Wallco, I am in it for the long haul and am not too concerned with one bad season out of 5. Just out of curiosity, how many units were lost in 2006? Thanks!
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smclaurin2SBR Rookie
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clamchowderSBR Sharp
- 02-26-11
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#457Who's posting the JM system plays here? Wallco, are you doing the Chase110 in MLB? BTW...your chase 110 in NBA kicks ass man.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#459Hagball52 will be running the JM MLB when the plays come up. I will be using his picks only as official. Unless of course he doesn't want to do it. But from what I've seen, it appears he does and that is cool with me. Thanks Hagball.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#460True. I will post all JM plays as they come up and will give rpi ratings and any filters JM wants to throw out there. I will mention whether or not it is an official play. I've been posting all sweeps as they happen and will repost when they become plays. AT this time the first play starts 04/25/2011.
On another note another rough night for me with my series plays. A couple went right down to the wire but unfortunately didn't end well. Today My Plays will be MIN and LAD. Those are now [C] bets with one more chance if they lose today and the [b] bets today are MIL, CIN, and BOS. Got a lot of bankroll out there right now. Could really use a good day. GL all
P.S. I hit with TEX last night.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#461Looks like the MIL game is a rainout. Not sure what to do about this one. More later.Comment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
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#463DPS bet on Cincy reds right?Comment -
KurtNorRestricted User
- 01-07-11
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#464Are these morrison picks or morrison wanna bes?Comment -
jcygts6SBR MVP
- 04-05-09
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#465Yes dps pick on cincy they lost by 3 or more last game when favored at home and are favored today. JM system hasn't started yet.DO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
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Maxi_EVSBR Wise Guy
- 05-11-10
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#466Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#467It is a system I created for NBA, not MLB. Better than JM's, in my opinion. Go to NBA thread, you will find it there, It will not be explained in here.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
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#468Hey Wallco to answer your question a few posts ago, most of us are in it for the long hall. Playing decent systems is kind of like making good investments, you will have some years that showed a loss, but looking long term any profit is a good profit. No one will kick a 50 dollar bill on the ground because it wasn't a benji.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#469First off I'll get to the JM info. There are 8 possible sweeps today. 4 in the AL and 4 in the NL. The first JM system play right now is on April 25th and the rpi looks real favorable at this time. If Wallco decides to present his system anytime soon we all could be very busy in a short while.
My Plays picked up 2 more wins yesterday putting me at 24-3 so far this season. That's the good news. The bad news is there are 2 [D] bets today with MIN and LAD. Also I'm staying with the MIL series. I usually bail on a series if there is a rainout or a major pitching change but I like the matchup in the early game today and I don't want to add another loss due to an incomplete series. I don't know what to think about the Twins, they should be up 2-1 in this series. Capps and Nathan couldn't pitch their way out of a bathroom right now. I thought about playing this game RL but that would be a copout just to get the win. Besides I don't think they are going to have another 1 run loss. Either Tampa will crush them or they man up and pull one out. GL allComment -
shinnmanSBR Sharp
- 02-25-11
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#471First off I'll get to the JM info. There are 8 possible sweeps today. 4 in the AL and 4 in the NL. The first JM system play right now is on April 25th and the rpi looks real favorable at this time. If Wallco decides to present his system anytime soon we all could be very busy in a short while.
My Plays picked up 2 more wins yesterday putting me at 24-3 so far this season. That's the good news. The bad news is there are 2 [D] bets today with MIN and LAD. Also I'm staying with the MIL series. I usually bail on a series if there is a rainout or a major pitching change but I like the matchup in the early game today and I don't want to add another loss due to an incomplete series. I don't know what to think about the Twins, they should be up 2-1 in this series. Capps and Nathan couldn't pitch their way out of a bathroom right now. I thought about playing this game RL but that would be a copout just to get the win. Besides I don't think they are going to have another 1 run loss. Either Tampa will crush them or they man up and pull one out. GL allComment -
dratk00lSBR Hustler
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bauerranchSBR Wise Guy
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#473LAD Hit in the bottom of ninthComment -
miabosSBR Hustler
- 09-16-10
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#474I`m new to this thread so I`ll try to do my best to make sense. I`ve been following JM threads along with others for about 4 months. I believe that JM mlb 2011 first official play starts on April 25/2011 MIL vs cin. I discovered some unofficial JM plays up 15+ units thus far. All of these teams were swept by their opposing team in their last meeting, last season, in either 3 or 4 game series. If you wagered on these unofficial JM plays on the moneyline you would be 15-0 right now. Apr 1 KC(B) vs laa, April 1 PHI(A) vs hou, April 1 SEA(A) vs oak, April 2 COL(B) vs arz, April 6 ARZ(C) vs chc, April 7 WAS(C) vs fla, April 12,13,14 PIT(no plays, rained out on april 12, 2 games only) April 13 FLA(B) vs atl, April 15 WAS(A) vs mil, April 15 FLA(A) vs phi, April 15 LAA(A) vs chw, April 16 CHC(B) vs col, April 16 NYY(B) vs tex, April 17 LAD(D) vs stl, April 17 NYM(C) vs atl, April 17 ARZ(C) vs sf. All of these teams were swept in their last meetings last year against their opponents. May the winners be yours! Good Luck everyone.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#475Wallco MLB system back to it's winning ways for 2005. Need a way around that tsunami of an '06 season.Comment -
clynnm17SBR MVP
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#477so what is the play for tomorrow?Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#4783 sweeps out of a possible 8. At least the 2 I needed to come through did. Anyways get your JM calenders out and mark down these 3.
CHW @ LAA 05/09/2011
MIL v WAS 05/23/2011
BAL v CLE 07/14/2011Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#479In My Plays I hit my 2 [D] bets. Man it felt good to get that much of my bankroll back. I hate [D] bets especially 2 on the same day. However, I did lose with Milwaukee and am now 26-4 with my series plays. 2 of those losses have been hampered by rain outs and 2 of those losses were by the Brewers. Any way I'm starting to see some patterns and trends, strengths and weaknesses of teams now that we're a couple weeks into the season. Hopefully I can dial in a little better and keep the losses at a minimum. I've got 4 or 5 series I'm looking at today, I'll post them soon.Comment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
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#480Ready to make some more money
I have been really liking Hagballs picks and made some profit tailing him, so many thanks, You know Your stuff !! Just waiting for Your picks for tonight.
Like so many others here, I appreciate Wallcos research and cant wait for him to reveal his system. 2006 might have been disastrous, but
with six other years showing profit, You should def publish and see how this season will fold out !! We have great faith in You
I love labby, but have abandoned it for now, as my bankroll is really really healthy and I can withstand chasing again
Both have its advantages, labby is great if Your bank is not that big and a great way to start. You concentrate more on clearing lines and the cash just sort of compounds lol.
Chasing on the other hand grows Your bank more aggressively and I noticed I really like the fact that it doesnt matter if I win or lose - as long as I am risking a small % of my bank. If I win, well, yay !! But should I lose, I like raising the risk and having a little more riding to regain faster.
Both methods are great and I always flag for labby if Your bank is on the smaller side, but to quote the grear Wallco
I like the big bugs ( as he stated for chasing )
Sorry, rambling, don`t mind me, haha,
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hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#481Okay got it. My Plays for this next series starting today are CHC, LAD, TEX, DET and I'm really gonna stick my neck out and put BAL in there also. The Orioles barely made the cut so maybe bet them small if you are interested. There are more series starting tomorrow and I will post tomorrow if I add them. GL all
P.S. Hey Wallco I've stumbled across something having to do with teams being swept and sweeping and what they do on their next series. It includes certain rpi levels and W/L percentage. I'm looking into it but I know what your up against about time consuming backtesting.
P.P.S. The Dodgers and Orioles are 4 game sets and I will play them out if needed.Last edited by hagball52; 04-18-11, 09:49 AM.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#482Alright, here is my final backtest results. I still plan on doing the 2004 season, but I think honest opinions from all of you can probably be derived from my data. There is a guy purchasing the rights from me, so he believes it can be a money maker even with the horrid 2006 season. I told him I will still be posting plays on here for a while as part of our deal. So it looks like the two months of work will pay off after all. I am still working on a few small bugs. Since 2005, including the few games that have been played in 2011, the system has amassed a profit of +551 units. This is an annual profit of 86 units, with 2011 currently at @ +20 units. Just turn your head when you get to 2006. I think all stock market results were similar that year also. I will post the (A) (B) (C) (D) when I tally them up.
2011: + 20 units (15-0) (No open series as of yesterday, 5 (A) bet plays for today).
2010: +151 units
2009: +174 units
2008: +201 units
2007: + 78 units
2006: -147 units
2005: + 74 units
Let me know what you think. There are five plays for today, if people want them posted I will do it closer to game times. Many times, our selections are based on certain teams, and other times, they are based on whoever is the dog or favorite in certain games. Some of our plays today fall into the bet the favorite category, and the lines on the game are close. The actual favorite could change by game time. I am working on a posting system so you will know which games these are, and you should wait until game time to put in your bets on some of them. This is to assure we are betting the right team. System wins and losses will be based on final lines at ScoresandOdds.com, and whoever they have listed as favorites or dogs will be what we go by, even if our personal books have it differently. If both teams are -105 and -105, there is certain bet criteria for this game, and I will address thet when it comes up. There may be a situation wher ScoresandOdds.com has a team listed as a favorite and your book has them listed as dog. If this is the case and the bet for the day is the favorite (-1 1/2) runs (based on scoresandodds favorite) then your play that day would be betting the dog with the alternate run line of -1 1/2, since they would be getting +1 1/2 with your book as the dog. This is to try to get the highest return on our money. I will tell you from my backtesting, the majority of the time we bet the favorite (S/U), they win on (A) or (B). However, some bets do go to (D), and yes, some lose. These are expensive, but there are never a lot per year. When betting the dogs and the Favorite (-1 1/2), a lot more bets go to (C) and (D), but this is really what we want. It may sound ridiculous, but a +160 team hitting on an 8 unit (D) bet pays a hell of a lot more than than a 1 unit (A) bet win. There are more losses in these categories, but the rewards are much higher and profit recovery is a lot quicker, and the max loss on a four game (+ money) chase is 15 units (almost all the time). This is some high paced action, with chance to lose money in large chunks. But the amount of action can make up for that quickly. I will say, if you are that player that will bitch and scream and start popping Xanax everytime there is a loss, DO NOT PLAY THIS SYSTEM, I do not want to hear it. There is risk, like anything else. and anyone who gets on the net and starts guaranteeing winning seasons is full of s##t. This is for real players only. I promise you, there will be losses, and some at the same time. This is like stock market wagering, there will be your bad days, and some cases bad years, but over the long haul, it's pretty damn good. I just need a good name for it, open for suggestions.Last edited by Wallco99; 04-18-11, 11:30 AM.Comment -
hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
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#483MLB plus $ systemComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#484Ready to make some more money
I have been really liking Hagballs picks and made some profit tailing him, so many thanks, You know Your stuff !! Just waiting for Your picks for tonight.
Like so many others here, I appreciate Wallcos research and cant wait for him to reveal his system. 2006 might have been disastrous, but
with six other years showing profit, You should def publish and see how this season will fold out !! We have great faith in You
I love labby, but have abandoned it for now, as my bankroll is really really healthy and I can withstand chasing again
Both have its advantages, labby is great if Your bank is not that big and a great way to start. You concentrate more on clearing lines and the cash just sort of compounds lol.
Chasing on the other hand grows Your bank more aggressively and I noticed I really like the fact that it doesnt matter if I win or lose - as long as I am risking a small % of my bank. If I win, well, yay !! But should I lose, I like raising the risk and having a little more riding to regain faster.
Both methods are great and I always flag for labby if Your bank is on the smaller side, but to quote the grear Wallco
I like the big bugs ( as he stated for chasing )
Sorry, rambling, don`t mind me, haha,
let`s get paid people
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teeceeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-18-09
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#485so what, exactly, are these plays based on, wallco? bad question? is there a post # i can reference? are you not allowed to say, b/c you sold the rights?Comment -
teeceeSBR Hall of Famer
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#487looks good. is cleveland a play on the -1.5 today?Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
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#488Not until he officially markets it. I am trying to get as much leeway for this forum as I can, and I can't totally slap him in the face just after he was so good to me. I did tell him I will be posting plays, and will try to provide as much info as possible without jeapordizing our deal. I understand people won't want to follow something blindly, but trust me in the fact that my numbers are accurate, and I will be placing the same bets. I will be making regular updates shortly, but for now, if you are uncomfortable, just follow the record and judge for yourself. You would not believe the amount of hours I have tied up in this, and the offer was just too good to pass up. He is also interested in Chase 110, fortunately you know that one already, and I worked out a deal that any forum member will get cash for sending people his way if he does buy it, that can be good for everyone in here. Not BS credit at some sportsbook like some other do. I am trying to find a way to at least get this system to you folks on here without causing too much damage, since we have all been in this together for a while. But for now, I can only post plays.Comment -
ross607SBR Hustler
- 02-18-11
- 62
#489Wallco, can I ask... you say you will be posting the plays here "for a while" will that extend for at least one full season? I'm just concerned about starting to wager on the system here and then the plays not being posted mid season or something because of your agreement. Not meaning that in a negative way btw, I am really pleased for you that you have made some money out of all the hard work you put in, it is greatly deserved I just wanna find out how many plays of the system you will be permitted to post free on here so I can workout what I'm going to commit unit size and sort out money management etc. ThanksComment -
hagball52SBR MVP
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