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  • mitchp
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-29-10
    • 227

    #1
    Shut Out System
    First let me say that I did not come up with this, I read this in another thread and thought it would be an interesting system to test and track. I have not tested this other than some visual review of a few teams during last season. I have no idea if it actually works, but somewhere I read that the record last year was 285-3.

    Here's how it work: Once a team is shut-out, you bet that that team will lose it's next game. If it doesn't, you chase it for up to 5 more games till it wins (6 game chase).

    Now I do not have the bank to do a 6 games, so I'm going to just run a separate labby per team for the season, while tracking the success of a chase.

    To date there have been 5 shut-out, all chases won on either the A or B bet.

    So we will start today, 4/7, there were two shut-out. Here is how I wil list things:

    4/7 - Boston (0-1), bet Yankees to win SU on 4/8 (A)
    4/7 - NY Mets (0-11), bet on Washington to win SU on 4/8 (A)

    If anyone has a better idea how to list the plays, I'm open to suggestions.

    Good Luck to me and all that follow.
  • winningdoc
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-27-09
    • 598

    #2
    "...you bet that that team will lose it's next game. If it doesn't, you chase it for up to 5 more games till it wins (6 game chase)"

    Just to make sure, you are always betting on the team after the shutout to lose or win at least one of the next six games? Sorry, the wording is a bit confusing
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    • ebbearsfb1
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-07-08
      • 18815

      #3
      there we go i made a post about this this afternoon
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      • ebbearsfb1
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-07-08
        • 18815

        #4

        Bet Against a team off scoring 0 runs. This is a 6gm Chase. I like this system the best due to the fact it has only had 3 losses in 3 yrs and we only omit 3 teams.
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        • ebbearsfb1
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-07-08
          • 18815

          #5
          there is also another one where you

          Bet On a team off allowing 0 runs. This is a 5gm Chase.
          im gonna be tracking both, 4 plays in total tomorrow
          fading red sox and mets
          tailing indians and phillies
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          • mitchp
            SBR High Roller
            • 07-29-10
            • 227

            #6
            I am going to bet that after a team is shut-out, that team will lose one of it's next 6 games. You could also do the opposite and bet that that team win a games within 6 games, but I understand that it doesn't earn as many units that way.
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            • mitchp
              SBR High Roller
              • 07-29-10
              • 227

              #7
              EB,

              Who are the three teams you should omit?

              Mitch
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              • Stevedore
                SBR MVP
                • 11-10-10
                • 1218

                #8
                If you run a labby betting system on this and you have two plays for the day on the against system do you have two separate labby lines for each chase or combine them into one?
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                • ebbearsfb1
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-07-08
                  • 18815

                  #9
                  I took out the 3 teams to omit, just copied it over... not gonna omit anyone cause from year to year u don't know who is gonna be good or bad.. steve I'm just using a regular labby set up and if both lose then id add one to row a. And one to row b if they both win just take out the whole top row, I'm at work or id show u better how I do it...
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                  • mitchp
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 07-29-10
                    • 227

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Stevedore
                    If you run a labby betting system on this and you have two plays for the day on the against system do you have two separate labby lines for each chase or combine them into one?

                    I'm running a different for each team
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                    • Stevedore
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-10-10
                      • 1218

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                      I took out the 3 teams to omit, just copied it over... not gonna omit anyone cause from year to year u don't know who is gonna be good or bad.. steve I'm just using a regular labby set up and if both lose then id add one to row a. And one to row b if they both win just take out the whole top row, I'm at work or id show u better how I do it...
                      Thanks for the response bro. When you get the time would love to see it. Is it more aggressive that way? I'm thinking of doing a three numbered labby 30-30-30 Also, are you doing both systems, for and against? Curious how betting ON a team has fared over the years as far as the 5 game chase goes. The other system as mentioned here has only 3 losses in 3 years.

                      Anyway, I'm sure most are on the Yanks +125 today and the Indians +124, Phillies -104 if you're playing the ON system.
                      I'm playing both.
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                      • Stevedore
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-10-10
                        • 1218

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mitchp


                        I'm running a different for each team
                        O.k., that's what I might do. New to Labby betting, not sure how I should go about it.
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                        • ebbearsfb1
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-07-08
                          • 18815

                          #13
                          I was thinking of doing it different for each team but... if it goes to 5 games and ur doing labby lines and it hit and u just end the series u will have lost money....
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                          • mitchp
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 07-29-10
                            • 227

                            #14
                            Labby

                            Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                            I was thinking of doing it different for each team but... if it goes to 5 games and ur doing labby lines and it hit and u just end the series u will have lost money....

                            Good point, will have to play out some scenarios.
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                            • Stevedore
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-10-10
                              • 1218

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                              I was thinking of doing it different for each team but... if it goes to 5 games and ur doing labby lines and it hit and u just end the series u will have lost money....
                              So what you're saying is you'd end your labby when the chase is over even if your labby isn't complete? Why not carry over your incomplete labby to the next chase and start a new labby only when it's completed?
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                              • ebbearsfb1
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-07-08
                                • 18815

                                #16
                                April 8th, 2011 (Red Sox and Mets were shut out on April 7th)
                                1) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML + 107 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 21.40
                                2) New York Mets vs. Washington Nationals + 135 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 27


                                10-10-10-10-20
                                x-10-10-x


                                this is out im doing it




                                cause steve if your doing every team with a single labby set up then your gonna have a lot of labby lines


                                as you'll see with mine tomorrow i will fade the sox to win 30

                                and if a new team joins then i'll do them for 20
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                                • ebbearsfb1
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-07-08
                                  • 18815

                                  #17
                                  basically if your carrying it over your doing the same thing im doing and not checking for teams
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                                  • mitchp
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-29-10
                                    • 227

                                    #18
                                    So we won one and lost one today, not bad. So pending any shut outs, we have at least one bet tomorrow- let's go Yankees. I will post official record and all of tomorrows game later tonight
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                                    • ebbearsfb1
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-07-08
                                      • 18815

                                      #19
                                      looks like this mitch

                                      April 8th, 2011 (Red Sox and Mets were shut out on April 7th)
                                      1) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML + 107 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 21.40
                                      2) New York Mets vs. Washington Nationals + 135 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 27
                                      Overall: 1-1 System: 1-0

                                      10-10-10-10-20
                                      x-10-10-x
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                                      • ebbearsfb1
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-07-08
                                        • 18815

                                        #20
                                        if we were truly chasing fading sox would be to win 40


                                        or if your trying to win 20 bucks each set, you could do them to win 33,
                                        since this way im up 7
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                                        • playr101
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-16-10
                                          • 2029

                                          #21
                                          looks interesting..

                                          -playr101
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                                          • ebbearsfb1
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-07-08
                                            • 18815

                                            #22
                                            tailing phillies again tomorrow
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                                            • ebbearsfb1
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-07-08
                                              • 18815

                                              #23
                                              yankees are around +130 tomorrow, and

                                              phillies -110,


                                              very nervous about the red sox
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                                              • mitchp
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 07-29-10
                                                • 227

                                                #24
                                                I have confidence in the Yankees to win one of their next two games, not sure where the Phillys come into it (not a play in this system). Possible play in the LAD/SD game, the score is 1-0 in the 4th. I'm not going to make it till the end of the game so I'll post back in the morning.

                                                Night to all
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                                                • mitchp
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 07-29-10
                                                  • 227

                                                  #25
                                                  Only one bet today, that would be on the Yankees ML (+130 - Betus). This is a B bet if you are Chasing.

                                                  Good Luck to all!
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                                                  • Betting Guru
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-24-09
                                                    • 648

                                                    #26
                                                    I like this system and think u will be successful with this. I will continue to follow and will play the Yanks today as well.
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                                                    • mitchp
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 07-29-10
                                                      • 227

                                                      #27
                                                      Nice to have you along! There's not a lot of action, you can expect about 12-15 shut outs per team per season, and not a lot of cross over. So you won't have big dollars on the line at any one give point. But, with 30 teams (I think), the end of season unit total shold be pretty nice.

                                                      I supplement this system with two or three others: Yankees (will win 1 of 3 games in a 3 games series), DaBA 1st Inning Favorite Chase, and JM Baseball Chase (team will win 1 of 3 games against a team that has previously shut them out).
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                                                      • ebbearsfb1
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-07-08
                                                        • 18815

                                                        #28
                                                        phillies are a play iin they shut someone out system
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                                                        • ebbearsfb1
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-07-08
                                                          • 18815

                                                          #29
                                                          these are the plays and system up to date this year

                                                          Sys #1 - 4 - 3 +3.05 UNITS

                                                          Sys #2 - 5 - 5 +3.85 UNITS


                                                          4/9/11- NYY +130............ 1.5/1.95 (sys #1)

                                                          4/9/11- Phily -110............ 2.37/2.15 (sys #2)
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                                                          • soldier1047
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 10-26-10
                                                            • 332

                                                            #30
                                                            Bol
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                                                            • mitchp
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 07-29-10
                                                              • 227

                                                              #31
                                                              EB,

                                                              I didn't realize we were tracking both systems - I now understand why Philly is a play.

                                                              Thanks
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                                                              • playr101
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-16-10
                                                                • 2029

                                                                #32
                                                                Good win

                                                                -playr101
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                                                                • ebbearsfb1
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-07-08
                                                                  • 18815

                                                                  #33
                                                                  April 9th, 2011(continue Red Sox Fade)
                                                                  3) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML chase 1 Risk 30 to Win 39
                                                                  Overall: 2-1 System : 2-0 Up 46


                                                                  April 9th, 2011 (Tailing Philadelphia)
                                                                  3) Philadelphia Phillies -108 vs. Atlanta Braves Chase 2 Risk 37.5 to Win 35
                                                                  Overall: 2-1 System: 2-0 Up 31
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                                                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-07-08
                                                                    • 18815

                                                                    #34
                                                                    2-0 today mitch and playa
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                                                                    • Stevedore
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-10-10
                                                                      • 1218

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                                                                      April 8th, 2011 (Red Sox and Mets were shut out on April 7th)
                                                                      1) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML + 107 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 21.40
                                                                      2) New York Mets vs. Washington Nationals + 135 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 27


                                                                      10-10-10-10-20
                                                                      x-10-10-x


                                                                      this is out im doing it




                                                                      cause steve if your doing every team with a single labby set up then your gonna have a lot of labby lines


                                                                      as you'll see with mine tomorrow i will fade the sox to win 30

                                                                      and if a new team joins then i'll do them for 20
                                                                      Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                                                                      2-0 today mitch and playa
                                                                      Thanks for the explantaton. The way I played it today with the Phillies was to do a full chase with no labby and used the labby with the Yanks. Kind of weird I know, but thats what I did. My unit size is $60.

                                                                      Philly -134 to win $120 after they lost yesterday. Yanks 90 to win $107. Both winners
                                                                      30-30-30-60
                                                                      X-30-30-X

                                                                      For those that played these systems last year, how many chases involved 3+ games?
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