John Morrison 2011 MLB

[Andy3568]

I don't think there are any bets today unless there are some series starting. Both the "A" bets last night won.

[Wallco99]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 109-9
System profit/loss: -8.95 units(finished series)
Since my first post: -29.22 units (94-9) (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(6/24/11) Boston (M/L) (D) – Loss
(6/24/11) Boston (-1½) (D) – Loss
(6/24/11) Seattle (-1½) (D) – Win
(6/24/11) Washington (M/L) (A) – Win
(6/24/11) San Diego (M/L) (A) – Win


(A) 60-58
(B) 25-33
(C) 14-19
(D) 10-9


There are no system plays for (6/25/11 – 6/26/11)

[thelimit0310]

Yeah, as I expected, finished for the weekend. System is down 9 units this season! Lets hope things turn around when we start back up, the system has been unforgiving this month. 2 losses at the end of May, so this month we've had 7 D losses! SEVEN! That's how much losses the system had in total a a couple years ago. I blame interleague! Hope our luck turns around, have a good weekend everybody!

[Glada Tartan]

Boston as B-bet today!

[pagodo]

You're Welcome!
IceBet

IceBet,

Can't thank you enough for sharing your spreadsheets with us in this thread.
I should think about changing my username to I.B. Disciple
Best of luck with your O/U lines and all other endeavours!

No plays from Wallco in the next 48 hours.
What an unfair world.
There should be new series starting every day.

Maybe JM will send another e-mail today ... or maybe he's busy doing his painstakingly thorough research on the best handicappers in the world.

[J.M. Disciple]

EyeBall: Appreciate the maturity. I'm glad that little disucussion ended quickly.

As for me im just going to be doing random bets today that I like using the labby and hopefully everything goes well. Trying to get some early action on Yankees game. Last 2 days with Wallcos system and my picks +13 units. Need keep this pace up and grind all day.

OH for GrandSalami prop. I was wondering what that was; on betus it shows O/U at 124.5. What exactly does that mean?

[mikey360]

EyeBall: Appreciate the maturity. I'm glad that little disucussion ended quickly.

As for me im just going to be doing random bets today that I like using the labby and hopefully everything goes well. Trying to get some early action on Yankees game. Last 2 days with Wallcos system and my picks +13 units. Need keep this pace up and grind all day.

OH for GrandSalami prop. I was wondering what that was; on betus it shows O/U at 124.5. What exactly does that mean?

GrandSalami is combined runs from all games on the day I think.

[Wallco99]

I am working on a new crop of criteria which may open up many more plays in this system, a few more of them will be (-money) bets than we are used to, but my testing through this season and half of last year looks pretty strong. I will not incorporate any of this into MLB PLU$$$ until I have seen at least 10 years of results. There is one active play which meets the criteria of this testing. I will not post this play at this time.


If deemed unsuccessful, I will share that info. with everyone immediately. Good luck.

[ionutt79]

GL today

[G's pks]

Yeah, as I expected, finished for the weekend. System is down 9 units this season! Lets hope things turn around when we start back up, the system has been unforgiving this month. 2 losses at the end of May, so this month we've had 7 D losses! SEVEN! That's how much losses the system had in total a a couple years ago. I blame interleague! Hope our luck turns around, have a good weekend everybody!

Actually just to clear this up...the system on plays posted here is down 30 units right? If I am wrong correct me...do not follow every day...but it seems by the title those other plays were not posted here...

[G's pks]

Wallco so the plays marked official are not official and you are posting plays that do not count...because it is experimental...what are the results as far as you have back tested... Obviously I am sure you took a large enough sample before you started posting... if not when will this sample be done? Kind of risky if you feel the sample size is not large enough but you start posting...

GL with KC tonight ...I see you could use a few wins...even if they do not count...

[Wallco99]

Wallco so the plays marked official are not official and you are posting plays that do not count...because it is experimental...what are the results as far as you have back tested... Obviously I am sure you took a large enough sample before you started posting... if not when will this sample be done? Kind of risky if you feel the sample size is not large enough but you start posting...

GL with KC tonight ...I see you could use a few wins...even if they do not count...

You are probably right, I will pull that game out, I am testing three different scenarios, and all look good. Results keep changing for the better, so I am not going to list results at this time. The KC play looked good in all 3 scenarios, but it probably is too premature to put that up. Was just trying to feed a transient junkie if one was passing through. Thanks.

[G's pks]

You are probably right, I will pull that game out, I am testing three different scenarios, and all look good. Results keep changing for the better, so I am not going to list results at this time. The KC play looked good in all 3 scenarios, but it probably is too premature to put that up. Was just trying to feed a transient junkie if one was passing through. Thanks.

I just think if you list a play and people are looking to bet on it...it is a play...which makes it official...maybe a better term would be a lean...which like you said provides some of the action junkies with the extra plays they need...

I know the feeling after a few big losses how you want to bounce back right away... Still half the season left...a little more..GL with your plays the rest of the way...

I backtested several basketball systems last year that were so close..I put so many hours in and wanted to list...but as you can see it is a great crowd when you are winning and can be brutal when you are not...GL with the bounce back...

[SUPEREAGLE43]

What do you labby guys think about running this system the regular way and also opposite, Anti-Wallco?

[J.M. Disciple]

What do you labby guys think about running this system the regular way and also opposite, Anti-Wallco?

I was thinking about it and it would work since he is hitting 50%. However, I dont see the point in it because his plays are +$$ bets where we would have to take -$$ bets, there for the labby lines would clear just as fast following his system as ours, but our lines would be much bigger due to juice. People are considering fading because it is a rough patch. It will still come out ahead eventually.


Also Thanks Mikey for answering my grandsalami question.


I was looking at horse racing with the labby, but there are so many different horse races, i can't seem to find a website with the results or scores of the race. I like to see what place the horse came in and when the race is actually going on. I made a mistake today of betting on Patrick Hyland because betus.com said the fight was in like 30min or something... and here I am 4hrs later and my money is still pending. I dont know the results of the fight or when the fight is actually going to take place. Betus listed it at like 3:00ET i think.

If any of you know anything about horse racing and where to see all the race schedules / results please PM me. The labby is very lucrative and i want to grind and make as much money as possible with it. The faster the bets come in and are over with the better.

Thanks
--jmd

[dc0106]

I just put $1000 in my account. I would love to turn a profit. Thinking of riding with your system.

[J.M. Disciple]

I just put $1000 in my account. I would love to turn a profit. Thinking of riding with your system.

I have a ton of bets with my system. I would do a conservative labby system if i were you and follow my thread. Look for JMD thread.

I can almost gaurentee more profit then wallco's system, but you will need time through out your day to login and place bets a couple times a day.

[ok15533]

hey guyz sorry for your D loss

[ok15533]

xgame, you clearly need learn English (either that or you are retardedly stupid)

ps you are an absolute tool so stay outta here

hmm it look like you now have JM's disease, you lost now you blame it on english

[mikey360]

I was thinking about it and it would work since he is hitting 50%. However, I dont see the point in it because his plays are +$$ bets where we would have to take -$$ bets, there for the labby lines would clear just as fast following his system as ours, but our lines would be much bigger due to juice. People are considering fading because it is a rough patch. It will still come out ahead eventually.


Also Thanks Mikey for answering my grandsalami question.


I was looking at horse racing with the labby, but there are so many different horse races, i can't seem to find a website with the results or scores of the race. I like to see what place the horse came in and when the race is actually going on. I made a mistake today of betting on Patrick Hyland because betus.com said the fight was in like 30min or something... and here I am 4hrs later and my money is still pending. I dont know the results of the fight or when the fight is actually going to take place. Betus listed it at like 3:00ET i think.

If any of you know anything about horse racing and where to see all the race schedules / results please PM me. The labby is very lucrative and i want to grind and make as much money as possible with it. The faster the bets come in and are over with the better.

Thanks
--jmd

JMD

I used to bet on horses, but UK races, you could take a look at The Retirement Staking plan which is one of the most well regarded bankroll management methods for horses, that is considering you would be betting on +odds at lower strike rates.

Saying that though labby could probably work pretty good, but always good to look at the options available.

I used to bet on horses on Betfair, backing long shot horses moments before the race started where often odds would drift quite alot, you lose alot but you get good value.

Saying that though i'm sure US races are quite different to UK races and they may be a world apart.

[G's pks]

hey guyz sorry for your D loss

I do not play this system but... why are you so happy these guys lost so much money? Very odd... I could see if it was Sammy (samsincharge)...he has it coming...but Wallco is always polite and i am wondering why you are so hateful?

[J.M. Disciple]

JMD

I used to bet on horses, but UK races, you could take a look at The Retirement Staking plan which is one of the most well regarded bankroll management methods for horses, that is considering you would be betting on +odds at lower strike rates.

Saying that though labby could probably work pretty good, but always good to look at the options available.

I used to bet on horses on Betfair, backing long shot horses moments before the race started where often odds would drift quite alot, you lose alot but you get good value.

Saying that though i'm sure US races are quite different to UK races and they may be a world apart.

I am currently using betus.com and i see horse races on there all the time, but i dont really know how horses race. Anything that is head to head though labby will work on. Do they have horses that race 1 on 1? Also where do you see these scores at? I often see horse race listed at like Belmont park, so i google it, but i dont see the results posted. I think i might stick to wnba, nba, mlb, nfl, and a bunch of props similar to my system following these sports.

Do horses ever race 1 on 1?

Thanks JMD

[mikey360]

I am currently using betus.com and i see horce races on there all the time, but i dont really know how horses races. Anything that is head to head though labby will work on. Do they have horces that race 1 on 1? Also where do you see these scores at? I often see horse race listed at like Belmont park, so i google it, but i dont see the results posted. I think i might stick to wnba, nba, mlb, nfl, and a bunch of props similar to my system following these sports.

Do horses ever race 1 on 1?

I have no idea on US races, sounds very different to what i'm used to, on UK races its always lots of horses per race with some horses at 40 to 1 odds, favourite is usually 3 to 1.

[honeyeater]

there we go baby... big two out base hit... now felix needs to remember who he is and lock it down

I like how you clog this thread with play by play- you should be and internet announcer. I think everyone's following the game on their own.

[dlunc3]

guess negativity is your cup of soup huh? comments like the one you just made are what clog the thread if that is what you are worried about..

dont worry, you wont have to see it for much longer... keep betting 10% of your roll on three game chases just bc "it hasnt lost yet this yr".... as soon as your roll disappears, unfortunately im sure you will too. Have a nice night.. my apologies for "clogging" by talking about system plays

[honeyeater]

guess negativity is your cup of soup huh? comments like this clog the thread if that is what you are worried about

No I would not say that. It's not just you either. It's just a drag when I look for feedback on the JM system I have to go through pages of commentary about stuff that has nothing to do with the operational side of JM system. Like this stupid response to you. See how it works?

[dlunc3]

there are two threads in this system... JM and Wallco--- they are what should be talked about in the thread, and that was what I was talking about. If you are worried about clogging, the constant labby discussions are where I would start... I dont mind them, I am always up for learning something new, but for those that wanna stick strictly on topic, that is something for you to address.

[honeyeater]

guess negativity is your cup of soup huh? comments like the one you just made are what clog the thread if that is what you are worried about..

dont worry, you wont have to see it for much longer... keep betting 10% of your roll on three game chases just bc "it hasnt lost yet this yr".... as soon as your roll disappears, unfortunately im sure you will too. Have a nice night.. my apologies for "clogging" by talking about system plays

Well I guess I'm bored so I'll help clog. I have to laugh at your post- I obviously did not read my "other" post thoroughly or else you would know that 10% is for the day fav on pinnacle and I bet after the 3rd loss (so it's not a 3 game chase) AND I have been doing this for 3 years AND it's my only source of income. It's funny how sometimes people comment on stuff I say (why they care I have no idea) when I am one of the few people here that follows "systems" for a living. I love it when people tell me I'll "blow up my roll". I really do not get where they get their info from. That's all-

[dlunc3]

I have no problem with you... you normally seem very knowledgeable and like you know what you are doing... but this is a sports forum where the purpose is to talk about sports.... this particular thread is for JM and for Wallco--- no need for you to complain about people talking about JM plays or Wallco plays when again, THIS IS A JM AND WALLCO FORUM. There is much other not needed nonsense sometimes, I agree... but maybe you should have somthing to say about that rather then about what people say about Wallco or JM plays.

Regarding your post..."I bet to win 10% of my principle every bet. Because it's even and I start at bet 3 or higher my draw down is manageable (I have had 50% draw down before)"

Maybe I read it wrong.. but if not, hopefully you rethink yourself, bc you might be searching the papers for some employment opportunities very soon.

[IceBet]

IceBet,

Can't thank you enough for sharing your spreadsheets with us in this thread.
I should think about changing my username to I.B. Disciple
Best of luck with your O/U lines and all other endeavours!

No plays from Wallco in the next 48 hours.
What an unfair world.
There should be new series starting every day.

Maybe JM will send another e-mail today ... or maybe he's busy doing his painstakingly thorough research on the best handicappers in the world.

Wow I am honored! I am glad you have found them useful. Profit to all.

IceBet

[honeyeater]

I have no problem with you... you normally seem very knowledgeable and like you know what you are doing... but this is a sports forum where the purpose is to talk about sports.... this particular thread is for JM and for Wallco--- no need for you to complain about people talking about JM plays or Wallco plays when again, THIS IS A JM AND WALLCO FORUM. There is much other not needed nonsense sometimes, I agree... but maybe you should have somthing to say about that rather then about what people say about Wallco or JM plays.

Regarding your post..."I bet to win 10% of my principle every bet. Because it's even and I start at bet 3 or higher my draw down is manageable (I have had 50% draw down before)"

Maybe I read it wrong.. but if not, hopefully you rethink yourself, bc you might be searching the papers for some employment opportunities very soon.

No it's correct- It's the way I bet. Rarely do I let it get there but it happens. I'm a trader by nature and this is just another market BUT it is gambling. I hate it when guys say- "I'm not a gambler I'm a businessman" or whatever. We are all gambling and we all have gambling mentalities or else we would be putting our money in AAA Corporate Paper. So all those who say that are full of shit. I would NEVER expose trading positions for 10%. At times I've had portfolio exposure for that amount but on many different positions and that was extremely risky. But the difference with trading is you can exit a position and manage your risk. Sports Betting will always be riskier because it's truly zero sum. Once your in your in.
Now the reason I look for such high returns is because I manage other peoples money in Australia (where sports betting is legal). Because gambling is part of the culture it's much easier to market to clients. BUT guys who give me 50K want more then 30%-60% a month. So while I could easily make a return of 20% a month (which BEATS almost any investment out there at 120% a year) it is still sports betting. So for the risk involved they always want more or else they'll yank their cash. So At times I have to swing for the fences. This fund is not forever. I would like to show them I can make money and most likely next year have them move cash into a real fund. So I need to hit 80%-100% a month. Risky yes but to get ahead in life you take chances. Obviously I don't bet 10% every bet (that's the salesman in me talking) BUT on the FAV series I bet to win 10%! I hope it works to.

NOW THAT'S HOW YOU CLOG A THREAD!

[dlunc3]

No it's correct- It's the way I bet. Rarely do I let it get there but it happens. I'm a trader by nature and this is just another market BUT it is gambling. I hate it when guys say- "I'm not a gambler I'm a businessman" or whatever. We are all gambling and we all have gambling mentalities or else we would be putting our money in AAA Corporate Paper. So all those who say that are full of shit. I would NEVER expose trading positions for 10%. At times I've had portfolio exposure for that amount but on many different positions and that was extremely risky. But the difference with trading is you can exit a position and manage your risk. Sports Betting will always be riskier because it's truly zero sum. Once your in your in.
Now the reason I look for such high returns is because I manage other peoples money in Australia (where sports betting is legal). Because gambling is part of the culture it's much easier to market to clients. BUT guys who give me 50K want more then 30%-60% a month. So while I could easily make a return of 20% a month (which BEATS almost any investment out there at 120% a year) it is still sports betting. So for the risk involved they always want more or else they'll yank their cash. So At times I have to swing for the fences. This fund is not forever. I would like to show them I can make money and most likely next year have them move cash into a real fund. So I need to hit 80%-100% a month. Risky yes but to get ahead in life you take chances. Obviously I don't bet 10% every bet (that's the salesman in me talking) BUT on the FAV series I bet to win 10%! I hope it works to.

NOW THAT'S HOW YOU CLOG A THREAD!

That is the kind of clogging that i like to see... gonna send you a pm though so we dont clog anymore then necessary..

[dc0106]

OK. I will try it. I bet to win 500 today on the Phoenix Mercury and got lucky (I know it was a foolish bet to put half my money on it but it turned out good). It's found money but it just grew by 50%. I will be conservative from here on out and try your system.
Thank you.

[dlunc3]

sorry to clog the thread a little more... but quick question for all of your:

Do any of you bet or follow WNBA? I have heard that you can make good money betting it if you know what you are doing. Unfortunately, I dont... Is there any cappers that any of your follow that you might recommend?

[ken23lau]

dlunc3 have you been tracking WNBA? What's the next bet?