Remarkable PEDRO MARTINEZ has only 219 career wins

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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #1
    Remarkable PEDRO MARTINEZ has only 219 career wins
    Those years in Montreal coupled with his dismall last few years really hurt his career win total.

    This guy is a FIRST BALLOT HALL OF FAMER with "only" 219 wins.............
  • TheLock
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-06-08
    • 14427

    #2
    Luckily, anyone who knows anything about baseball knows that Wins and Batting Average are stats from the Stone Age
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    • OmgUrMom
      Restricted User
      • 02-07-10
      • 8481

      #3
      figured i would check out his stats since you brought it up. 219-100, not a bad win percent. 2.93 career era is pretty sick as well.

      Fo sure hall of famer despite terrible win percent
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      • Doc JS
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-15-06
        • 6885

        #4
        Originally posted by OmgUrMom
        figured i would check out his stats since you brought it up. 219-100, not a bad win percent. 2.93 career era is pretty sick as well.

        Fo sure hall of famer despite terrible win percent
        What do you mean "terrible win percentage"?
        I'm not a huge Pedro fan, but he's more than 100 games over .500 !!!
        How many other pitchers of his era are more than 100 games over .500? Answer: not many...

        Doc
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Pedro was good but did he really win a lot of big games?

          Borderline hall
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          • Fishhead
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-11-05
            • 40179

            #6
            Originally posted by TheLock
            Luckily, anyone who knows anything about baseball knows that Wins and Batting Average are stats from the Stone Age

            Unfortunately, 90% of the HALL voters are from the "Stone Age"............and precisely why Dwight Evans is off the ballot when he clearly should not be.
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #7
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Pedro was good but did he really win a lot of big games?

              Borderline hall


              JJ, totally disagree............I say he is inducted on first ballot.
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              • OmgUrMom
                Restricted User
                • 02-07-10
                • 8481

                #8
                Originally posted by Doc JS
                What do you mean "terrible win percentage"?
                I'm not a huge Pedro fan, but he's more than 100 games over .500 !!!
                How many other pitchers of his era are more than 100 games over .500? Answer: not many...

                Doc
                wow did i really just write that he had a bad win percent?

                im farther gone than i thought

                im honestly in shock i wrote that last sentence.......wtf

                his winning percentage was amazing. Don't know what happened there.....
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #9
                  Originally posted by OmgUrMom
                  wow did i really just write that he had a bad win percent?

                  im farther gone than i thought

                  im honestly in shock i wrote that last sentence.......wtf

                  his winning percentage was amazing. Don't know what happened there.....

                  Have some coffee buddy.........it will help.
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                  • Doc JS
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-15-06
                    • 6885

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Borderline hall
                    Pitchers who are 100 games over .500 are NOT borderline...

                    First ballot slam dunk HOF.

                    Doc
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                    • gryfyn1
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-30-10
                      • 3285

                      #11
                      Well Perdo's biggest issue wasn't bad teams as much as a shortened career..

                      Perdro Appeared in 476 Games ( ranks 109th in games started) and won 219 --

                      Of players with more wins than Pedro only three have fewer than 500 games, and no one over 300 wins had less tha 618 games.

                      the three with fewer than 500

                      Juan Marchial 471g 243wins
                      Whitey Ford 498 Games 236 wins

                      And guess who the third is?
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                      • TheLock
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-06-08
                        • 14427

                        #12
                        stone cold mortal candy lock for first ballot HOF
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                        • Doc JS
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-15-06
                          • 6885

                          #13
                          Originally posted by OmgUrMom
                          wow did i really just write that he had a bad win percent?

                          im farther gone than i thought

                          im honestly in shock i wrote that last sentence.......wtf

                          his winning percentage was amazing. Don't know what happened there.....
                          LOL... Like Fish said, have another cup of coffee and ease into the day!

                          Doc
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                          • MartinBlank
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-20-08
                            • 8382

                            #14
                            No pitcher in the modern era ever had a better year that Pedro did in 2000.

                            He was as close to perfect as a pitcher can get.
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                            • Chi_archie
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-22-08
                              • 63167

                              #15
                              Pedro and Maddux, dominated like few others in the their time


                              his stats from 97-03 are just filthy
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                              • 13th Inning
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-05-08
                                • 878

                                #16
                                On a related note, Koufax only had 165 wins, and he was another sure-thing HOF'er.

                                Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Sandy Koufax. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com


                                Pedro is easily first ballot HOF. His 1999 and 2000 are among the greatest seasons of all time, and at the height of the steroid/HGH stuff too. 0.737 WHIP in 1999.
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                                • 13th Inning
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-05-08
                                  • 878

                                  #17
                                  Sorry that should be 0.737 in 2000.
                                  (Also 1.74 ERA!)
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63167

                                    #18
                                    Sandy also retired super early due to extreme pain he had to pitche through in his elbow....

                                    few have dominated for a 5 year period like Koufax
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Never won a lot of big games

                                      Lots of no decisions
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63167

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MartinBlank
                                        No pitcher in the modern era ever had a better year that Pedro did in 2000.

                                        He was as close to perfect as a pitcher can get.

                                        I would take Maddux's 96 or even 95 year over Pedro's 2000....
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                                        • OmgUrMom
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 02-07-10
                                          • 8481

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                          I would take Maddux's 96 or even 95 year over Pedro's 2000....
                                          Pedro 2000- 1.74 era, 217 ip, 284 SO, .737 whip

                                          maddux 95- 1.63 era, 209 ip, 181 so, .811 whip

                                          considering the competition and the difference between national and american leagues, i easily take pedro. Hell even not considering maddux was pitching in an easier league, you can still say pedro had the better year with considerably more strikeouts a better whip and only slightly worse in the era department.
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                                          • gryfyn1
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-30-10
                                            • 3285

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by OmgUrMom
                                            Pedro 2000- 1.74 era, 217 ip, 284 SO, .737 whip

                                            maddux 95- 1.63 era, 209 ip, 181 so, .811 whip

                                            considering the competition and the difference between national and american leagues, i easily take pedro. Hell even not considering maddux was pitching in an easier league, you can still say pedro had the better year with considerably more strikeouts a better whip and only slightly worse in the era department.
                                            Quite hionestly your splitting hairs there -- you are talking about two of the most dominate pitching season in past 40 years --
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                                            • Doc JS
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-15-06
                                              • 6885

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Lots of no decisions
                                              Jeezzzuuusss...is there no end to the stupidity that comes out of your mouth???

                                              He had enough decisions to be more than 100 games over .500. Is that enough decisions for you???

                                              Doc
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                                              • gryfyn1
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-30-10
                                                • 3285

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Doc JS
                                                Jeezzzuuusss...is there no end to the stupidity that comes out of your mouth???

                                                He had enough decisions to be more than 100 games over .500. Is that enough decisions for you???

                                                Doc
                                                really, Ive been here five weeks and even Ive figured out no to bother to read anything he posts ...
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