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  • Razz
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-22-05
    • 5632

    #1
    My Monday Plays
    The very tough loss in Atlanta makes Sunday only a 3-2 day, but the +161 and +106 dogs ensured that it was still an above average day. Anyone who has been reading my daily threads the past couple weeks should immediately know my top play for Monday’s card. Despite the small number of games, I feel like it‘s a pretty strong card overall, and I am making six plays.

    Heavy:

    A’s (Gaud Awful) @ Angels (Colon Blow) Over 9 -110
    I've successfully faded Gaudin the first two games after the ASB, and I said I was probably going to bet against him every start the second half. I can't here, because he's facing the worst pitcher in baseball. But, anyway, here's what he's done his last two starts: 0-2, 10 IP, 14 hits, 11 BB, 10 ER. 9.00 ERA, 2.50 WHIP. Hella! It might get worse before it gets better.

    Here's what I wrote about Colon in fading him last Wednesday:

    Devil Rays -103 (Kazmir/Colon) & Over 9 -110
    Last eight starts for Bartolo Colon: 1-4, 40.2 IP, 68 hits, 15 BB, 41 ER, 9.18 ERA, 2.04 WHIP. Road stats: 7.81 ERA, 1.88 WHIP, .358 BAA. He's favored. On the road. Against one of the best left-handed pitchers in baseball.
    Colon actually only had a 1.80 WHIP and a 5.40 ERA in that game.

    Medium:

    Royals +163 (Perez/Clemens)
    Everyone is talking about the Yankees scoring 38 runs in their past two games. It’s damn impressive, really. And it’s a possibility that they score 10 more Monday. But the Yankees are still 51-46. They’re still 1-11 on the road against left-handed starters, despite being favored in every one of those games.
    Roger Clemens is going to pitch better than he has been away from home. But as long as he is 0-3 with a 7.56 ERA, 1.74 WHIP, and .299 BAA on the road, it’s comical that he is laying this price to a hot offense and team that has won 21 of 35. The Royals have had 62 hits and scored 38 runs the last five games, compiling a 4-1 record on the road against what most consider the two best teams in the AL. They can keep it up at home.
    People may mention that Odalis Perez has a career ERA of 15.43 against the Yankees. I don’t really care that he gave up 8 ER in 4.2 IP at Yankee Stadium in 1999. It’s irrelevant. The current Yankees hitters are a combined 6-36 (.167) with one XB hit against him. Look, Perez is what he is. A back-end starter for a mediocre team. He’s not going to throw a shutout, he’s probably not going to get the win. But with the above 1-11 stat and with the way the Royals offense has been playing, I think he will keep them in the game. Both bullpens are pretty good, not great, and even though the Yankees have a better lineup and starter, this line is not close to reality.

    Light:

    Padres (Maddux) @ Rockies (Francis) Over 9.5 -120
    Both teams were shut out in pitcher’s parks Sunday. Both teams should put up some runs in the anti-pitcher’s park Monday. The Rockies have hit righties better this year, and they have nice career numbers against Maddux:

    Atkins 7-15, .467, 2B, 2 HR
    Baker 1-1, 1.000, 2B
    Hawpe 3-12, .250, 2B
    Helton 11-38, .289, 2B
    Holliday 9-18, .500, 2B, 2 3B, 2 HR
    Ianetta 1-4, .250
    Matsui 6-13, .462, 2B, 3B
    Taveras 4-13, .308, 3B
    Torrealba 3-9, .333
    Tulowitzki 0-5, .000
    The Padres are better against lefties, and their numbers against Francis aren’t bad either, though many are in limited appearances:

    Bard 1-3, .333
    Barrett 0-4, .000
    Bradley 2-3, .667, 2B
    Branyan 2-3, .667
    Cameron 6-17, .353, 2 2B, 3B
    Cruz 3-7, .429, 2 2B
    M. Giles 4-10, 2 2B
    B. Giles 7-27, .259, 2B, 3B
    Gonzalez 3-14, .214, HR
    Greene 7-20, .350, 2B, 3 HR
    Kouzmanoff 0-3, .000
    I really like the situational play more than anything, but Maddux’s road numbers are not good, neither are his Coors numbers, he hasn’t had a quality start all month, and the Rockies bullpen will give some up even if Francis has 6 or 7 good innings.

    Giants +108 & Under 8 -115 (Cain/Smoltz)
    I won‘t be the least bit surprised if the Braves get shutout here, as odd as that sounds about a team facing a 3-11 pitcher. But my thoughts on Cain are pretty well documented, and it’s hard to imagine a more deflating feeling in baseball than losing a game you should have won, in extra innings of a night game no less, and flying across the country to face one of the nastiest pitchers in the game. Cain got squeezed mercilessly his last start, giving up six runs in four innings, but he still gave up only four hits, and I expect a much better performance against the team he rooted for growing up. When his control is on, he’s one of the elite pitchers in the game. Both teams have very pedestrian numbers against the opposing starter and both bullpens are above average.

    Blue Jays +145 (Marcum/Santana)
    We all know how tough Santana is, and he owns a couple Jay hitters:

    Clayton 2-12, .167
    Hill 1-6, .167
    Overbay, 1-11, .091
    Wells 3-21, .143, 2B, HR
    But a couple have very good numbers against him:

    Glaus 7-18, .389, 3 2B, HR
    Johnson, 9-16, .563, 2B
    Rios 3-9, .333, 2B
    Thomas 6-16, .375, 2B, 2 HR
    His numbers both against the Jays overall (2-3, 4.15 ERA, 1.29 WHIP) and at Rogers Centre (1-2, 4.50 ERA, 1.40 WHIP) are both very average. The Jays have hit LHP as well as anyone the past few seasons. I’m really high on Marcum. Since he’s been moved to the starting rotation, he’s giving quality start after quality start. He already shut down the Twins once this year, going 8 innings and allowing only six hits, a walk, and a run at the Metrodome. He was unfortunate to get a no-decision in that one, I think he gets the win on Monday.
  • MonkeyF0cker
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-12-07
    • 12144

    #2
    I'm with you on the Royals. The Yanks have a tendency this year to score 3 games worth of runs in one game and then fall flat for a while. The Royals are playing well too. Can't pass up the price. I'm a little skeptical about the As/Angels over. It really looks enticing but I have this nasty feeling that all of the runs are going to have to come from the Angels. The As couldn't hit a Little League fastball right now. They've scored 3 runs or less in 13 of their last 16 games.
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    • Razz
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-22-05
      • 5632

      #3
      A Word on WHIPs

      There's been some questions and speculations about WHIPs and what they mean, both in my threads and in other assorted posts. Here's my take.

      Anything below 1.1 - exceptional
      1.1 - 1.25 - good
      1.26 - 1.40 - average
      1.41 - 1.55 - below average
      1.56+ - bad

      Of course, like anything else, other factors are going to apply, but once you start to understand it, the WHIP will help you out tremendously. One thing a WHIP can do is tell you when a pitcher is due for better or worse results - Fausto Carmona (12-4, 3.52 ERA) and Dave Bush (8-8, 4.83 ERA) both have 1.31 WHIPs. I can almost guarantee that Bush will finish the year with a record better than .500 and an ERA under 4.83 and Carmona will finish the year with a worse than .750 record and an ERA over 3.52 (hope I'm wrong, he's on my fantasy team).
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      • Razz
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-22-05
        • 5632

        #4
        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
        I'm with you on the Royals. The Yanks have a tendency this year to score 3 games worth of runs in one game and then fall flat for a while. The Royals are playing well too. Can't pass up the price. I'm a little skeptical about the As/Angels over. It really looks enticing but I have this nasty feeling that all of the runs are going to have to come from the Angels. The As couldn't hit a Little League fastball right now. They've scored 3 runs or less in 13 of their last 16 games.
        Luckily Bartolo Colon can't throw one. Seriously, I know what you're saying, the A's are pathetic, but I honestly will be surprised if either team scores less than 6.
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        • Sundram
          SBR High Roller
          • 02-22-07
          • 232

          #5
          Braves game

          Razz, I'm here on the West Coast, & the Atlanta game wasn't over until after 8:30 PM. The announcer then said they have to board a late flight & fly to Frisco. Then, after a long night in which they might arrive at the hotel by 3:00 AM Pacific time, they get to play a late game on Monday. You mention this angle above, but don't you think this is a game we should jump on (as a heavy play), & take the Giants w/ positive odds? The only thing that concerns me is Smoltz! If the Giants can score against him at all, they should take this! Feedback?
          Sundram
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          • EaglesPhan36
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 71662

            #6
            I originally had the A's/Angels as one of my top 3 over plays, but was a bit hesitant. Seeing others like it - might make me swing back to my original thought. Colon is such an easy target!
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            • Razz
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-22-05
              • 5632

              #7
              Originally posted by Sundram
              Razz, I'm here on the West Coast, & the Atlanta game wasn't over until after 8:30 PM. The announcer then said they have to board a late flight & fly to Frisco. Then, after a long night in which they might arrive at the hotel by sunrise, they get to play a late game on Monday. You mention this angle above, but don't you think this is a game we should jump on (as a heavy play), & take the Giants w/ positive odds? The only thing that concerns me is Smoltz! If the Giants can score against him at all, they should take this! Feedback?
              Sundram
              I'd love to, I really would. But the concern for me is the pitiful lack of support Cain gets. The Giants have scored 3 or fewer in 12 of his last 13 starts, and 3 or fewer in eight of his nine home starts. I think the only people not affected by tonight's game for the Braves will be Smoltz and McCann, the battery for the Braves tomorrow.
              I understand if you want to play the Giants big in this game. I do too. Like I say, I really think the Braves get 0, 1, or 2. But 1 or 2 could be enough to win.
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              • Razz
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-22-05
                • 5632

                #8
                Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                I originally had the A's/Angels as one of my top 3 over plays, but was a bit hesitant. Seeing others like it - might make me swing back to my original thought. Colon is such an easy target!
                It's the opposite of the classic paradox. What happens when a resistable force meets a movable object? Hopefully the A's score 8 runs.
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                • onlooker
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 36572

                  #9
                  Razz, good luck on Monday.

                  I only have one, once again. That would be the Athletics +125. I just hope their bats can find some kind of life.
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                  • rjt721
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-06-07
                    • 7929

                    #10
                    Like the ATL/SF under, and I tend to agree on the Royals and Jays as good-sized dogs. I initially had the A's/Halos over circled as a definite play, but as bad as Colon is, Oakland's inability to hit anything lately scared me away, at least for the time being. I'm also not quite as down on Gaudin as you appear to be, but I agree that his record and ERA are deceiving and he's a nice target to fade if he's being priced as a front-of-the-line pitcher, which he's surely not. I wouldn't be surprised if he threw a good game tomorrow night, but there's no doubt that Colon's just brutal and a possibility to cash the over by himself. The more I look at this game, the more I like the A's team total over 4.5 +125.
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                    • babaoriley
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-11-06
                      • 2316

                      #11
                      "
                      Royals +163 (Perez/Clemens)
                      Everyone is talking about the Yankees scoring 38 runs in their past two games. It’s damn impressive, really. And it’s a possibility that they score 10 more Monday. But the Yankees are still 51-46. They’re still 1-11 on the road against left-handed starters, despite being favored in every one of those games.
                      Roger Clemens is going to pitch better than he has been away from home. But as long as he is 0-3 with a 7.56 ERA, 1.74 WHIP, and .299 BAA on the road, it’s comical that he is laying this price to a hot offense and team that has won 21 of 35. The Royals have had 62 hits and scored 38 runs the last five games, compiling a 4-1 record on the road against what most consider the two best teams in the AL. They can keep it up at home.
                      People may mention that Odalis Perez has a career ERA of 15.43 against the Yankees. I don’t really care that he gave up 8 ER in 4.2 IP at Yankee Stadium in 1999. It’s irrelevant. The current Yankees hitters are a combined 6-36 (.167) with one XB hit against him. Look, Perez is what he is. A back-end starter for a mediocre team. He’s not going to throw a shutout, he’s probably not going to get the win. But with the above 1-11 stat and with the way the Royals offense has been playing, I think he will keep them in the game. Both bullpens are pretty good, not great, and even though the Yankees have a better lineup and starter, this line is not close to reality."


                      AMEN Brother.
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                      • bigboydan
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 55420

                        #12
                        I'm glad to see I'm not the only nut liking the Royals tomorrow.
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                        • BatemanPatrickl
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-21-07
                          • 18772

                          #13
                          Razz - Braves screwed me last night also. Good luck today.
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                          • moses millsap
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-25-05
                            • 8289

                            #14
                            I can't believe how low the price has gotten on the Twins and Santana.

                            I'm hesitant to bet on the Giants, but expect a good start out of Cain tonight. I think the +1.5 at -160 is better value than the ML myself.
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                            • Razz
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-22-05
                              • 5632

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OWNED
                              I can't believe how low the price has gotten on the Twins and Santana.
                              Yeah, I'm a bit surprised by that. I don't really ever know what to make of that movement, because according to SI, 74% are playing the Twins in this game and the line's dropped 15 cents or so. So it would appear to be smart money, but I think betting the Jays in the +130 range is a bad idea.
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                              • moses millsap
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-25-05
                                • 8289

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Razz
                                Yeah, I'm a bit surprised by that. I don't really ever know what to make of that movement, because according to SI, 74% are playing the Twins in this game and the line's dropped 15 cents or so. So it would appear to be smart money, but I think betting the Jays in the +130 range is a bad idea.
                                Watching this one and Santana's in big trouble. Just hope Marcum holds down the Twinkies. Rondell White's back in and batting 7th but admitted he was no where near 100%.
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                                • paul Mordeeb
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 05-12-07
                                  • 220

                                  #17
                                  Dude, Thanks for that Over play. I serouisly don't know why I pick any game on my own. Nothing like having a winner before 4th is done.
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                                  • joesomebody114
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 07-23-07
                                    • 713

                                    #18
                                    Haha heard ya on that one paul!
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                                    • BatemanPatrickl
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-21-07
                                      • 18772

                                      #19
                                      Razz - Nice pick. Cashed in on the over with you!
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