it out...
I'll post my Trifecta pick tomm morning. We can talk about unit size. I'm stacking units this week. Hit me up

**dannyd66** · 05-02-11, 12:20 AM

Well, up to thier old tricks!!!!!!!

Mets-Phillies...........what're gonna do?????????????

**Titan_12** · 05-02-11, 06:39 AM

Morning all, let's get'em today!

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 07:04 AM

No more live betting unless its to hedge.

Beyond upset right now

**upscope** · 05-02-11, 07:08 AM

back to the grind i guess....

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 08:03 AM

im so disgusted w myself right now...so much work to drop large plays...SPECIALLY LIVE???

I FEEL LIKE AN AMATURE RIGHT NOW..I FACKING LEARNED THESE LESSONS YEAR BEFORE LAST AND BEFORE THAT AND I COME TO DO THSI CRAP NOW??? WITH A SYSTEM THAT WORKS???

IM writing myself a set of rules...check me out

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 08:07 AM

i swear to adhere by these until the all-star break:

No faves over -145

no -1.5 runlines

no live betting unless its a hedge

no fading system plays...if i dont agree, i simply dont play it.

no playing yanks over -130, no play sox over -130, no playing philly over -130.

no playing sunday night baseball larger than 1 unit.

no playing any game larger than 3 units.

fack! im pissed

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 08:07 AM

last night we went 11-13 -9.86x

this doesnt include my live betting..that wasnt a ssytem play, in all fairness...

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 08:10 AM

4/14 9-3 +7.26x
4/15 9-5 +3.00x
4/18 7-2 +2.67x
4/19 10-3 +6.14x
4/20 10-7 +1.33x
4/21 5-7 -0.81x
4/22 8-6 +3.58x
4/23 9-3 +6.72x
4/24 8-2 +3.35x
4/25 5-5 +0.20x
4/26 6-11 -4.62x
4/27 6-5 +1.87X
4/28 5-8 -3.97x
4/29 9-6 +3.48x
4/30 11-8 +4.71x
5/1 11-13 -9.86x

YTD 128-94 (~57.7%) +25.05x

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 08:13 AM

here are results if i were flat betting 100 and not fading the system!

139-83 (62.6%) +62.95x

my stupidness has made me fack up the results of my own system...i feel like a moron..but fack that..im better than that...

btw, i decided something...i dont wanna play more than 12 sides a day..its simply too many...so if there is a day with more than 12 sides, ill eliminate the most expensive accordingly...

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 08:15 AM

in fact, im only betting 9 games a day...thats it...not 12...i dont care if some winners are those expensive plays..itll pay off in the long run to eliminate faves above -135ish anyways

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 08:16 AM

5/2 -

79565186-15/1/11 11:06pm$101.00$100.00
Pending5/2/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 901 San Francisco Giants -101* vs Washington Nationals (M Bumgarner - L must Start T Gorzelanny - L must Start)

79565186-25/1/11 11:06pm$100.00$131.00
Pending5/2/11 7:10pm Reduced Baseball 903 Milwaukee Brewers +131* vs Atlanta Braves (Y Gallardo - R must Start J Jurrjens - R must Start)

79565186-35/1/11 11:06pm$100.00$163.00
Pending5/2/11 7:10pm Reduced Baseball 905 Houston Astros +163* vs Cincinnati Reds (J Happ - L must Start M Leake - R must Start)

79565186-45/1/11 11:06pm$100.00$160.00
Pending5/2/11 8:15pm Reduced Baseball 907 Florida Marlins +160* vs St. Louis Cardinals (C Volstad - R must Start K Lohse - R must Start)

79565186-55/1/11 11:06pm$100.00$143.00
Pending5/2/11 10:05pm Reduced Baseball 909 Pittsburgh Pirates +143* vs San Diego Padres (J McDonald - R must Start A Harang - R must Start)

79565186-65/1/11 11:06pm$100.00$109.00
Pending5/2/11 3:35pm Reduced Baseball 913 Texas Rangers +109* vs Oakland Athletics (D Holland - L must Start B McCarthy - R must Start)

79565186-75/1/11 11:06pm$104.00$100.00
Pending5/2/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 915 Los Angeles Angels -104* vs Boston Red Sox (Jer Weaver - R must Start C Buchholz - R must Start)

79565186-85/1/11 11:06pm$100.00$113.00
Pending5/2/11 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 917 New York Yankees +113* vs Detroit Tigers (B Colon - R must Start J Verlander - R must Start)

79565186-95/1/11 11:06pm$100.00$101.00
Pending5/2/11 8:10pm Reduced Baseball 919 Baltimore Orioles +101* vs Chicago White Sox (J Guthrie - R must Start M Buehrle - L must Start)

**ClausensHands** · 05-02-11, 08:24 AM

Salgood Jorge, you'll get it back it back.

**ClausensHands** · 05-02-11, 08:26 AM

I like today's card btw. BOL man!

**Titan_12** · 05-02-11, 08:47 AM

You'll be it back Jorge, just trust your own system.....All system plays on today's card?

**fitguy67** · 05-02-11, 09:29 AM

This is single best thread I have ever seen on a sports-betting form…centred about the most fascinating, and robust system I’ve ever seen…and with the best “esprit de corps”…both carefully cultivated by Jorge.

As a high-volume “net win generator”, I’ve seen no equal to the system we’ve seen on these 20-odd pages. Think of it…60% win rate and about 15 plays every night…means 9-6, for 3 units profit (less chalk) daily. The last update showed 117-81 for net 36 wins (with 95% of that=34units left after chalk)…all in just 15 days action…IF WE JUST FLAT BET THIS SUCKER AT 1%/PLAY and RESIST THE URGET TO TINKER WE’VE GOT A MONEY MACHINE HERE PEOPLE.

The Germans say “the better is the enemy of the good” and it captures the essence of what just happened here.

Jorge, please shake it off…every single one of us has done exactly the same damn thing and abandoned our senses in the heat of frustration.

Take some time off to lick your wounds, by all means, Jorge…and when you do, you’ll find your supporters both waiting for the next slate, but also willing to lend a hand with some of the system development/implementation chores.

I personally would like to offer my services as the Bet-Size Clarification Czar…set and morally remind the thread to adhere to 1% flat-absolute bet-size of ALL system picks (with NO MODIFICATIONS) and stick there until one’s account fully doubles, at which time the absolute bet size is re-defined (ie. doubled)…rinse, lather, repeat.

**upscope** · 05-02-11, 09:34 AM

I understand why you would want to stick to few games as possible but if the system says play em & you trust the system you should consider playing them. I'm not a fan of heavy chalk myself btw....The real question is if the heavy chalk system plays can show a long term profit. If they can you go w/ it. If they can't they probably shouldn't be system plays in the first place.....

I've followed this thread for a while now & have have jumped on periodically (wrong days naturally) but I'm not sweating it. I'm gaining more & more confidence everyday & you are obviously working hard. So if you believe in it go w/ it. Boundaries are good to have but passing UP positive EV because of boundaries could be a flaw??

I'm a newb here btw so don't mind me but that's my .02

Great work btw....Don't go on tilt though

**upscope** · 05-02-11, 09:40 AM

I have 22 points & tried to give em 2 you because I know you're looking for an IPad.....
I got this response:
"We could not award this user points. This person may not be allowed to receive points
or you do not have enough points."

I don't know what these points are or where they come from or their value but if they can help you get an IPad....take em'

**fitguy67** · 05-02-11, 09:41 AM

Jorge...your system DEFINITELY AIN'T BROKE...there was/is nothing wrong with the large number of plays (as long as the win rate stays anything higher than 55%)...the more the more profitable...larger slates in the long run simply generate a given net-win quicker (therefore net units won)...AS LONG AS YOU TAKE THE FULL UNMODIFIED SET OF PLAYS ARE APPLIED WITH THE SAME FLAT %BR...birds are chirping/butterflies are fluttering for all of us (except bookies)...Ray

**sports28** · 05-02-11, 09:42 AM

Hope you get it back today jorge..good luck!

**fitguy67** · 05-02-11, 09:48 AM

Damn, your system is so good that I came out of retirement as a "lurker"....but i want you to just give it to us "raw"=ALL the plays left after all the intra-system filters are applied...with nothing magnified/minimized/reversed/censored...

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 09:57 AM

thanks guys...it means alot to me believe it or not for those of you who are there to back me up...

real talk, the system is good..its not based on stats..its based on lines...ive proven it to myself that I actually mess up the system plays by playing against it...

let me clarify something...system plays do NOT call for RUNLINES...ive done that as a modification to when plays are too expensive..this week imma play all plays under -145 that are system plays.

Only filter im putting in is if a team is on a 4 game losing streak or worse...but i wont bet on those games period...the errors ive made are the following:

bet too much on certain plays (not often, but last night acctouns for a whole monthsssss worth of facking up)

ive faded the system as per my own judgement..not worked..ive dropped like 14 plays, and beat the system 4 times...so the system has beaten me 10 times over even when ive faded it, and ALOT has been dogs!

So, im not taking time off to lick wounds, im just reflecting on the first month of bases and pissed that instead of being 40-50+ im around 15+...its still plus, but last night was retarded...bin laden getting murked got me all worked up, i put 15 units on PHI LIVE in the 9th inning, and you saw what happened...

no complaints on playing it, i just regret the amount...having said that...ive proven this facking system works with a large sample size...the system itself has won over 65% of the plays, but with my retarded ass filtering techniques, ive managed to pull that down to around 57 or 59 %...whatever it is...reither way, im ready to fight..

its not the dog in the fight, its the fight in the DAWG!

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 09:58 AM

okay...no problem...from now on, all system plays will be given with no filters or anything...

some plays today are outside the system...so only playing these 9...

**firehoyt** · 05-02-11, 10:01 AM

What's up with all these ghosts with 3, 6, 8, 10 posts praising the system all the sudden when there's a losing day?!?

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 10:02 AM

lemme clarify something else...i use a different system for totals..its not the same i use to determine sides...im gonna track totals this week and see how they do, but im not playing them...i wanna have a solid week..no fading system..no additional plays..no facking around...no props..no nothing..i wanna gain over 20 units this week...i think there isnt a reason why it cant be done!

**jorge1** · 05-02-11, 10:03 AM

lol, i thought the same thing..