Kirby Zhang's Moneyline & Investments. Write-ups and picks for Sunday August 23

Mikail · 08-23-09, 03:06 AM

Thanks for your effort! Let's tear sh@t up tomorrow!

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 03:18 AM

yep!

TunaRoll · 08-23-09, 03:42 AM

Thanks for the good day kirby...appreciate your work...tomorrow is my last day of making up 1,800 dolla... Bankroll at 1200.... Need help on how much to bet for tomorrow..tryna win at least 800 before the bos/yankee game so i can put the amount i win in the morning on the under fir night yank game... What you think i should do??? Thanks kirby...

Nickelicious · 08-23-09, 03:43 AM

Oh Lord, Kirby, now I am going to have to take you seriously. I am deep into progressive, hourly wagering based on early outcomes and situational betting. You have laid a blueprint for such a strategy on Sunday.

You are new to this forum and I really don't know you from Adam; but I am not only going to follow your advice, but boost your suggested units by about 50%. Why would I do this? Because of the frankness you have demonstrated so far, your track record, the reputation that precedes you, and particularly because you wouldn't knuckle under to the demands of Covers to cap for them, which resulted in you getting banned from their site (do I have those facts correct?).

Welcome again to SBR. Stick around, Kirby. You can help a lot of people make a lot of money.

TunaRoll · 08-23-09, 03:48 AM

Sure can... He was killing the books posting at covers.. Den i never seen him again til i came over to sbr...he had a bad start first posting here... But soon will kill the books again and everyone will be on his nuts ahah...love his work...

Mikail · 08-23-09, 03:51 AM

I am hearing good things about ya Kirby!. Today showed us that you do have something to offer.

dodger33 · 08-23-09, 04:51 AM

anyone smell the over in the kc/minny game tomorrow with me?

Mikail · 08-23-09, 05:03 AM

I am not too sure as I haven't looked into this game so much yet. I do know that you have a knack for pointing out early leans. Just based on my glance at the matchup the Over seems very possible!

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 10:33 AM

well a few hours of shut eye, and here I am in the office. let me address a few issues.

oiler · 08-23-09, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by dodger33

anyone smell the over in the kc/minny game tomorrow with me?

definetly smelly an aver in that game as well as an over in stl with smoltz pitching

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by TunaRoll

Thanks for the good day kirby...appreciate your work...tomorrow is my last day of making up 1,800 dolla... Bankroll at 1200.... Need help on how much to bet for tomorrow..tryna win at least 800 before the bos/yankee game so i can put the amount i win in the morning on the under fir night yank game... What you think i should do??? Thanks kirby...

First of all, I know that culture might induce you to type using an urban type tone, but for the sake of easy communication, please just type out what the hell you're trying to say, and try and refrain from words as "fir" instead of "for".... what the hell, people are trying to mis-spell words on purpose? anyway, As far as your logic goes, Situationally speaking, the money that goes into tonight's game should be the pure profit from the 1-2 games. here's why. You won't be the only person on the under, in fact if you until 6Pm eastern standard the line will have already moved to 8.5. Which I would advise against. secondly, becase you are down units, and NOT up. You need only invest the profit you gain from the morning bets. Never make one bet more important than the other ones, tomorrow is anothe day with other games. Tonight is not the last night you'll have to bet. understand, with that said if you don't make early money you should NOT bet the night game tonight.

Kirby

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

Oh Lord, Kirby, now I am going to have to take you seriously. I am deep into progressive, hourly wagering based on early outcomes and situational betting. You have laid a blueprint for such a strategy on Sunday.

You are new to this forum and I really don't know you from Adam; but I am not only going to follow your advice, but boost your suggested units by about 50%. Why would I do this? Because of the frankness you have demonstrated so far, your track record, the reputation that precedes you, and particularly because you wouldn't knuckle under to the demands of Covers to cap for them, which resulted in you getting banned from their site (do I have those facts correct?).

Welcome again to SBR. Stick around, Kirby. You can help a lot of people make a lot of money.

I am all about helping people make money, and strategic money management. This is just like the stock market, in fact some would say it is much more consistent. People would always tell me to do my homework, and there wasn't ever a reason. now I do my homework, because it pays, let's kill em today nick

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

I am hearing good things about ya Kirby!. Today showed us that you do have something to offer.

Hopefully I am able to show you again today.

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by dodger33

anyone smell the over in the kc/minny game tomorrow with me?

I will do a write up in this regard, I would rather take Minnesota than the over though I'll explain.

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:20 AM

Defense vs. Offense

Minnesota @ Kansas City
The Pick: Minnesota -104

The Twins haven't swept a series in over a year, poor guys, not that it really matters, but today they might break that stint with a chance to put Kansas City under the swept column of a non-existent chart. While the Twins are 27-36 away from home and could finish with a losing road record for a third straight season, they're 4-2 on a seven-game road trip. They are 11-3 at Kansas City since the start of the 2008 season. Seems like a sure thing. But I wouldn't ever say putting money on a losing team is a sure thing. Its just these two teams are complete opposites of each other. One struggles to score, and one struggles to have consistent pitching. Let's be frank when you think solid pitching you don't exactly think Kansas City, but the thing is they're pitching is definitely a lot more consistent than Minnesota. There is how ever a catch, I'm not going to tell you what it is, I'm going to demonstrate. Exhibit A. San Fransisco @ Cincinnati... this game was less than a week ago.. remember? Game tied 1-1. Matt Cain Pitching.... San Fran will take the loss... Solid Pitching vs. Batting. In most sports Defense wins ball games, in baseball, the more balanced team wins the ball game. Am I saying that Cincinnati is more balanced? of course! everyone on Cincinnati team is equally as shitty. If the batters were as good as the pitchers in San Fran then you think we'd even have this discussion. Take it into perspective: Pitching is ONE PERSON. that person gets tired, and his departure is eventual. Batting TAKES A TEAM. What does this have to do with Kansas City? Kansas City is the San Fransisco of the American League. This is one particular reason I do not like the over especially set so high. at 9.5. It has actually gone down to 9 now looking at line movement. If Minnesota blows KC out Kansas wil use today as a flake off day and just give up. this is not really an important game so neither teams are really motavaited. KC has lost the series, and Twins have already won. I say the pick here is Minnesota -110. (now that the line has moved towards my prediction). the total is not worth it. the total value is at 110 as well. Because the odds are identical value is no longer in the discussion. The better pick is Minnesota.

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by dodger33

anyone smell the over in the kc/minny game tomorrow with me?

hope this helps

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:41 AM

Beating the Stud, Reverse Line Movement in Colorado

San Fransisco @ Colorado:
The Pick: Colorado -103**

Speaking of San Fransisco, here they are. This, however unlike the other Kansas game is a very important game. This game defines the playoffs for these teams, and both teams have exhausted alot of energy into tis series. People always ask me about home field advantage. I always tell people the same thing, there is never one stat, or one fact that defines a teams win, or loss... If there was we'd all be at the bank, with barrels of million dollar bills and more sluts around us than there are in 900 number call-centers. Everything is situational. Well, THIS is one of thoes situation. It was supposed to be a walk in the park last night. Game One Aaron Cook Gets hurt San Fransisco catches a break. Game two De la Rosa has a bad first few... It was supposed to be a walk in the park, but nothing ever goes according to plan, when the Rockies came back 14-11 and beat San Fransisco it showed their resilance, and their need to win. Imagine how San Fransisco feels. That's twice at least that I can think of in the last few days they've blown leads and messed it all up when it matters. Not to mention San Fransisco went pretty deep into their bullpen last night. Being on the road the Giants are not offensively productive. Don't mind the 11 runs they brought home, that's an illusion accumulated from bad Rockies Defense. Today they will be mentally beat down. The bullpen has needed a long needed rest, today San Fransisco exhuastion will show. Sure Tim Lincecum has made us all some money, and sure he is a stud. But with no run support I just can't take his side, and I'm sorry, fade this play if you want. If the Giants were at home, and the bullpen didn't just blow a 6-1 lead then maybe. But I'm not going to set my self up for heartbreak. The last time the San Francisco Giants sent ace Tim Lincecum to the mound, he had one of his worst outings of the season. A start against the Colorado Rockies may not be the ideal situation for him to rebound. Lincecum hasn't pitched well against the Rockies (69-54), going 3-2 with a 4.40 ERA in eight career starts. He hasn't faced them since a 9-4 loss Sept. 23, when he allowed six runs with nine strikeouts and five walks in 4 1/3 innings. Colorado will try to win for the sixth time in seven games, and create a little more breathing room in the playoff race. Giving the ball to Ubaldo Jimenez (11-9, 3.41) could help. The right-hander is looking to extend his winning streak to six and equal the career high in victories he set last year. He's 5-0 with a 2.49 ERA in his last seven starts, and has compiled a 1.47 ERA over his last four -- all wins. Jimenez was outstanding again Tuesday, yielding two runs in eight innings of a 4-3 win at Washington. It was the third time in his last four trips to the mound that he logged eight innings. Jimenez is 2-2 with a 2.44 ERA in seven starts against the Giants, going 1-1 with a 1.38 ERA in four match ups at Coors Field. He beat them in Denver on May 6, allowing one run in seven innings of an 11-1 Rockies victory. Pay attention guys this is the trick game of the day, With reverse line movement up the ass. When I took Colorado Last night it was -103. now it is -113 with 68% of the public on San Fransisco. Look for Colorado to take care of the Giants make inflate your bank account today.

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:54 AM

This An't the American League East. This is the National League Central.

St. Louis @ San Diego
The Pick: St. Louis****

A lot of people probably think that because of John Smoltz's piss poor performance in Boston that he's going to fail miserably with St. Louis. If you know any of thoes people tell them they don't know what they are talking about. First of all, John was playing in the AL EAST. Put Matt Cain, or Tim Lincecum in the AL east and lets see if their ERAs go up or down. There are some dangerous teams out there... But the last time I checked, this was the National League. I think john will come out to St. Louis and make himself right at home. If anything I'd say a team he wouldn't do well against is the Cardinals, but since he plays for them no big deal. Remember we talked about balance right? Well, with Wainwright, Carpenter, Smoltz, and all those batters this is the team to beat this year, and it's not going to be easy, even on days they don't give a shit it's not going to be easy, I'll be pretty surprised if San Diego can split a series with these guys. You all know How I feel about first timers, but I think John has something to prove. and I say this is going to be a good game for him. The Cardinals have now taken 15 of their last 19 meetings with the Padres, including five of six this year. Smoltz has won his last four starts against San Diego, posting a 0.60 ERA, and hasn't lost to them since Sept. 15, 1999. However, he hasn't faced them at all since May 9, 2007. The Padres, losers of seven of 10, will give the ball to Cesar Carillo (1-1, 11.88 ERA), a rookie coming off his first career win.The 25-year-old right-hander allowed three runs in six innings of a 6-3 victory over Chicago on Tuesday. The performance marked a vast improvement for the Padres' 2005 first-round draft pick, who surrendered eight runs and three homers while hitting two batters in 2 1/3 innings during his Aug. 13 major league debut, a 12-9 loss at Milwaukee. Smoltz Penis in San Diego's face.

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 11:55 AM

anything else anyone wants to hear about? we are about 10 minutes away.

dodger33 · 08-23-09, 12:04 PM

thanks kirby i really appreciate the write up. i think i am going to just end up staying away. to much unknown in that game. bannister is a pretty bad pitcher but somehow during the day he morphs into some decent pitcher. if kc wasn't so terrible i would really like them because pavano is dogshit. minnesotta's offense is too potent to bet against and kc's is too anemic to bet with. i thought they would fight it out but your right kc probably doesn't have any fight. thanks again

Gnutti · 08-23-09, 12:05 PM

I wouldn't give too much attention in line movements Kirby. Yesterday there was a rlm @ St.Louis/San Diego game. I was thinking to cancel my bet but didn't do this

Nickelicious · 08-23-09, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Kirby Zhang

Okay first you should understand that you are primarily depending on Bets 2 & 3 to make you money. If you lose one, no big deal, there are solution bets, however, it is very important you understand this: Do not place Bet 4 unless you have a fair assessment of how your other bets are doing. Make your best judgment as by the time the last swing hits your Bets 2 & 3 should already be in around the 6th or 7th innings. If it looks like your about to win one bet and lose one, than place bet 4. If it looks like you'll lose both than place both bets 4 & 5, and also place a single bet on the Under in Boston.

Kirby, you explained what to do if either or both Bet 2 and 3 are losing, but what if both Bet 2 and 3 look like they are going to sweep, or win 3 out of 4? Do you lay off Bet 4 and 5 altogether because you're having a winning day, or bet them more lightly because you're having a winning day?

The progression of wagering you've outlined implies that if Bet 2 and 3 turn out to be weak, Bet 4 and 5 will be stronger and help recover losses. Is this because you have applied a certain strength index to your daily picks overall? Therefore, if early bets lose, the odds are good that later bets will win, because an all-losing day like Friday almost never comes along? Conversely, if the early bets win, the later bets are weaker, because sweeping the board is statistically improbable?

I don't want to leave any money on the table if I can claim it. Thanks for the strategies. Hope all the picks work out.

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

Kirby, you explained what to do if either or both Bet 2 and 3 are losing, but what if both Bet 2 and 3 look like they are going to sweep, or win 3 out of 4? Do you lay off Bet 4 and 5 altogether because you're having a winning day, or bet them more lightly because you're having a winning day?

The progression of wagering you've outlined implies that if Bet 2 and 3 turn out to be weak, Bet 4 and 5 will be stronger and help recover losses. Is this because you have applied a certain strength index to your daily picks overall? Therefore, if early bets lose, the odds are good that later bets will win, because an all-losing day like Friday almost never comes along? Conversely, if the early bets win, the later bets are weaker, because sweeping the board is statistically improbable?

I don't want to leave any money on the table if I can claim it. Thanks for the strategies. Hope all the picks work out.

if both bets look like they will come through only place bet four for no more then the profit that you make from one of the best, either one or two. they should both make you around the same (2 units worth) so, with that said if they look like they'll win risk less, if you lose it no big deal, you'll have a winning day.. understand?

Nickelicious · 08-23-09, 02:06 PM

Yeah, I had to go pick up my daughter from a friend's, but I got it. I'm back to studying the scoreboard. Only 3 games seem tilting strong either way and 2 are losing (Houston and White Sox). I will wait until closer to 4:00 ET to see how the others play out and how strong to play St. Louis and the Dodgers.

TunaRoll · 08-23-09, 02:39 PM

so what are we going to do now...put bet 4 in now?

MrMike · 08-23-09, 02:41 PM

I put 4 & 5 in because 2 & 3 both look like losers. That was my understanding...

TunaRoll · 08-23-09, 02:43 PM

5 is too late...rockies started already

MrMike · 08-23-09, 03:12 PM

TRIPLE PLAY TO SAVE LIDGE'S ASS!!! lol

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 03:22 PM

wow what the **** guys

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 03:23 PM

this is the workings of a shitty day. haha. okay lets see what we can do to hedge this.

MrMike · 08-23-09, 03:27 PM

There goes the Marlins...

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 03:34 PM

****ing florida.... I think Houston still may have a chance though

Mikail · 08-23-09, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Kirby Zhang

****ing florida.... I think Houston still may have a chance though

Astros are creepin back in this one.

Kirby Zhang · 08-23-09, 03:42 PM

I like the astros to come back, at least it'll do us some damage control