Won't the D bet be on the angels v athletics game?
John Morrison 2011 MLB
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touch04SBR Rookie
- 04-12-10
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#3081Comment -
Void 0SBR Rookie
- 08-28-09
- 25
#3082with a fourway system (A,B,C,D) the expected value is between B and C, if we have more bets "D" then something is wrong even if we are earning money.Comment -
BigBlue77SBR High Roller
- 02-26-09
- 200
#3084Milwaukee is .493 and Wash is .507. That is just within .15, so wouldnt that be official? But if Milwaukee loses the A bet, then the RPI will be more than .15 for B bet so maybe thats why Morrison made it unofficial?Comment -
GGPLAYERSBR MVP
- 03-26-09
- 2981
#3085Interesting Bos is the fav in this game. Clev has the best record in baseball and the best home record. I would rather have the +1.5 RL on this game. I may skip and see if it goes to a B bet. I know Masterson has hit a 3 game skid but in two of those games he only gave up 1 run.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#3086
"....something is wrong even if we are earning money".Last edited by Wallco99; 05-23-11, 08:33 AM.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#3087JM MLB System
2011 Official season series record 5-0 (v1)
(A) 2-3
(B) 2-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 1-0
Unofficial series 3-0
Next Plays
*Unofficial*
(5/23/2011) Boston (.516) @ Cleveland (.542) M/L (A) ( 5/24 (B) and 5/25 (C) if necessary)
(5/23/2011) Milwaukee (.493)vs Washington (.507) M/L (A) (5/24 (B) and 5/25 (C) if necessary)
Notes: Morrison is doomed by his own filter. Both of these series look very favorable for the previously swept teams. Just look at the odds. Boston's 3 best pitchers go in this series and they are favored today. Milwaukee is also a fairly heavy favorite today.
P.S. Out of a possible 8 sweeps yesterday there were 5 with 4 of them resulting in future plays. Get your JM calenders out and mark 'em down. We have:
OAK vs SFO (6/17)
CIN vs CLE (7/01)
SDG @ SEA (7/01)
COL vs MIL (7/14)
GL today everyone let's pick up some wins.Comment -
teeceeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-09
- 6296
#3088i guess it was never really discussed, rather implied, that we were playing on the braves and not against the angels. we should have a d play tomorrow at pittsburgh, if i'm not mistaken.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#3089Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 66-2
System profit/loss: +67.22 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +46.95 units (51-2) (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-7.00 units)
(5/22/11) Atlanta (-1½) (C) – Loss
(A) 36-33
(B) 14-19
(C) 10-9
(D) 6-2
Games for (5/23/11):
Oakland @ L.A. Angels (-1½) (D) *Official* (10:05 pm EDT)
Seattle @ Minnesota (M/L) (A) (8:10 pm EDT)
Seattle @ Minnesota (-1½) (A) (8:10 pm EDT)
** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.Comment -
teeceeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-09
- 6296
#3090that answers my question. thank you very much.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#3091You are right. The Morrison email came in late last night probably before the rpi was updated. It should actually be an official play but he sent it out as unofficial so we'll keep it that way. Now in the past Morrison has been known to re-post later in the day so if that happens anyone who gets a chance please put it up. I'm going to try and keep the JM page as accurate as possible. I know there will be issues down the road.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#3092Hagball, if you get a chance, can you post that whole JM list with these new plays again. I think I am missing something and can't find it. Thanks.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#3093
4/25 MIL v CIN Win [b] 4/26
5/02 LAA @ BOS Win [C] 5/04
5/03 SEA v TEX Win [A]
5/06 TAM @ BAL Win [A]
5/09 NYM @ COL Win [A]
5/09 CHW @ LAA Win [A]
5/13 SEA @ CLE Win [A]
5/13 BAL @ TAM Win [b] 5/14
5/23 BOS @ CLE
5/23 MIL v WAS
5/30 SEA v BAL
5/30 WAS v PHI
6/02 MIN @ KAN
6/03 CHW v DET
6/07 NYY v BOS
6/09 DET V SEA
6/14 DET v CLE
6/14 ARI v SFO
6/17 OAK v SFO
7/01 CIN v CLE
7/01 SDG @ SEA
7/04 STL v CIN
7/04 MIN v TAM
7/14 COL v MIL
7/14 BAL v CLE
7/22 SDG @ PHI
7/29 KAN v CLE
8/12 PIT @ MIL
8/12 ARI v NYM
8/15 SFO @ ATL
8/22 BOS @ TEX
9/09 PIT v FLA
9/12 HOU v PHI
The team on the left is the one to bet on. This is a running account on the JM MLB plays. It is every play and does not show R/L or M/L or official and unofficial. It’s just my personal updateable list. I’ll post it from time to time just so all of you can keep up. The JM MLB System page will have the scores broken down. Hope this helps.
P.S. If you noticed I cleared the 2 game sets off because we are done with them and I added the lone future play to the list.Comment -
DreJay25SBR High Roller
- 02-15-11
- 101
#3094Are the JM plays played according to the same rules as Wallco??Comment -
DreJay25SBR High Roller
- 02-15-11
- 101
#3095Are the JM plays played according to the same rules as Wallco?? I know this question has probably been asked before, or answered somewhere in the forum, so a simple yes or no would be fine or a reference to what post number so noone has to trouble themselves with an explanation. Thank you very much for your help...
Let's get this KA$H!!!!!!Comment -
Void 0SBR Rookie
- 08-28-09
- 25
#3096The only thing wrong is your negativity. If you honestly don't think +money bets will take longer to win, on average, than (-money) bets, then you really don't understand logic and odds. If you don't understand logic and odds, you shouldn't be wagering on sports. These bets are +money for a reason, it means they are not the favorite bets, which means they will take more attempts to win. The good thing is, the longer they take, the more we win if they hit, provided the odds stay somewhat similar. There are going to be several more (D) bets this season, if that is unbearable to you, you may want to make this your last bet in this system. Of all the quotes I have seen in these forums, that one by far takes the cake:
"....something is wrong even if we are earning money".
I was saying that it is important that in the long term expected value coincides with the average value in the distribution; where the average value did not match the expected value then it would be appropriate to make a shift of the curve in the direction of the actual average value.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#3097Are the JM plays played according to the same rules as Wallco?? I know this question has probably been asked before, or answered somewhere in the forum, so a simple yes or no would be fine or a reference to what post number so noone has to trouble themselves with an explanation. Thank you very much for your help...
Let's get this KA$H!!!!!!Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#3098No. Wallco's plays are totally different. He will post how the game should be played and he posts a lot of + money bets. JM's plays are M/L on favorites and R/L on underdogs and usually result in unfavorable odds. Some of us play them differently to avoid the high juice. All Morrison cares about is his flawless win/loss record and the rest of us care about the $$$$.Comment -
smclaurin2SBR Rookie
- 04-06-11
- 35
#3099How is everyone playing the JM picks today? I use 5 Dimes and they have alt lines but since BOS amd MIL are favs the +1.5 is -250 for BOS and -310 for MIL. I guess I'm just used to MLB Plu$$$ but with these odds, a series loss would be devastating...especially if , like you said Hagball, JM could only have around 30 picks this season. For the people who have played JM for a while, what are you doing today. 5 dimes even offers a +2.5 for around -510!!!! I'm sure that JM would love for me to take that one but WTF! This system is starting to make me sick to my stomach.
Sorry! I thought JM plays were always +1.5 if it was offered. I guess we are on the m/l today which makes me feel a little better.Last edited by smclaurin2; 05-23-11, 10:16 AM.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#3101I'm speaking only from a mathematical point of view, I'm not criticizing your system to do just my opinion because math is my profession.
I was saying that it is important that in the long term expected value coincides with the average value in the distribution; where the average value did not match the expected value then it would be appropriate to make a shift of the curve in the direction of the actual average value.Last edited by Wallco99; 05-23-11, 10:31 AM.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#3102How is everyone playing the JM picks today? I use 5 Dimes and they have alt lines but since BOS amd MIL are favs the +1.5 is -250 for BOS and -310 for MIL. I guess I'm just used to MLB Plu$$$ but with these odds, a series loss would be devastating...especially if , like you said Hagball, JM could only have around 30 picks this season. For the people who have played JM for a while, what are you doing today. 5 dimes even offers a +2.5 for around -510!!!! I'm sure that JM would love for me to take that one but WTF! This system is starting to make me sick to my stomach.
Sorry! I thought JM plays were always +1.5 if it was offered. I guess we are on the m/l today which makes me feel a little better.Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#3103The only thing wrong is your negativity. If you honestly don't think +money bets will take longer to win, on average, than (-money) bets, then you really don't understand logic and odds. If you don't understand logic and odds, you shouldn't be wagering on sports. These bets are +money for a reason, it means they are not the favorite bets, which means they will take more attempts to win. The good thing is, the longer they take, the more we win if they hit, provided the odds stay somewhat similar. There are going to be several more (D) bets this season, if that is unbearable to you, you may want to make this your last bet in this system. Of all the quotes I have seen in these forums, that one by far takes the cake:
"....something is wrong even if we are earning money".
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h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
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h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#3106Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 66-2
System profit/loss: +67.22 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +46.95 units (51-2) (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-7.00 units)
(5/22/11) Atlanta (-1½) (C) – Loss
(A) 36-33
(B) 14-19
(C) 10-9
(D) 6-2
Games for (5/23/11):
Oakland @ L.A. Angels (-1½) (D) *Official* (10:05 pm EDT)
Seattle @ Minnesota (M/L) (A) (8:10 pm EDT)
Seattle @ Minnesota (-1½) (A) (8:10 pm EDT)
** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#3107I play M/L on dogs and -1 1/2 on fav's in JM system. I may lose more often, but the wins pay more and I will NEVER lose more than 7 units on 1 series. At this moment, I am +6.08 units playing this way, and that is with a loss. If I was playing traditional way, I would be up 8 units, only 2 units more. I will catch up and pass the traditional # soon I hope, but if I lose again, no sweat.Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#3108No. Wallco's plays are totally different. He will post how the game should be played and he posts a lot of + money bets. JM's plays are M/L on favorites and R/L on underdogs and usually result in unfavorable odds. Some of us play them differently to avoid the high juice. All Morrison cares about is his flawless win/loss record and the rest of us care about the $$$$.Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#3109I'm speaking only from a mathematical point of view, I'm not criticizing your system to do just my opinion because math is my profession.
I was saying that it is important that in the long term expected value coincides with the average value in the distribution; where the average value did not match the expected value then it would be appropriate to make a shift of the curve in the direction of the actual average value.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#3110I just try to avoid the high juice bets as much as possible, one or two losses can be devastating in a system that has less than 50 plays per year. And the way this year is going, it seems the bad teams can sweep the good teams a lot easier than in years past.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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drvotipRestricted User
- 01-18-11
- 53
#3112Go AngelsComment -
Void 0SBR Rookie
- 08-28-09
- 25
#3113It 's just math, my sentence that you quoted as it is not ridiculous at all, those are called distributions of equilibrium and stationary processes. However, in a previous post I wrote that is a good way, rest assured that I will not give more advice, since you consider them ridiculous. Good luck and keep the good job!Comment -
peeiempeeSBR MVP
- 01-21-09
- 2750
#3114System Intergrity is on the Angels too. Last time a D bet and system intergrity was on the same play resulted in a semi-no sweater with the Rockies winning by 4 runs. Let's hope this trend keeps up tonite.Comment -
BigBlue77SBR High Roller
- 02-26-09
- 200
#3115Same here. What I do is if the ML is higher than -150 I will play the -1.5. RL. So I will play Boston ML since its only about -115 and Milwaukee -1.5 RL since the ML is about -170.Comment
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