******* Cubs are killing us again. Have we been on the right side of a Cubs series this season?
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yeah I agree wallco and not to repost another wasteful reply I wasnt trying to rail you on the earlier post that me and you conversed on you just so you know its I get tired of JM s hit is all and people being totally confused about how JM does things
especially when thats supposed to be JM job to do so
kind of like right now when JM sends out his plays he needs to stick to a certain line when he sends out so WE ALL know where we stand with the bet not some taking the alt line and others taking the ML you know what I meanComment -
If you play the system by the rules, you know where you stand - the play was on Padres +1.5.
If you choose to take better odds as a system tweak then that's each persons individual decision to make, but as was stated by Hagball, when the fav/dog is not obvious, always take the +1.5 rather than the ML.
Bad luck to those that took the ML...Comment -
Hmmm hagball, just a question... when JM rules said to take alt runline then why did your post say to bet on the ML? I didn't have much time to review the bets today so I just followed with MLComment -
quoting Hagball's post below:
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Next Plays
Official
(8/02/2011) St Louis (.494) @ Milwaukee (.509) R/L (B) (8/03 (C) if necc.)
(8/02/2011) San Diego (.478) v LA Dodgers (.484) M/L (B) V2 (8/03) (C) if necc.) **
(8/02/2011) Kansas City (.479)v Baltimore (.482) M/L (A) (3 gm set (C) if necc.)
**Also SDG is a slight favorite so according to JM's rules you should take them +1.5 on the alternate run line.
Upcoming Plays
(8/05/2011) Cleveland @ Texas
(8/05/2011) Seattle @ LA Angels
(8/05/2011) Houston v Milwaukee
(8/05/2011) NY Yankees @ Boston *
Notes: Rough night for everyone last night. JM, Wallco and me. Even the almighty G had a loss. It opens the door for a great day today.This is where all of JM's B.S. rules get confusing. SDG is a V2 play which makes them a real strong play but yet they are only a slight favorite (under -115) so according to his bevy of filters you shoud bet them alternate run line which would put the juice through the roof. Personally I think STL and SDG are going to win a game so I will play them money line. If you wish to play by JM's rules go ahead and lay all that money out there he's having a great year. GL all
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hmm I wonder how long it is gonna take G to get in here and and start shitting on people about the fact that there was a couple losses today with Wallco. I’m surprised he has not already been in here showing how huge of a spanner he is.Comment -
I didnt just so u know I took the alt runline as well waited til closer to gametime to get a better line and I think I did b/c it went from -250 to -200 which is good
but we shouldnt have to bet it like that quite frankly so we have to have keep our heads on a swivel to see when the team we are betting on is a slight fav then u have to look at both lines......which isnt right
like I said before thats major BS JM needs to address this by telling us which way to bet when he sends us the daily email link pure and simple not just say.......
oh 8/2 San Diego (A)
LA Dodgers
you say San Diego take the +1.5 runline if available if not then bet the alt line b/c those of us who do other things besides watching betting lines all day dont remember that little rule about this or that especially across all the different sports systems that are out there......
again its JM job to do so b/c after all isnt that what he got "supposedly" paid for no?Last edited by NZT-48; 08-03-11, 01:06 AM.Comment -
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ken23lau:Yes, it does, but it also has ** at the end of the line to draw the reader (you, that is) to the note only 2 lines lower, which says:you read it, does it not say ML?The SDG series is now over and its a definite win for the JM system, whatever anyone might think otherwise. Chalk it up Hagball.**Also SDG is a slight favorite so according to JM's rules you should take them +1.5 on the alternate run line.Comment -
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As I have stated several times before, the latest version of the MLB system makes no mention of the alternate run line. It simply states to bet the +1.5 if it's available, otherwise bet the ML. I know it was there before, but he quietly eliminated it. You can follow it if you want, but the it's not the JM system as it is today. Not to say JM won't add it if SD loses the series and then use it to eliminate a loss in typical JM fashion, but as of the time of this post, it is not in there. If I am completely blind and am missing it, someone click on the link below and tell me where it is.
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St Louis did pull it home after some dramatic turn overs
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wilba...I see one of the systems in here is 4-13 the last two days...and suffered another D loss and several lost a ton of money again and the system is down alot again...
I just hope people have heeded my warnings and it seems the thread has pretty much turned off on the one thread and returned to a JM thread anyways... So I have nothing to say at all... I feel sorry for those that got buried and that is it...hopefully if any are still following it they used their better judgement and have since pulled back or quit playing it all together...
Hopefully they have their own plays or are playing another system that has helped them stay afloat...sorry to see what happened..but at least the idea of the system in this thread being something anyone would pay for is over... Maybe the person behind the system has some explaining to do...that is up to you guys...do not drag me into it...I hope you all bounce back....not any of my money being lost in here...its yours... Seriously any of you that got caught up in the massive losses...including Wallco hopefully you guys get your $ back down the road...do not involve me in these losing ways though...he can answer for himself... why bring my name up? Rhetorial question do not answer...you guys I can see have enough problems to figure out...GLComment -
Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 164-13 (v2: 19-2)
System profit/loss: +9.43 units (finished series)
Since my first post: -10.84 units (149-13) (fin. series)
Current open series: 4 (-17.61 units)
(8/2/11):
#173 N.Y. Mets (-1½) v2 (D) - Loss
#174 Pittsburgh (-1½) v2 (C) - Loss
#176 Cincinnati (M/L) (B) – Win
#177 Cincinnati (-1½) (B) - Win
#178 N.Y. Yankees (M/L) (B) - Win
#179 Colorado (M/L) (B) - Loss
#180 Pittsburgh (M/L)(B) - Loss
#181 Pittsburgh (-1½) (B) - Loss
(A) 88-93
(B) 39-48
(C) 22-25
(D) 12-12
Games for (8/3/11):
#174 Chicago Cubs @ Pittsburgh (M/L) v2 (D) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
#179 Philadelphia @ Colorado (M/L) (C) *Official* (3:10 pm EDT)
#180 Chicago Cubs @ Pittsburgh (M/L) (C) (7:05 pm EDT)
#181 Chicago Cubs @ Pittsburgh (M/L) (C) (7:05 pm EDT)
#182 N.Y. Yankees (-1½) @ Chicago White Sox v2 (A) *Official* (8:10 pm EDT)
#183 Philadelphia (-1½) @ Colorado v2 (A) *Official* (3:10 pm EDT)
#184 Arizona (M/L) @ San Francisco v2 (A) *Official* (3:45 pm EDT)
** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.
The v1 plays may change to the other team by game time. The v2 plays will not change teams, but may change (M/L) or (R/L), the team will usually remain the same. Once Official, nothing will change. We have to be careful when playing a game that qualifies for both v1 and v2, because if a team should switch, we may be playing both sides later in the series, or we could even start out on both sides. The system will count all games as wins/losses, how you play them is your discretion. If not otherwise marked, the play will be v1.Last edited by Wallco99; 08-03-11, 02:12 PM.Comment -
JM MLB System
2011 Official season series record 19-1 (v1) (1 series pending)
(A) 11-10
(B) 6-3
(C) 2-1
V2 plays 6-4
V3 system 3-1
Unofficial series 23-0
Official
(8/02/2011) St Louis (.494) @ Milwaukee (.509) R/L (B) Win
(8/02/2011) San Diego (.478) v LA Dodgers (.484) M/L (B) V2 Loss
(8/02/2011) San Diego (.478) v LA Dodgers (.484) Alt. +1.5 V2 Win **
(8/02/2011) Kansas City (.479)v Baltimore (.482) M/L (A) Loss
**Also SDG is a slight favorite so according to JM's rules you should take them +1.5 on the alternate run line.
Next Plays
Official
(8/03/2011) Kansas City (.477) v Baltimore (.483) M/L (B) V2 (8/04 (C) if necc.)
Optional
(8/03/2011) San Diego (.477) v LA Dodgers (.484) M/L (C)
Upcoming Plays
(8/05/2011) Cleveland @ Texas
(8/05/2011) Seattle @ LA Angels
(8/05/2011) Houston v Milwaukee
(8/05/2011) NY Yankees @ Boston *
Notes: I apologize if I confused anyone with yesterdays post. I'm pretty sure when JM's email comes in he'll call it a win. He may also make a note to continue on with the (C) bet. He's done that in the past. If you played SDG +1.5 congrats. I did not so I will play them out today. I have already scored it as a win along with the V2 play as a win also. I know this is getting a little mixed up but I'm really trying to keep it as accurate as possible. The only time I'll go against JM is when he comes in after the fact and changes the result like he did with that Yankees/Red Sox series. Thanks to Andy for the post on the rules. I know you said the alternate run line issue is not in his current publication of rules but if it's in there at all you know how it will go. I haven't recieved his email yet so this is how I'll leave the post for now. If it comes in different I'll go back and edit. I'm putting up some coloring in the post so to draw attention to special items so you don't miss anything. Kenlau I'm sorry if it cost you but I'll try and get all the information out there. That all being said both plays look solid today and I will play them both. GL all
* On that NYY/BOS series I'm not sure if Morrison will call it a play because that was the second time the Yanks were swept this year by the Sox. A few people have mentioned it won't be a play but I have seen in the past where it is. We'll wait and see what JM does. Personally I think it will be a great play even if it's not a Morrison play. Sweeping a good team 3 times in a row is next to impossible.Comment -
Wallco, quick question... Your Vers 2 record is 19-2? And today you have Pitts, CWS, Col & SF all as V2 plays?
Does the 19-2 record count as the series or the game? Sorry for the questions, I been reading & following you for a while and am liking it, thought I might as well throw my 2 cents in. Also I had the yanks yest on the ml for -110,, I think when ever the line is that low for the yanks ya have to take'em.Comment -
I may be unavailable later when JM's email comes in so if anyone that's online when it arrives please post. Thanks in advance.
P.S. with all the confusion going on in the JM post I forgot to mention there are 6 possible sweeps today. I will update in the morning.Last edited by hagball52; 08-03-11, 08:33 AM.Comment -
Hey Wallco,
Any suggestions on playing #179 & #183 (Philly @ Colorado)? They could both lose, but they can't both win. I'm inclined to skip one of them; it's just a question of which one.Comment -
I feel like I'm on every game today and both sides on half those
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[quote=Andy3568;10905132]Hey Wallco,
Recalculating....Last edited by Wallco99; 08-03-11, 01:14 PM.Comment -
Have a good day guys...systems should be clear and understandable and plays should not be cris-crossing...Comment -
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has JM sent out his official email yet? wanted to see how he scored that Padres game last night since this is only a 3 game set
which is good so we dont have those phony D bets coming out of the blue like we did once before this season with the Padres lameoComment -
question for anyone who has access to backtesting software. i think oklahoma was able to help out last time. there is a "66% best pitcher" system out there that seems to have had good success this year (46-23). chillidog and a few others have referenced it, but i havent seen any backtest. does anyone have the numbers on this system?Comment -
Hagball, it's ok I know you're trying your best to be as accurate as possible with this JM douche anyways. Let's get them today thenComment -
Probably not the best time to start a system at this point...tired arms...teams out of the race..teams willing to "give" teams a win or two for entertainment value...
Do you know what the 66% involves...obviously if based on the top pitchers expect high juice....with 23 losses a reverse might also work...Comment
LOL. You're right Wilba. What a spanner mrs G is 
