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  • stevex
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-02-10
    • 5122

    #1121
    Going to tail the system this year, but be MUCH much more conservative and labby away....

    Lets do this fellas!
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    • Maleku
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-18-11
      • 610

      #1122
      Originally posted by stevex
      Going to tail the system this year, but be MUCH much more conservative and labby away....

      Lets do this fellas!
      Hiya Steve!

      Been a long time man... we used to chat it up in the SBP threads. How have you been?

      I consider you to be a guru when it comes to labbys... can you throw down an example of how you will run your labby being that there will potentially be lots of games going off on the same day with this system?

      Enlighten us because I can not figure out the most beneficial way to do this.

      Cheers.
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      • spankmythighs
        SBR MVP
        • 01-26-10
        • 2884

        #1123
        I like this system alot but I think I will tail the top 10 or 12 projected teams in MLB to win after a shut-out. For ex. Texas, Boston, NYY, Phili, Reds, Angels, St. Louis, Cleveland, Giants, Ari, Atl ,and Detroit.
        sbr
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        • TeamNookMum
          SBR High Roller
          • 04-15-09
          • 249

          #1124
          what do you on days when the system conflicts, as in you have to play both sides, one team from each system
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          • DustyDiamond
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-19-09
            • 772

            #1125
            As far as I know yes, both sides are played, where this is a 6 game chase, there is lots of time to make up for the known loss. However, I think most people only play the fade system.
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            • cmdyrds
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-20-09
              • 522

              #1126
              does anyone know if there has been any modifications to this system since last year?
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              • domi
                SBR Hustler
                • 02-29-12
                • 77

                #1127
                Did any one try this system in the nhl ?
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                • bauerranch
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-01-10
                  • 611

                  #1128
                  Checking in for this year- good luck
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                  • DustyDiamond
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 12-19-09
                    • 772

                    #1129
                    Originally posted by cmdyrds
                    does anyone know if there has been any modifications to this system since last year?
                    I'm thinking the only mod was to not start a new series once Sept 1st hits. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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                    • cmdyrds
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-20-09
                      • 522

                      #1130
                      Originally posted by DustyDiamond
                      I'm thinking the only mod was to not start a new series once Sept 1st hits. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

                      thank you
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                      • on3
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-23-10
                        • 2197

                        #1131
                        just checking in. BOL everyone.
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                        • Maleku
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-18-11
                          • 610

                          #1132
                          With 7 system loses, did the "FOLLOW" system show profit or loss last year?
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                          • greenhippo
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-15-12
                            • 9091

                            #1133
                            7 system losses = a shit ton of unit losses, even on a 4 game chase, losing 7 series is a loss of 105 units. Going to take a lot to make up for that.
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                            • nitsuj378
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 12-16-10
                              • 123

                              #1134
                              Just curious. Are we going to keep using this thread from last season for the upcoming season or is someone going to start a new one?
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                              • pagodo
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 05-09-11
                                • 669

                                #1135
                                Hi all, checking in for 2012

                                I'm starting a new thread for the year and moving some useful info to its first page:
                                Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
                                Last edited by pagodo; 03-26-12, 05:31 AM. Reason: linked
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                                • PokerDave
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 02-07-11
                                  • 50

                                  #1136
                                  BOL ALL, I'm on board
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                                  • biblos
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-14-09
                                    • 783

                                    #1137
                                    Clear rules

                                    Hi.Anyone can post more clear rules about Shutout system?
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                                    • biblos
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-14-09
                                      • 783

                                      #1138
                                      JJ

                                      Is a James Jones system right?
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                                      • bateeeman22
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 02-22-13
                                        • 100

                                        #1139
                                        Originally posted by black666
                                        Not the best day yesterday - but you gotta fight through the hard times .. at least the RedSox won.
                                        I'm halfway done with my backtesting program .. let's hope I get some results this weekend on how the systems really did in the last couple of season.

                                        Anyway..today's games:

                                        System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

                                        fade Giants game 2
                                        fade Padres game 1

                                        System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 5 game chase):

                                        tail Tigers game 4
                                        tail Pirates game 2
                                        tail Braves game 1
                                        what is mean by "fade" and "tail"? english is not my native language so please don't cut me off!
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                                        • snark
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 11-12-12
                                          • 311

                                          #1140
                                          Tail = Bet on
                                          Fade = Bet against
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                                          • bateeeman22
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-22-13
                                            • 100

                                            #1141
                                            Originally posted by snark
                                            Tail = Bet on
                                            Fade = Bet against
                                            thank you

                                            another question, what is the average stake layout for the both systems (6times in a row betting)?
                                            Last edited by bateeeman22; 02-23-13, 06:33 PM.
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                                            • bateeeman22
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 02-22-13
                                              • 100

                                              #1142
                                              Stakes And Odds

                                              I mean, what are the average stakes and odds for this 6 game chase?

                                              1. game odd -140 stake 10 $
                                              2. game odd x stake x

                                              ?
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                                              • DustyDiamond
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 12-19-09
                                                • 772

                                                #1143
                                                Someone took this system and is now selling it.. haha shutoutsystem.com unbelievable. This system was born here on SBR
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                                                • Nick6570
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 04-15-09
                                                  • 163

                                                  #1144
                                                  Checking in for 2013
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                                                  • sunshine11
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-13-14
                                                    • 2634

                                                    #1145
                                                    Originally posted by pagodo
                                                    Thank you so much, everyone, for the good vibes, I hope to see you all back in 2012

                                                    I'm looking closely at NHL stats and lines from previous seasons, but if I'll figure something out, I won't start posting in the hockey handicapping section sooner than mid-November as I have a lot of work ahead at my day job right now.

                                                    I'll put up a post or two about the strategy later in the week, for now here's a quick results' update with yesterday's Marlins' game 5 win accounted for.

                                                    ---
                                                    System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):
                                                    Final 2011 results:

                                                    Game 1: 162-149
                                                    Game 2: 77-72
                                                    Game 3: 32-40
                                                    Game 4: 22-18
                                                    Game 5: 11-7
                                                    Game 6: 5-2

                                                    SYSTEM 1 = (309-2)


                                                    ---
                                                    System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):
                                                    Final 2011 results:

                                                    Game 1: 160-151
                                                    Game 2: 79-72
                                                    Game 3: 36-36
                                                    Game 4: 16-20
                                                    Game 5: 8-12
                                                    Game 6: 8-4

                                                    SYSTEM 2 = (307-4)

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                                                    6 game chase. you need to have you're head examined betting this system. A lot of #6 bets i see.
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                                                    • atthehalf
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-31-13
                                                      • 5074

                                                      #1146
                                                      If you're going to go with the full game then you're supposed to go +1.5 RL if the team getting shutout is an underdog their next game, and the ML if they are favored. if the juice is over -165 then utilize the favorite RL. Trust me. I know this-it's my system LOL! You can fact check that statement by going to my page and looking at the MLB threads that I started last year.

                                                      That stated this works better with the FF to cut down on the bullpen losses and get some pushes in the mix
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                                                      • atthehalf
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-31-13
                                                        • 5074

                                                        #1147
                                                        When two teams that have been shutout face one another you pass on that game and then whichever team wins you fade them the next game
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                                                        • atthehalf
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-31-13
                                                          • 5074

                                                          #1148
                                                          Only other tweaks that I recommend are to use only teams at or above .500 and if you convert to first fives if you end up with a push taking the favorite ML then that series is over. I only chase 4 games, and I increased the stake 2X and 3X and so on to cover the losses. Works much much better doing first fives gentlemen. Those push moves help the bottom line
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                                                          • atthehalf
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-31-13
                                                            • 5074

                                                            #1149
                                                            Ok so the Pale Hose won in my shutout system first five today so that would be kind of what I was talking about by leaning on the starters to go the first five frames and get rid of the bullpen issues that occur with full game moves. I made a move for the RL because the vig was obese..
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                                                            • sunshine11
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-13-14
                                                              • 2634

                                                              #1150
                                                              Stfu spammer. GL with that. No system is foolproof or Vegas would be broke.
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                                                              • atthehalf
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-31-13
                                                                • 5074

                                                                #1151
                                                                Originally posted by sunshine11
                                                                Stfu spammer. GL with that. No system is foolproof or Vegas would be broke.
                                                                Yeah chasing for 6 full term games is a means to an end. The problem with doing the system for the full game are the late game losses incurred by bullpens and using it for teams under .500. The system as intended only called for 4 game chases and when I switched to first fives it worked wonderfully-especially since I rank my pitchers for fantasy purposes...with that said why don't you challenge the person who started the thread to a 25 move challenge to see if what you are doing is better than what he is doing? It's only fair. Can't go around insulting people without proving that what you are doing is better than what they are doing IMO. That's how disagreements were settled here at SBR in the old days of CK, Dexter, Tex, roagbettor, robem215, cnleaf, and the Underground. Ask samsncharge about the SBR Legend CK
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