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  • TRAKKER
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-26-09
    • 16

    #1646
    Originally posted by LasVegasSystems
    The fallacy in all chase money management schemes is that they will fail at the worst time (that time being a complete loss of your bankroll). Professional traders know proper risk/reward ratios (your objective is to make more on a trade in terms of multiples than you are risking). That concept is reversed with chase "money management" by many in sports betting and is the very reason that professional sports bettors will not chase. Chase money management (should be called monetary destruction) appeals to those that have never taken a college level course in statistics. Guys wake up before you lose all your bankroll.

    A 1/2 Kelly Money Management (which I have on my site) is the safest way to bet on sports and ironically is also the fastest way to compound your bankroll. Throw Martingale in the trash where it belongs.
    What is the link to the site so we can check out your money management system?
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    • G's pks
      Restricted User
      • 01-01-09
      • 22251

      #1647
      Originally posted by Brian891
      I am a newbie and love the work u guys put in. My feeling from researching seasons past is that as the season goes on and we develop a feel for the teams, wont this system be even more successful? In april we have somewhat of an idea of what teams will play well, but who would have predicted nats would be over .500 for example? I am thrilled to be showing a profit. i would think june and july will be awesome for this system. I am pleased with how well i did monetary wise for april. I know my opinion isn't worth a sh*t, just want to thank G and Reverend for their excellent work and hope to be in this thread in august flush with cash along with everyone else!!
      just be patient.... the winning will continue in both threads...
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      • khaden
        SBR MVP
        • 01-19-09
        • 1864

        #1648
        G- I did read your thread--sorry for the confusion but the results I was referring to was with Rev's system not yours. I don't think I made any references to results from your system. I wish both you guys well-in no way was I being critical or disrespectful to Rev or you for that matter. I'm just saying this week was proof that one bad week can easily wipe out several successful weeks. I don't think Im willing to continue this for the rest of the season. I may continue the RL fav plays because of the much lower juice on the RL.
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        • daneault23
          SBR MVP
          • 09-08-09
          • 3851

          #1649
          Well what a last couple of weeks. I too have suffered three C bet losses with the Red Sox twice, and the stupid Astros once. However, with all that happening in a two week time period I am still have more now than what I had before the season started. I know these days suck, and I went from more than doubling my entire roll from $1K to over $2.5K to now having less than $2K.

          All i can say is that even though I have farrrr less than what I had a couple days ago, I can't complain since I'm up a little so far. I also think as time goes on, we will get a better feel for the good/bad teams and the system will get stronger. Let this be a lesson to us that we really have to spend time and analzye each series pick because just going by a gut feeilng sometimes doesn't cut it. I mean who would have that the Sox would lose 3 in a row to a team with the worst record in baseball???

          To those who are down, I know it's a s****y feeling but try to remember that strict money management is key. If you are on a roll, don't push it.

          GL to everyone the rest of the season and let's look forward onto tomorrow. I see the Yanks as the only good opportunity for tomorrow. Other series are a toss-up.
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          • khaden
            SBR MVP
            • 01-19-09
            • 1864

            #1650
            ...

            Originally posted by TRAKKER
            What is the link to the site so we can check out your money management system?
            I was searching for this and couldn't find anythng--I also sent him a PM hours ago asking for this and he has yet to respond. If he does I will certainly pass it on.
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            • daneault23
              SBR MVP
              • 09-08-09
              • 3851

              #1651
              Damn, I still can't believe the Sox. I know you're not supposed to moan and complain, but they show no heart sometimes.
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              • Jordan23
                SBR MVP
                • 04-26-10
                • 1227

                #1652
                This is not much fun. I guess it is never much fun to lose. I am not giving up though. How can I? How can anyone give up? This is the best job in the world.. It is a blessing to be able to make money this way. We all need to realize that. So we will take this loss and learn from it. The more and more the season goes the more money we will all make. Especially when we have such a wonderful thread with so many positive people. We have a thread full of intelligent people to help each other out! With that being said.. I LIKE OUR ODDS! I hope we all have a great week.
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                • Jordan23
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-26-10
                  • 1227

                  #1653
                  I know.. You would think they would show more heart than what they do.
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                  • Brian891
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-28-10
                    • 2049

                    #1654
                    Amen Jordan23!
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                    • G's pks
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-01-09
                      • 22251

                      #1655
                      Originally posted by daneault23
                      I see the Yanks as the only good opportunity for tomorrow. Other series are a toss-up.
                      Believe me you are talking -300 there...As soon as May starts the juice starts rocketing up...
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                      • JVP3122
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-02-09
                        • 1048

                        #1656
                        Originally posted by G's pks

                        Believe me you are talking -300 there...As soon as May starts the juice starts rocketing up...
                        Yeah, that one might be rough. Even the -1RL is at about -233.
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                        • daneault23
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-08-09
                          • 3851

                          #1657
                          Originally posted by JVP3122
                          Yeah, that one might be rough. Even the -1RL is at about -233.
                          Yeah, I'm just takin the -1.5 RL. F the juice on that ML shit.
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                          • daneault23
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-08-09
                            • 3851

                            #1658
                            Originally posted by Jordan23
                            This is not much fun. I guess it is never much fun to lose. I am not giving up though. How can I? How can anyone give up? This is the best job in the world.. It is a blessing to be able to make money this way. We all need to realize that. So we will take this loss and learn from it. The more and more the season goes the more money we will all make. Especially when we have such a wonderful thread with so many positive people. We have a thread full of intelligent people to help each other out! With that being said.. I LIKE OUR ODDS! I hope we all have a great week.
                            Great post. I say we try to forget about the hurt this cost us, but remember why it happened and move on. I'm hoping to get back what I lost during this week.
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                            • Van G
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 03-30-10
                              • 261

                              #1659
                              I have personally analyzed all of the upcoming series on Monday & Tuesday.....I agree there are not many solid series coming up

                              I have noticed we have alot of perceived "favorites" playing their series on the road

                              If the Yankees are giving up too much juice, I say take a look at the SF Giants

                              They have their top of the rotation going against the Marlins on the road

                              Lincecum / Zito / Cain will all be going in their series

                              I know the Giants are not world beaters on the road, but they will miss J. Johnson (FLA's ace) in this series and they will have a sweet-ass matchup w/ Lincecum going against A. Sanchez in Game 1

                              I like that series for this system
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                              • Van G
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 03-30-10
                                • 261

                                #1660
                                Originally posted by Van G
                                I have personally analyzed all of the upcoming series on Monday & Tuesday.....I agree there are not many solid series coming up

                                I have noticed we have alot of perceived "favorites" playing their series on the road

                                If the Yankees are giving up too much juice, I say take a look at the SF Giants

                                They have their top of the rotation going against the Marlins on the road

                                Lincecum / Zito / Cain will all be going in their series

                                I know the Giants are not world beaters on the road, but they will miss J. Johnson (FLA's ace) in this series and they will have a sweet-ass matchup w/ Lincecum going against A. Sanchez in Game 1

                                I like that series for this system


                                ALSO LOOK AT THE LA DODGERS vs. MIL BREWERS....nice matchups there as well w/ Kershaw pitching Game 1 in that series......Dodgers seemed to find their bats again & the Brewers starters have all been "gas-cans" in the month of April (with the exception of their #1 SP Gallardo - who will not pitch in this LAD series)
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                                • JVP3122
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-02-09
                                  • 1048

                                  #1661
                                  Originally posted by Van G



                                  ALSO LOOK AT THE LA DODGERS vs. MIL BREWERS....nice matchups there as well w/ Kershaw pitching Game 1 in that series......Dodgers seemed to find their bats again & the Brewers starters have all been "gas-cans" in the month of April (with the exception of their #1 SP Gallardo - who will not pitch in this LAD series)
                                  One other one worth looking at is the Padres at home against the Rockies. Some analysis is needed, but just looking at the pitching matchups, the first game obviously favors Colorado with Jimenez going. The other two games could easily go for SD as LeBlanc goes on Tuesday and then Richard goes on Wednesday versus Cook, who hasn't pitched well this season.
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                                  • Van G
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 03-30-10
                                    • 261

                                    #1662
                                    Originally posted by JVP3122
                                    One other one worth looking at is the Padres at home against the Rockies. Some analysis is needed, but just looking at the pitching matchups, the first game obviously favors Colorado with Jimenez going. The other two games could easily go for SD as LeBlanc goes on Tuesday and then Richard goes on Wednesday versus Cook, who hasn't pitched well this season.

                                    What I am going to explain below is what I have done in the last 2 weeks of this series chase (it has helped me stay away from these C Bet losses most of you guys are taking)

                                    I have been passing on Game 1 of a "marginal" series or a bad pitching match-up like what is coming up in Game 1 of the SD-COL series (Jimenez going for COL)

                                    I passed on game 1 of the HOU series that all of you ended up taking C Bet losses on....I instead ended up playing only Game 2 & 3 as my A & B Bet....I lost both bets, but I never lost a C Bet b/c I passed on Game 1 of this "marginal" series

                                    For example in the upcoming COL-SD series (we will be playing SD in this series):

                                    Pass on Game 1 w/ Jimenez pitching....if COL wins Game 1, then make it a 2 game chase on SD only for Games 2 & 3

                                    If SD wins Game 1, then just pass on the rest of the series & move on

                                    I think what everyone has to remember is that it's no big deal if you pass on a series once in awhile

                                    You don't have to play EVERY SERIES that Rev is playing

                                    If you are uncomfotable with a series, just pass on it instead of blindly following

                                    Not to brag or anything, I personally passed on BOTH Boston & Tampa Bay this weekend, mostly b/c BOS has been playing like crap in April & Tampa Bay was facing a very tough KC starting pitching

                                    I subbed out these 2 series for StLouis vs. CIN instead....I may have gotten lucky with this, but I used my OWN JUDGEMENT (which many of you seem are not doing) by not playing BOS & TB this weekend
                                    Last edited by Van G; 05-02-10, 10:49 PM.
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                                    • reverend
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 06-01-09
                                      • 880

                                      #1663
                                      Originally posted by reverend
                                      Sunday May 2:

                                      C bets is on Tampa and Boston

                                      FAV B bet is on the Cardinals


                                      *Sorry for the quick posts. I am not able to be at a computer this weekend. I have been very busy.
                                      *As G mentioned above, we have been talking about risk/reward going forward. There is will some changes in the money management aspect going forward
                                      *Like I have said before, make sure you are comfortable placing these bets, if not, dont place them. You are in control of your bankrolll.

                                      Sunday May 2:


                                      Chase Series: 2-1 (-26.4 Units)


                                      *2nd C Bet loss this week. Very bad week!

                                      *I have been working tonight on some changes to this system. The first major change will be regarding the money management aspect. The 2nd change is based on the filters I use. I hope to have these changes completed by tomorrow.

                                      *I know many are discouraged, but please know that we will rebound from this week. We will show a large profit in this thread when the end of the season rolls around. This week as been one of the weirdest weeks in my betting career. Thanks for all the positive PMs you guys have sent.
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                                      • BillAccpetor
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 02-07-09
                                        • 790

                                        #1664
                                        The easy capping of Baseball is over! The first weeks of April were so damn easy and odds not so bad (f.e. Yankees).

                                        I would suggest playing only 2 game series like van g mentioned... If you lose bet B take the loss and go on. A losing C-bet eats your bankroll dramatically and you feel like to bounce this money as fast as possible back... Because of emotional reaction you are picking losers and Vegas eats your bankroll once again...
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                                        • Van G
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 03-30-10
                                          • 261

                                          #1665
                                          Originally posted by BillAccpetor
                                          The easy capping of Baseball is over! The first weeks of April were so damn easy and odds not so bad (f.e. Yankees).

                                          I would suggest playing only 2 game series like van g mentioned... If you lose bet B take the loss and go on. A losing C-bet eats your bankroll dramatically and you feel like to bounce this money as fast as possible back... Because of emotional reaction you are picking losers and Vegas eats your bankroll once again...

                                          I think playing most of the series for B Bets is a good idea

                                          Like I said before, I personally felt uncomfotable w/ both BOS & TB, so I passed on both....plus they were giving up so much juice

                                          I also did the 2 game chase with FLA....they lost Game 1 to WASH (which I did not play) so I turned the FLA series into a 2-game chase knowing that FLA's ace was pitching in Game 3 as my possible B Bet
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                                          • Brian891
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-28-10
                                            • 2049

                                            #1666
                                            Great work Reverend! Thanks for sticking with thread. I look forward to your adjustments and am confident we will have a nice week.
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                                            • dyeguy
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 07-21-09
                                              • 94

                                              #1667
                                              Originally posted by TRAKKER
                                              What is the link to the site so we can check out your money management system?
                                              Google Gibbons Sports
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                                              • jpot34
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-24-07
                                                • 1391

                                                #1668
                                                Looking forward to Monday's playz!
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                                                • tony_come
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-31-10
                                                  • 21695

                                                  #1669
                                                  I like the reds 5/3/2010
                                                  "its your money"
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                                                  • dynamitappletini
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 03-27-10
                                                    • 917

                                                    #1670
                                                    Also another thing I went with some times when you want to decrease your risk:
                                                    Just Bet as much units as you would need to win with the C bet to break even (+- 0) without the 2 unit profit... It doens't reduce the risk very much, but atleast a bit... Just a thought

                                                    Btw statistically after this horrible week, the next ones are about to be awesome
                                                    We'll see!
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                                                    • balls2wall
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-20-09
                                                      • 2642

                                                      #1671
                                                      Originally posted by khaden
                                                      Ok guys it's been a fun ride but Im done. With the 3 C losses in one week (Houston, RedSox with Rev, and Seattle with G's system) that literally wiped out the profits from the first 3 weeks. I maintained strict money management as outlined and I don't think anyone can convince me this will be profitable over a season. As I have stated in previous posts this was the first year I played this type of system. I followed this thread weeks/months before the season started and it seemed very realistic to go through the season without a series loss (based on several years of back testing). Without looking at the stats I believe the last few years only had one or two series losses for the entire season. There have been (3) in one week and as we all know they sting a little. I wish you all well and hopefully these will be the only series losses for the year and you guys can rebound from this week and hit another long streak
                                                      Good Luck.


                                                      hate to see you bail khaden since you have been here from the start


                                                      I can understand though


                                                      good luck the rest of the way
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                                                      • Betting Guru
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-24-09
                                                        • 648

                                                        #1672
                                                        Can't wait for your plays today, REV!
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                                                        • GGPLAYER
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-26-09
                                                          • 2981

                                                          #1673
                                                          Originally posted by khaden
                                                          Ok guys it's been a fun ride but Im done. With the 3 C losses in one week (Houston, RedSox with Rev, and Seattle with G's system) that literally wiped out the profits from the first 3 weeks. I maintained strict money management as outlined and I don't think anyone can convince me this will be profitable over a season. As I have stated in previous posts this was the first year I played this type of system. I followed this thread weeks/months before the season started and it seemed very realistic to go through the season without a series loss (based on several years of back testing). Without looking at the stats I believe the last few years only had one or two series losses for the entire season. There have been (3) in one week and as we all know they sting a little. I wish you all well and hopefully these will be the only series losses for the year and you guys can rebound from this week and hit another long streak
                                                          Good Luck.
                                                          I feel your pain and totally understand your stance. I also took a major hit this week and also suffered an early season lost when I was trying to follow this thread and the one Stingy started. I believe that loss was also Boston and now I really do not like that team. I tried to recover my week's loss yesterday by taking my total amount and dividing it by 4 and placed a bet on TB, Bos, Sea and StL. Bos should have won this series in game B and in extra innings had a throwing error to set up the winning run yesterday. I had to have a sarcastic laugh last night when I heard on ESPN that this was the first home series sweep Balt has had over Bos in 36 years!! Just our luck, right! Then Sea had a 1-0 lead going into the 9th and lost 3-1 in extra innings too. So I have suffered a total of 4 C series beat downs and it's only the first week of May. I just think I'm too greedy for the system and we're all playing too many series. So for me I'm out a lot of money and just can't risk going any further down. I look at today's game with NYY and the line is just a complete joke. Should NYY win....yes but the slim chance they don't I just don't want to go down that path. I think selective betting and taking some more dogs is the way to go for me unless I really, really like a series. Maybe I'll wait for only B and C bets.

                                                          Just some of my suggestions for you all to consider:
                                                          1- Don't bet crap teams no matter how hot they appear. Face it Hou stinks and yes they had a nice little run there but they just got sweep in back-to-back series.
                                                          2- Avoid betting on a road team (Bos)
                                                          3- If game one wins in a 4 game set don't temp fate and play the next 3 games. Ok we got away with it this week but it was a 1-0 game and could have gone either way. GL guys I wish you nothing but success.
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                                                          • balls2wall
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-20-09
                                                            • 2642

                                                            #1674
                                                            Here are my early leans



                                                            STL - I have been riding them hard and hate to press my luck, but they should win 1 and I like the pitching matchups. The juice should be pretty low the whole series too.


                                                            NYY - I would love to play them ML, but the juice is gonna be way too high at -300. I am thinking about going RL at around -140. They should win at least 1 game by 2 runs. I may look into the -1rl, but the juice is gonna be high with that too. May just pass on this series, but I hate to.


                                                            There are a few others that I don't like as much that I am thinking about waiting for a game 1 loss then playing a 2 game chase, or possibly waiting to play game 3 if they lose the first two.?.?


                                                            There just isn't a lot that is really jumping out at me right now which is probably good to keep the number of plays down.
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                                                            • dyeguy
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 07-21-09
                                                              • 94

                                                              #1675
                                                              Originally posted by balls2wall
                                                              Here are my early leans



                                                              STL - I have been riding them hard and hate to press my luck, but they should win 1 and I like the pitching matchups. The juice should be pretty low the whole series too.


                                                              NYY - I would love to play them ML, but the juice is gonna be way too high at -300. I am thinking about going RL at around -140. They should win at least 1 game by 2 runs. I may look into the -1rl, but the juice is gonna be high with that too. May just pass on this series, but I hate to.


                                                              There are a few others that I don't like as much that I am thinking about waiting for a game 1 loss then playing a 2 game chase, or possibly waiting to play game 3 if they lose the first two.?.?


                                                              There just isn't a lot that is really jumping out at me right now which is probably good to keep the number of plays down.
                                                              Definitely agree with you on Yankees -1.5 runline. They should win one of these 3 games by 2 runs. We do need to stick to playing good teams at home and fading bad ones on the road and then still filtering teams that aren't playing well and pitching matchups. You are going to have way too many losses when you start playing too many road teams and trying to press too many series with bad teams. The occasional Yankees against the Orioles even in Baltimore etc are good series to bet on but not the marginal teams like Boston.
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                                                              • akerber
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 04-08-08
                                                                • 473

                                                                #1676
                                                                I like Yankees too.
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                                                                • dlunc3
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-31-09
                                                                  • 9129

                                                                  #1677
                                                                  There gonna be any plays today Rev?
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                                                                  • reverend
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 06-01-09
                                                                    • 880

                                                                    #1678
                                                                    Monday May 3:


                                                                    Series System:

                                                                    A Bet: Yankees (-1 RL) Risking 2.46 Units to Win 1 Unit


                                                                    FAV System:

                                                                    A Bet: Yankees (-1 RL) Risking 2.46 Units to Win 1 Unit


                                                                    *I am dropping all the series back down to 1 unit until I nail down the money management aspect, that I am still working on.
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                                                                    • doublej95
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-26-10
                                                                      • 14094

                                                                      #1679
                                                                      Thanks Rev for the update, keep up the good work.
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                                                                      • diegoelmestre
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 12-30-09
                                                                        • 510

                                                                        #1680
                                                                        keep the fantastic job Rev
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