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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    Thoughts on FLA/STL line movement on total
    Fla/Stl (Sanchez/Garcia) opened at 8 ov -115 at Oly... It's is currently about 7.5 flat... this movement surprised me - I thought the fair total was closer to 9.2, and more often than not, the lines move my way with a discrepancy that big.

    I'm curious... why do you think this total dropped?
  • ZBOIZ
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-22-08
    • 21464

    #2
    Just go over
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    • Justin7
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-31-06
      • 8577

      #3
      Believe me, I bet the over (8). And I feel like an ass.
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      • PDW
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-14-10
        • 660

        #4
        Don't over think it.
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        • Sam Odom
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-30-05
          • 58063

          #5
          Originally posted by PDW

          Don't over think it.

          He wouldnt be a Math Guy if he didnt "over think it"
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          • rfr3sh
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-07-09
            • 10229

            #6
            id say cuz the public is hitting the under hard
            look at the consensus and then look at the juice before it got dropped

            5/19 9:39 PST -169 +159 -1.5 +129 +1.5 -140 OVER 8 +105 UNDER 8 -116
            5/19 9:46 PST -169 +159 -1.5 +129 +1.5 -140 OVER 8 +112 UNDER 8 -124
            5/19 9:49 PST -169 +159 -1.5 +129 +1.5 -140 OVER 8 +111 UNDER 8 -123
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            • playersonly69
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-04-08
              • 12827

              #7
              Most likely Hanley Ramirez wont be playing tonight
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              • Fishhead
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-11-05
                • 40179

                #8
                1. Two quality starters year to date

                2. Henley Ramirez very questionable

                3. The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Florida's last 6 games when playing on the road against St. Louis

                4.. Florida is 8-17 SU in its last 25 games when playing St. Louis
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                • losturmarbles
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-01-08
                  • 4604

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                  1. Two quality starters year to date

                  2. Henley Ramirez very questionable

                  3. The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Florida's last 6 games when playing on the road against St. Louis

                  4.. Florida is 8-17 SU in its last 25 games when playing St. Louis

                  you forgot to add

                  5. the total has gone under in 10 of florida's last 10 away games on wednesdays in may during an even number year.
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                  • nosniboR11
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-02-08
                    • 10042

                    #10
                    not to mention st louis has become an under haven this year
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                    • Panekkkk
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-12-09
                      • 2430

                      #11
                      1. Hanley should be back according to MLB.com



                      2. Garcia is ripping it up so far this year and Marlins have yet to see him throw. Garcia sporting 3rd lowest NPERA in the NL at 2.01, an xERA of 1.94, and an ERA of 1.42 and WHIP of 1.06.

                      3. Sanchez hasn't given up more than 2 runs in his last 5 starts and only Felipe Lopez has seen more than 2 AB's against Anibal.

                      So it's either shapin' up to be a pitcher's duel or Poojewels or Holliday are sitin'.
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                      • Panekkkk
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-12-09
                        • 2430

                        #12
                        I actually like Marlins RL :P
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                        • Marginalis
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-12-09
                          • 1862

                          #13
                          Originally posted by losturmarbles


                          you forgot to add

                          5. the total has gone under in 10 of florida's last 10 away games on wednesdays in may during an even number year.
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                          • Dank_Fire
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-13-09
                            • 2269

                            #14
                            Jamie Garcia has been unreal @ home thus far
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                            • Justin7
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-31-06
                              • 8577

                              #15
                              It looks like pulling Ramirez would drop the total about 0.4 runs. That's a risk of betting into overnights... but as mentioned, it looks like he will play. The market is still telling over 8.0 to go to hell though.
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                              • dodger33
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-14-09
                                • 3962

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Dank_Fire
                                Jamie Garcia has been unreal @ home thus far
                                This!
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                                • Bluehorseshoe
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-06
                                  • 14998

                                  #17
                                  I guess my totals before looking and I guessed 8 under 125. That line is in the ballpark.
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63167

                                    #18
                                    total seems to be right on
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                                    • pokernut9999
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-25-07
                                      • 12757

                                      #19
                                      Cards are not hitting much lately.
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                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-19-07
                                        • 31794

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by PDW
                                        Don't over think it.
                                        This.
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                                        • ronald
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-31-05
                                          • 4919

                                          #21
                                          All I can think of is maybe Justin is a CARRE?
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                                          • mathdotcom
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-24-08
                                            • 11689

                                            #22

                                            Carré
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                                            • BeatTheJerk
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-19-07
                                              • 31794

                                              #23
                                              Jaime Garcia is 7-0 on the Under so far this year in games he has pitched ??????
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                                              • vitalogist
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-11-08
                                                • 2820

                                                #24
                                                Over for me. GL Justin.
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                                                • CarpeDime
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-01-09
                                                  • 7873

                                                  #25
                                                  garcia is awesome, sanchez inconsistent but can be good, pitcher's park, stl offense overrated because of Pujols, florida offense can easily disappear especially on the road

                                                  having said that I'd take over 7.5, very very small. I did bet over 8 +111 very small, also took Stl -160 medium small
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                                                  • Chi_archie
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-22-08
                                                    • 63167

                                                    #26
                                                    Cards offense has been way below avg this year
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                                                    • eatdust11
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-16-09
                                                      • 683

                                                      #27
                                                      looks like the over got steamed right at the end there
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                                                      • BeatTheJerk
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-19-07
                                                        • 31794

                                                        #28
                                                        Finally someone batted in a run. Unreal ................ That was sick to watch I can imagine for Justin.
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                                                        • mathdotcom
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-24-08
                                                          • 11689

                                                          #29
                                                          Justin are you ever on the right side of a play??
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                                                          • Justin7
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-31-06
                                                            • 8577

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                                            Justin are you ever on the right side of a play??
                                                            I'm more interested in the ones that move against me than the ones that move with me.

                                                            I suppose I could post something like "Check out this play - my d*ck is big" every time I get a big agreement to impress you, but you strut like a guy with a much bigger d*ck, so I'll avoid that.
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                                                            • Justin7
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 07-31-06
                                                              • 8577

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                              Finally someone batted in a run. Unreal ................ That was sick to watch I can imagine for Justin.
                                                              Does anyone actually watch these games? I'm watching "Coach Carter" on FX right now. That is much better than MLB.
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                                                              • mathdotcom
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-24-08
                                                                • 11689

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                                                I'm more interested in the ones that move against me than the ones that move with me.

                                                                I suppose I could post something like "Check out this play - my d*ck is big" every time I get a big agreement to impress you, but you strut like a guy with a much bigger d*ck, so I'll avoid that.
                                                                The plays you post don't win.

                                                                You obviously have no idea about stats or how to model.

                                                                Your other handicapping/gambling threads are wrong or uninformative.

                                                                You should focus more on identifying rogue books, I think that's where your comparative advantage is.
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                                                                • Fishhead
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                                  • 40179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Justin7
                                                                  I'm more interested in the ones that move against me than the ones that move with me.

                                                                  I suppose I could post something like "Check out this play - my d*ck is big" every time I get a big agreement to impress you, but you strut like a guy with a much bigger d*ck, so I'll avoid that.

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                                                                  • Justin7
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                                    • 8577

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                                                    The plays you post don't win.

                                                                    You obviously have no idea about stats or how to model.

                                                                    Your other handicapping/gambling threads are wrong or uninformative.

                                                                    You should focus more on identifying rogue books, I think that's where your comparative advantage is.
                                                                    Please, Mathy... Don't make yourself look stupid. I know it is easy to get those signs mixed up. "+" can look like a "-" for units won and vice versa, especially if you're not wearing your glasses, or if you have been power posting too long. Get your facts straight before you bite the hand that feeds you.

                                                                    If you can't learn to read results before the SBR bash, I might have to kick your lilly arse.
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                                                                    • Fishhead
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                                      • 40179

                                                                      #35
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