BoT = Bets on Target. Baseball Style

[Sonofagun]

Very, very rarely do i use -1 RL's.
I do use them a couple times a week, but dont post it because its hard for some people to follow. My reasoning? 75% of games are won by 2 runs. Therefore, I usually find the value of that other 25% to be very small in comparison to the price.

Thanks for the feedback, and I got a card I really like tonight comin up soon.

Thanks for answering. Where did u find the stat that 75% of games are won by 2 or more runs? And GL today

[chipski]

62 games have been decided by a run so far this season .
There have been 194 games played before today .

By your 25% I take it you mean in the past before this year , last year , year before .
I like your thinking .

What throws the 25% out the window is the team we have -1.5 might not be a one run game at all but is a straight up win for the dog .

I do agree it is fine to get the great odds giving up the 1.5 if you really like the matchup .

oops page skipped , dont miss the knowledge my man .

[Sonofagun]

oops page skipped , dont miss the knowledge my man .

Good stuff. Obviously it's fairly easy to get the percentage so far this year with the season just starting. But I was referring more to the whereabouts of stats from past couple years or so. But thanks

[chipski]

last year was last year . the % would be around 25% I'd say as a whole for the last 10 years .

[Saunders FTW]

gl tonight orange, and for the week

[BigOrangeTitans]

I am definitely summarizing with the 25% number. That is using prior years numbers. 62 out of 194 games is very close to 25%.

If you check my record this year with RL's its 50%+ which is all you need to make cash on +juice plays.

Good luck guys, and again, thanks for the feedback.

[BigOrangeTitans]

Boston (Wakefield) at Cleveland (Byrd) Money Line Cleveland +101 LOSS
Kansas City (Bale) at Seattle (Batista) Run Line Seattle -1.5 +163 WIN
Kansas City (Bale) at Seattle (Batista) Run Line 1H Seattle -0.0 1H -139 WIN
Kansas City (Bale) at Seattle (Batista) Total 1H Over 5.0 (KC/SEA) 1H +106 WIN
Minnesota (Baker) at Detroit (Robertson) Money Line Detroit -124 WIN
Toronto (Marcum) at Baltimore (Trachsel) Money Line Baltimore +125 LOSS

3-0 With baltimore looking like a loss, and cleveland lookin bad.
At least we made money today gents

UPDATE:
4-2 +2.69 UNITS

[diogee]

Excellent job on the Seattle game...damn you had that son of a bitch pegged. I usually don't follow anyone but once I saw how much you liked that game I couldn't resist. Thanks for the pick. Plus units is always a good thing. Best of luck tomorrow.

[BigOrangeTitans]

Excellent job on the Seattle game...damn you had that son of a bitch pegged. I usually don't follow anyone but once I saw how much you liked that game I couldn't resist. Thanks for the pick. Plus units is always a good thing. Best of luck tomorrow.

Dio, when I see a line thats off, I attack it on all sides man.

Also, I live in seattle(although n the hospital currently), and listen to mariners radio every day.

You'd be amazed how much local radio knows as far as how the team is doing and such.

That being said, I also had the Over on the game, but bought it late so couldnt/didnt want to post it 2 seconds before the pitch came out. I like posting plays people can follow.

[BigOrangeTitans]

4-2 today +2.69 Units
57-51 +26.04 units YTD

[OLGC_Slayer]

Bounceback! Another fine day from the BOTman.

[BigOrangeTitans]

Bounceback! Another fine day from the BOTman.

Thanks slayer.
Had to get back to the basics today as I began to outthink my self after the meltdown last night.

It worked out well

[BigOrangeTitans]

57-51 +26.04 units YTD
Early plays
Under 4 1st five SD/Zona +114
SD +165

[j$]

U mean Col not Zona right?

[Sonofagun]

U mean Col not Zona right?

naw, i'm pretty sure he meant SF

[diogee]

Good luck today Ben Oscar T.

[BigOrangeTitans]

U mean Col not Zona right?

No i did mean Zona. Fukkin giants just blew the under 1h in the top of the fifth.

[buztah]

No i did mean Zona. Fukkin giants just blew the under 1h in the top of the fifth.

Kok boy, you need to enjoy some True Lion Smokes next time you capp. That shit will get you on the winning track again.

[BigOrangeTitans]

under 5 1st half ny/bos +100
hou/philly Over 5.5 1H -104
det/cle over 5 1st 5 -115
mets/nats over 8 +100
fla +1.5 -120
Yankees RL +148 ****2 units****

Adding ATL/fla under 5 -125 1st five and chi/balt 1st 5 over 5.5 +115

[Sonofagun]

BOT, which book(s) do you use for those 1st 5 in plays?

[bigugly]

BOT, not trying to rip you or anything, but I don't think the lines you posted were exactly accurate considering their true availability upon the time of release. Even if some of those lines were still available, they may be available with only 10 or 50 dollars. I think in order to fairly post any lines it needs to be a little more widely available. To answer your question sonofagun, these lines were obviously from matchbook. BOT, I think you're a great guy and I don't think you're trying to post records unfairly, as you're certainly doing this for free and to help others, but when these lines are unavailable they are not so useful to others, and they are bound to wonder at what point you would still consider them plays. That said, I think lots of matchbook numbers going up on the forums are really not fair or realistic numbers, and they are certainly not verifiable perhaps even minutes after the posting. (Depending on liquidity.) Once again, I am not accusing you of any wrongdoing, but you may want to check in on line availability before posting the plays. This entire post is meant in only the kindest way. Keep up the good work!

[Sonofagun]

BOT, not trying to rip you or anything, but I don't think the lines you posted were exactly accurate considering their true availability upon the time of release. Even if some of those lines were still available, they may be available with only 10 or 50 dollars. I think in order to fairly post any lines it needs to be a little more widely available. To answer your question sonofagun, these lines were obviously from matchbook. BOT, I think you're a great guy and I don't think you're trying to post records unfairly, as you're certainly doing this for free and to help others, but when these lines are unavailable they are not so useful to others, and they are bound to wonder at what point you would still consider them plays. That said, I think lots of matchbook numbers going up on the forums are really not fair or realistic numbers, and they are certainly not verifiable perhaps even minutes after the posting. (Depending on liquidity.) Once again, I am not accusing you of any wrongdoing, but you may want to check in on line availability before posting the plays. This entire post is meant in only the kindest way. Keep up the good work!

No, Matchbook & 5 Dimes are the 2 books i use for baseball and i'm almost certain his 1st H plays weren't from matchbook, b/c they weren't even available. And the juice that 5dimes has on their 1st H plays are ridiculous compared to the lines that BOT was able to get at whichever book he uses. Hence the reason I ask so i can have another book in my arsenal. GL on your plays BOT

[chipski]

Damn , the man said he was in the hospital , give him a break .
Who cares what the gd line was , if he finishes the season +150.7 units or 145.4 what does it matter ?
Are there awards or $$$ for highest units on this biz ooc ?
I see this in alot of forums , people worried about someone posting a bad line and it looks okay at first but really get real man .
Whatever + or - units someone finishes at on a thread should be appreciated instead of people trying to find something wrong with a guys format .
I could understand if he was a paid handicapper on a payed site , his lines and units could be critiqued then for sure .
I just smoked one , so maybe I am being ... of course who gives a flying **** what you do or think if you not making $$$
Get them dollas baby , find the zone !!!!!
If I had a forum we would not worry about that ba ba bullshit!!!! We would post the shit on the walls and if # were wrong who gives a **** , as long as the team wins , that is all . yall

[Sonofagun]

Damn , the man said he was in the hospital , give him a break .
Who cares what the gd line was , if he finishes the season +150.7 units or 145.4 what does it matter ?
Are there awards or $$$ for highest units on this biz ooc ?
I see this in alot of forums , people worried about someone posting a bad line and it looks okay at first but really get real man .
Whatever + or - units someone finishes at on a thread should be appreciated instead of people trying to find something wrong with a guys format .
I could understand if he was a paid handicapper on a payed site , his lines and units could be critiqued then for sure .
I just smoked one , so maybe I am being ... of course who gives a flying **** what you do or think if you not making $$$
Get them dollas baby , find the zone !!!!!
If I had a forum we would not worry about that ba ba bullshit!!!! We would post the shit on the walls and if # were wrong who gives a **** , as long as the team wins , that is all . yall

Obviously u misunderstood what i said. I wasn't asking which books he uses to question his credibility. I asked him b/c his lines were far better than the 2 books i use (Matchbook & 5Dimes), so I just wanted to know which book he uses so i can create an account there and start saving money on the wagers that lose! But yea, i agree with u somewhat and i don't really care about a person's record keeping if they're off a couple units. As long as the teams are winning.

[bigugly]

I'm talking about significant differences and unavailability of said line. I'm not talking about 5 cents even. I saw the post just after he posted it and did not come up with some of these given lines.

I understand you did just smoke one, but I completely disagree with everything you said. I don't think BoT was trying to do anything wrong, but I do think what I posted was worth posting. I'm not trying to make him look bad in public...I could've just PM'd, but I was also trying to answer Sonofagun. I'm pretty sure matchbook is what he was referring to when he put out those lines.

[bigugly]

I think he usually has good lines that I can find, but tonight did really have me scratching my head. Sorry BoT, not trying to hijack your thread.

[BigOrangeTitans]

those are matchbook lines all at atleast 100$ bets.
I will provide a screenshot for ya after I'm done lookin over final stats on the late game.

[chipski]

Well all I know is if he is a real legitimate gambler then he should be given the benefit of the doubt and appreciated for simply being here . I know that sounds crazy . lmao
If this was a competition between you and him then I would understand better . The only thing I can see is that people are in comp with each other on here .... you said you didnt agree with anything I said when it all makes perfect sense to me .
True , a person should quote the current line , but honestly does it really matter if someone bets $112 to make $100 or $115 to make $100 ?
Thing is there are so many books and locals , with different lines changing every second . So is this was some sort of perfect messaging board everyone would have to post where they got the line ,,, I dont even feel like posting the line much less letting everyone know where the line is from .
Of course , you disagree , I might disagree this time next week and be into that bs myself . lol

[BigOrangeTitans]

To clarify, once my final plays are in, ill post you a screenshot of my current bets.

You can look up matchbook odds/numbers for anytime during the day, I just forgot where it was.

[BigOrangeTitans]

doesnt matter where i got the lines at this points, as most of the are la-whoooo-sers.

[Sonofagun]

To clarify, once my final plays are in, ill post you a screenshot of my current bets.

You can look up matchbook odds/numbers for anytime during the day, I just forgot where it was.

no need to provide the screenshots man. Nobody's callin u a liar here. I use matchbook also so that doesn't help me. I was hoping u use some other book where i can create a new account. That's one thing i hate about matchbook. Although they offer the best lines most of the times, some of the lesser played wagers like 1st 5 inning bets don't have enough money in them or the market for that wager hasn't even been created at all. BOL BOT

[BigOrangeTitans]

no need to provide the screenshots man. Nobody's callin u a liar here. I use matchbook also so that doesn't help me. I was hoping u use some other book where i can create a new account. That's one thing i hate about matchbook. Although they offer the best lines most of the times, some of the lesser played wagers like 1st 5 inning bets don't have enough money in them or the market for that wager hasn't even been created at all. BOL BOT

Not EVERY play is from matchbook(tonight it was, but i listed on page one on one of my first posts in this thread the books I use. Also, you can easily get a 200$wager out there on anything if you manipulate the bet a bit(i.e. 20$ on opposite side for a crazy price, and then say 120$ on the side you want. It works, believe me)

[BigOrangeTitans]

Late plays:
seattle over 7.5 -105
KC 1st half +145
dodgers -1.5 +127
Trying something i've been testing on paper.

Seattle 1st half -104
oak -1.5 +212

[BigOrangeTitans]

Adding Padres -1.5 +161

[BigOrangeTitans]

Making padres -1.5 +161 a ****two unit***** play