On3's MLB 2024 Opening Day System

[RockLonemilk]

So, Atlanta won but you lost the -1.5 RL bet. Does that get scored as a loss and you bet again tomorrow, even though they actually won the game?

I bet the -1.0 RL on ATL and pushed, but since they won the game I'm just passing on the next 2 games in that series.

[RockLonemilk]

Thanks, grecycle99! Let's close them all out today!

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/17/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 100-4; Profit: 61.53 units
Filtered System: 22-0; Profit: 37.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 129-4; Profit: 128.11 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 67-37; 15-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 25-12; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 8-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 8 * 15.18
(B)
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/17/2024

(A) Atlanta RL -104 to win 1.52U
(A) Philadelphia -178 to win 1.52U
(A) Pittsburgh -183 to win 1.52U

Filtered

(A) Philadelphia -178 to win 1.52U
5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/16/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 94-4; Profit: 59.09 units
Filtered System: 21-0; Profit: 36.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 122-4; Profit: 124.67 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 63-35; 14-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 24-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 2 * 23.79
(B) 1 * 23.79
(C) 2 * 23.79

REGULAR FOR 06/16/2024

(C) San Francisco -153 to win 2.38u

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

Did you change your method on the labby? This is the first time I have seen "B" wager be 1u. I think you meant to win 34.56 based on your method and labby lines or 1.73u. Unless you switched to my method ;-)

(B) Milwaukee -128 to win 1u
(B) San Francisco -144 to win 1u

yes you are right, I forgot to change the to win units sorry thanks for catching that

[J.M. Disciple]

Yes alot of line moves but everything was official and only ATL was RL thanks my friend

Did you change your method on the labby? This is the first time I have seen "B" wager be 1u. I think you meant to win 34.56 based on your method and labby lines or 1.73u. Unless you switched to my method ;-)

(B) Milwaukee -128 to win 1u
(B) San Francisco -144 to win 1u

[grecycle99]

Lots of line movement

ATL -212 = RL
MIL -165 = ML
ARZ -182 = ML
LAD -137 = no play
SF -152 = ML

I personally have all the plays already locked in, so hope for the best. But will be interesting based on the results of the game which plays are official with RL/ML/NO play.

Yes alot of line moves but everything was official and only ATL was RL thanks my friend

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/15/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 94-4; Profit: 59.09 units
Filtered System: 21-0; Profit: 36.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 122-4; Profit: 124.67 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 63-35; 14-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 24-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 2 * 17.28
(B) 4 * 17.28
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/15/2024

(B) Milwaukee -128 to win 1u
(B) San Francisco -144 to win 1u

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play

[J.M. Disciple]

Lots of line movement

ATL -212 = RL
MIL -165 = ML
ARZ -182 = ML
LAD -137 = no play
SF -152 = ML

I personally have all the plays already locked in, so hope for the best. But will be interesting based on the results of the game which plays are official with RL/ML/NO play.

[J.M. Disciple]

I think SF no play as line has dropped to -143 currently.
ARZ is also -192 now so RL play.

https://www.pinnacle.com/en/baseball/matchups/

(A) Arizona -174 to win 1u
(A) Atlanta RL -102 to win 1u
(A) LA Dodgers -152 to win 1u
(A) Milwaukee -147 to win 1u
(A) San Francisco -146 to win 1u
(A) Washington -161 to win 1u

[RockLonemilk]

Lots of action today! Love it.

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/14/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 94-4; Profit: 59.09 units
Filtered System: 21-0; Profit: 36.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 122-4; Profit: 124.67 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 63-35; 14-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 24-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 14 * 10.00
(B)
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/14/2024

(A) Arizona -174 to win 1u
(A) Atlanta RL -102 to win 1u
(A) LA Dodgers -152 to win 1u
(A) Milwaukee -147 to win 1u
(A) San Francisco -146 to win 1u
(A) Washington -161 to win 1u

Filtered

(A) Arizona -174 to win 1u
5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/13/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 93-4; Profit: 58.09 units
Filtered System: 21-0; Profit: 36.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 121-4; Profit: 123.67 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 62-35; 14-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 24-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 2 * 10.00
(B)
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/13/2024

(A) Minnesota RL -114 to win 1U

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/12/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 90-4; Profit: 55.92 units
Filtered System: 19-0; Profit: 34.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 116-4; Profit: 119.50 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 60-34; 12-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 23-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 1
(B) 2 * 16.60
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/12/2024

(B) NY Mets -153 to win 1.66U

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play

[RockLonemilk]

Looks like MIN is the play today, and probably a RL bet since their ML is -250. Can anyone confirm?

[RockLonemilk]

System has been on fire. Remember these good times for when the storm comes.

Yeah, I picked the right time to start I guess. Nice to start with some wins so I have padding for possible future losses.

[J.M. Disciple]

System has been on fire. Remember these good times for when the storm comes.

[RockLonemilk]

That was the only one left for me, and they WON!

[J.M. Disciple]

Nym B today right?

[grecycle99]

I'm seeing TB at -147, so looks like that will be a play today.

TB is -135 14 minutes before game time so not a play

[RockLonemilk]

I'm seeing TB at -147, so looks like that will be a play today.

[TwoCats]

3-0 today! Looks like I picked the right day to jump in with both feet. Let's go!

Remember to give grecycle99 some points in recognition of the work that he is doing for us all.

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/11/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 90-4; Profit: 55.92 units
Filtered System: 19-0; Profit: 34.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 116-4; Profit: 119.50 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 60-34; 12-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 23-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 10 * 10.00
(B)
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/11/2024

(A) Arizona -153 to win 1U
(A) LA Dodgers -150 to win 1U
(A) NY Mets -149 to win 1U

Watching TB -143

Filtered

(A) Arizona -153 to win 1U
(A) LA Dodgers -150 to win 1U
5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

What site was used to back test this system again? scoresandodds ? Using the closing line -190 or great for -1.5 and -189 or less for ML right? I wonder if using covers will be ok for a back test? If I wanted to go back through this season and find all the plays, what site is recommended for research?

I use pinnacle for closing lines! I don't know which ones the best for back test!

[RockLonemilk]

3-0 today! Looks like I picked the right day to jump in with both feet. Let's go!

[J.M. Disciple]

What site was used to back test this system again? scoresandodds ? Using the closing line -190 or great for -1.5 and -189 or less for ML right? I wonder if using covers will be ok for a back test? If I wanted to go back through this season and find all the plays, what site is recommended for research?

[J.M. Disciple]

Very helpful. Thank you, JM. I guess the lesson here is there are many ways to skin the Labby cat!

There was a guy in the past that ran hockey totals u5.5 or O5 and made like 400 units or something with the labby. Running like 15-30 lines or 1 line per team. idk how it all worked out but he made a killing doing it.

I wanted to pop back in and share the difference in the way I do it vs how its currently being ran.

Current system: lets say you have 3 games and I'll use -150 for this example on all bets.

Labby line: 10-10-10-10-10-10

*six numbers for 1/2 a unit per number as you are betting two #s each game. (cross 2 or add 1 when you lose)
You end up winning 2 and losing 1.

Line: 10-10-X-X-X-X-30
avg: 16.67 - 16.67 - 16.67
Next bet to win 33.34 (1.67u)

compared to my method (bet to win 1# or add 1#)
labby line: 20-20-20
Win 2- lose 1
20-X-X-30
average: 25-25
Next bet to win 25 (1.25u)

So you can see how the 2 strike method increases the bet size 25% bigger compared to the 1 strike method. Both ways you need need 2 wins to clear your line. I would have to win 1.25 two times where current system would bet to win 1.67u then next bet would be back down to 1u (less than 1 unit left on the line).

Currently just doing $10 unit size since May as i'm finding little tweaks like this in the system to make it less volatile. Instead of doing regular system, filtered system, and 5/2 system with overlapping bets I just combine other sports like NBA with MLB to help me manage the line.

The Min win put me up 21 units so far the last 6 weeks or so. Graph below. Looking forward to going back through this season and finding all the picks and odds from this year to see how the system would perform as I am missing a lot of bets still from previous months. Haven't had to risk more than 2.4u during this time frame.

I say a lot of this with confidence but I know there is no guarantee this will continue. I know there have been a couple of bad seasons in the past 15 years with this system. I just hope a new hybrid method helps reduce the variance for us all. I don't expect @grecycle to change his method any time soon though. My method would still need to be back tested.

*Again at peak profit I just reset my line back to 1u per bet.

https://gyazo.com/2cc432b464e1a1c9a657d95f3c9ded96

[RockLonemilk]

Very helpful. Thank you, JM. I guess the lesson here is there are many ways to skin the Labby cat!

[J.M. Disciple]

All 3 lines get avg out so doesn't matter if you use 1 line or 3 lines.

The way I'm doing it is very simple!!! Keeps bet sizes down.
If there are three games I would just have 3#s on my line.

$20-$20-$20.
If you win 2 and lose one using your example

20-x-x-32

Tuesday would be

26-26
Bet to win 26 next game. If you lose again

26-26-39 (-150)
30-30-30

I also reset my line to its starting point if I'm at peak profit because it doesn't make sense to me for the next day to have a bigger wager after a winning day. So in your example you would be +$8. I would stick to $20 (1u) the next set of games as well.

It might not maximize profits but keeps bet sizes in check. Lastly I just wouldn't let the line get bigger than 6-8#s. Just avg out the loss over those #s rather than adding a number to the line.

If your line is
40-40-40-40-40-40
And you take a $60 loss (60 to win 40)
My next line would just be
50-50-50-50-50 (50 x 6).

If your line gets too Long the winning streak you need to clear it will be stressful. 6 games is manageable. A few 3-1 type days will do the trick.

[RockLonemilk]

I'm trying so hard to wrap my brain around how the multiple Labby lines work for this chase, but I just keep getting more and more confused. Maybe you can help J.M. Disciple?

I understand the concept of adding losses to the end of the line and crossing off the first and last values with a win, and even re-calculating the line to average things out.

If I'm starting this chase today, what I don't understand is 1) how many numbers should be on each line, 2) if I'm betting to WIN a unit because of - odds, if I lose, do I add the amount I BET or the amount I was trying to WIN to the end of the line, 3) why 3 lines - is the A line for game 1, B for game 2, etc?

With 3 A games today and a $20 unit, would this be my A line - six numbers because there are 3 games?

10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10

If so, what would my B and C lines look like? And if, for example, I win 2 bets and lose 1 today, do I cross off 4 numbers from my A line and add one to my A line and then average it out, or does the loss get added to the B line?

Again, assuming I win 2 bets and lose 1 today (CHW for the sake of my example, which I bet $32 on the -1 Run Line at -160), would my lines then look like this?

A) 10 - 10 - 32 or, after averaging 52/3 A) 17.33 - 17.33 - 17.33
B) 10 - 10

If that's correct, then would I bet to win $20 again on CWS tomorrow since that's now game 2 (B Labby line)? Or does the 32 go to the B line, and I'd bet to win $42 tomorrow?

Any clarification you or anyone else can provide would be greatly appreciated, because I can't find anything useful with a Google search re: running multiple Labby lines!

Quick question to make sure I am doing this right on my labby line.

I am using $10 unit sizes so $5-$5-$5-$5 starting line.

Yesterday my line went from $87.98 / 11 or betting to win $16 or 1.6u a game.

After I went 3-1 yesterday my new line I removed 6 #s from the line and added 1 number for the cross 2 & add 1.

New line became 56.78 / 6

But today I have 6 plays, so I need 12 numbers on my line. So I added $30 to my line and made a new line of
$86.78 / 12

Does this sound right? Basically just add 1/2 a unit for each number you add to your line if you don't have enough open #s already on the line.

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/10/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 84-4; Profit: 49.56 units
Filtered System: 19-0; Profit: 34.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 110-4; Profit: 113.14 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 54-34; 12-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 23-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 6 * 11.18
(B)
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/10/2024

(A) Minnesota RL -109 to win 1.12U
(A) San Diego RL +104 to win 1.12U
(A) Seattle RL -107 to win 1.12U

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/08/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 84-4; Profit: 49.56 units
Filtered System: 19-0; Profit: 34.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 110-4; Profit: 113.14 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 54-34; 12-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 23-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 3 * 12.36
(B)
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/08/2024

No Play

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/07/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 83-4; Profit: 49.41 units
Filtered System: 19-0; Profit: 34.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 109-4; Profit: 112.99 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 54-33; 12-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 22-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 3 * 12.36
(B) 2 * 12.36
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/07/2024

(B) St Louis RL -181 to win 1.24U

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play

[grecycle99]

Sund and J.M. Disciple, you are both right. Thanks

[grecycle99]

UPDATED for 06/06/2024

System(s) record Chase :

Regular system: 83-4; Profit: 49.41 units
Filtered System: 19-0; Profit: 34.58 units
5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

Total (3 systems) : 109-4; Profit: 112.99 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

Game 1 (A) win = 54-33; 12-7; 5-2
Game 2 (B) win = 22-11; 5-2; 2-0
Game 3 (C) win = 7-4; 2-0

Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

(A) 4 * 10
(B)
(C)

REGULAR FOR 06/06/2024

(A) St Louis RL -109 to win 1U

Filtered

No Play

5/2

No Play