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  • hajune
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-04-07
    • 219

    #1
    4 baseball systems that work
    This is the first year I have tried to handicap baseball. It simply cannot be handicaped like any other sport. One player is worth 70% of the value that being the pitcher.
    In the past 3 years I've used the software from Sportrends because it works and is very easy to use. Several on this site will confirm that. But, I cannot help myself I want to handicap for myself. I have a 48,000 data base of games and attempt to research what I can. I found 4 things that work independently of actually handicapping today's game. It is based on the recent past. The software from Sportrends does the handicapping using the stats for todays games so why bother?
    Starting yesterday ( Memorial Day is my start up day) I will give you games that the 4 methods pick games. I will explain 2 of those methods but not the other 2.
    The 1st method I call the criss cross method. I simply add the home team wins and visitor loses for the home team and the reverse for the visitors. Let us say the Mets are at home and are 12-10. The visitors (Cinc) are 10 -14 away. We add up the Mets total . That is 12 home wins and 14 visitor loses for Cinc or12+14= 26. We do the same for Cinc 10+10 =20 At this pace the Mets win 26 times and lose 20 times. If todays game was based on this the Mets should be a-130 favorite and Ciny a 130 dog. We next compare todays line. We are looking for lines that are off by 30 or more in relationship to the line we estaablished. If for example NY was a +110 dog. Line is off 40 because they should be at -130. Mets are the play. If Cinc was a +180 dog they would be a play because line is off 50.
    This method will realize a profit if used with some common sense.
    Games for May26 (at 8.00 in the morning) that qualified are Fla, Tex, NyM, Milw, Minn. LAD, SD, and Atl. More games then normal. In a 500 game sampling it produced a 12% profit. One of those games I am throwing out. Will tell you why tomorrow.
    Tomorrow I will go over another method and some common sense additional rules. Yesterday the 4 method produced a nice profit. I will update it on a regular basis. For those looking for replys from me I will get to you whenever I can.
    Method 4 also has 3 plays today. Balt, Oak, Cinc.
    No plays method 2 and 3
    cheers
  • hajune
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-04-07
    • 219

    #2
    update May 26th 1:30 Eastern time
    What line should be what line is
    Balt -149 +107
    Fla -131 +112
    Mets -200 -140
    LaD -141 +142
    CWS +133 +173
    SD +114 +159
    ATL +115 +157
    Two Teams taken out because they are cold
    May 25th results
    LAD -116 +133 won
    KC NP cold
    FLA -112 +112 won
    NYM -186 -148 won
    Chi C -180 -142 np cold team
    both cold teams lost Difintion of a cold team lost 4 of last 5 or 7 of last 10
    Totals 3-0 +3.45 units
    System 2 was Cinc won +108
    Pitt won +142
    Minn lost _+112
    2-1 +150 units
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    • jakeandba
      SBR MVP
      • 01-13-09
      • 1033

      #3
      question, according to your comment regarding what the line should be your list excludes 3 teams, Tx Mil and Minn. I am guessing those 3 teams should not be bet b/c they are cold. But the rangers are 6-4 over the last 10, milw is 6-4 over last 10 and minn is 4-6. So all three are disqualified due to them being cold? Can you explain?
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      • Axis
        SBR MVP
        • 01-08-09
        • 1255

        #4
        So, tomorrow...how many games that lose are you going to say you didn't play for some strange reason?

        Unless you play to be honest about this, unlike NCAA Basketball
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        • MexicanStallion
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-08-08
          • 20429

          #5
          Why would you be throwing out a play and then say you will post tomorrow? For some reason I have a feeling the game you throw out will be a loss, but it won't count. Just post what plays follow the system and let the system play itself out. Best of luck though
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          • hajune
            SBR High Roller
            • 09-04-07
            • 219

            #6
            Originally posted by jakeandba
            question, according to your comment regarding what the line should be your list excludes 3 teams, Tx Mil and Minn. I am guessing those 3 teams should not be bet b/c they are cold. But the rangers are 6-4 over the last 10, milw is 6-4 over last 10 and minn is 4-6. So all three are disqualified due to them being cold? Can you explain?
            There are 2 times you do not play games. If the team you want to play has won only 1 of the last 5 or 3 of the last 10. However we do not play against teams that have won 4 of the last 5 and 7 of the last 10. I can offer a more sophisticated method of hot and cold teams, but not at this time. Method works!
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            • hajune
              SBR High Roller
              • 09-04-07
              • 219

              #7
              Originally posted by Axis
              So, tomorrow...how many games that lose are you going to say you didn't play for some strange reason?

              Unless you play to be honest about this, unlike NCAA Basketball
              You are an idiot. Go somewhere off and be an idiot. Never do I say anything that is nothing short of honest. Put up $5000 and we can have a contest in basketball. Of course you do not have $5000 . you are a loser. I can spot em a mile away
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              • DeeWizzle
                SBR MVP
                • 03-08-09
                • 3316

                #8
                Let me know how that works for u. Curious to see the outcome.
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                • hajune
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-04-07
                  • 219

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MexicanStallion
                  Why would you be throwing out a play and then say you will post tomorrow? For some reason I have a feeling the game you throw out will be a loss, but it won't count. Just post what plays follow the system and let the system play itself out. Best of luck though
                  Are there that many people like you. I gave you the formula on how to find games. I am not your daddy. If you want to use it get off your ass and do the figuring. It is not hard to learn. I am not here to do this for YOU. I have little time. The Michigan State guy who just responded before you IS AN IDIOT. I gave out the formula. He is not smart enough to figure it out.dah. You need to have an 8th grade mentality or else it will not be for you. I am not going to post the plays every day but will for a while I will post the results. I do not guarantee it will even work. A 500 game sample may not be enough. Anybody who does the figures knows the plays. I gain NOTHING from doing this. If you need help figuring out how to use this I will help you.
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                  • hajune
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 09-04-07
                    • 219

                    #10
                    I am not going to respond to any negative posts. I will help anybody who wants to use this for themselves. Complainers are telling you by complaining they are failing. They think they are victims and bitch about anything.i have no patiece with them. If this post becomes a burden I will stop. I do not need it. The truth is I am very very good handicapping football and basketball. I am 14-1 in the last 15 NBA games after starting at 9-8.That can be confirmed but can care less in stating that. my 5 students willl confirm the results and are very excited about football coming up. When I gave seminars or talked on the radio most were compelled by what I said. I have facts to back up every thing I do. Baseball was never a game I tried to handicap until this year. 70% is pitching. Also starters pitch about 6 innings. Who is going to pitch the next 3? I have researched the 4 methods for 500 + games. One of them I researched ,I had a 48,000 game sample.(10 years )It works and works super well especially in the second half of the season. I do not handicap today's games but rather then the immediate past games to get my plays. Sportrends already has an inexpensive program that handicap info from today's games. It would takes hours of manual work to duplicate it and then it might be inferior.
                    To most of you
                    cheers
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                    • G's pks
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-01-09
                      • 22251

                      #11
                      Originally posted by hajune
                      You are an idiot. Go somewhere off and be an idiot. Never do I say anything that is nothing short of honest. Put up $5000 and we can have a contest in basketball. Of course you do not have $5000 . you are a loser. I can spot em a mile away

                      Hajune... Axis asked a question,,,do not be insulting other members... Otherwise your posts will be reported...
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                      • G's pks
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-01-09
                        • 22251

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hajune
                        Are there that many people like you. I gave you the formula on how to find games. I am not your daddy. If you want to use it get off your ass and do the figuring. It is not hard to learn. I am not here to do this for YOU. I have little time. The Michigan State guy who just responded before you IS AN IDIOT. I gave out the formula. He is not smart enough to figure it out.dah. You need to have an 8th grade mentality or else it will not be for you. I am not going to post the plays every day but will for a while I will post the results. I do not guarantee it will even work. A 500 game sample may not be enough. Anybody who does the figures knows the plays. I gain NOTHING from doing this. If you need help figuring out how to use this I will help you.
                        Hajune insulting in another post... This will not be tolerated... Hopefully you send Axis a private message and apoligize!
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                        • million2one
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-19-09
                          • 1290

                          #13
                          hajune,

                          do you use the criss-cross methods for NFL and NBA factoring home and road records?
                          I tried with MLB a few years ago, only small time but I remember I made some money.
                          Your methods look better than mine though.

                          Good Stuff, I'd be interested to see how this turns out.
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                          • MexicanStallion
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-08-08
                            • 20429

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hajune
                            Are there that many people like you. I gave you the formula on how to find games. I am not your daddy. If you want to use it get off your ass and do the figuring. It is not hard to learn. I am not here to do this for YOU. I have little time. The Michigan State guy who just responded before you IS AN IDIOT. I gave out the formula. He is not smart enough to figure it out.dah. You need to have an 8th grade mentality or else it will not be for you. I am not going to post the plays every day but will for a while I will post the results. I do not guarantee it will even work. A 500 game sample may not be enough. Anybody who does the figures knows the plays. I gain NOTHING from doing this. If you need help figuring out how to use this I will help you.
                            I'm not against you or anything. I just thought if was fishy that you said you would leave out a play and then explain for tomorrow. That's all. I hope your system works out though. I'm not against winning at all. Just would like to see honest results. Good luck
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                            • denali7432
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 05-25-09
                              • 11

                              #15
                              ok im not sure if i did it right please let me know if i did..but the picks for wednesday the 27th according to this system are

                              blue jays
                              dodgers
                              phillies
                              mets
                              yankees
                              padres
                              angels
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                              • hajune
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 09-04-07
                                • 219

                                #16
                                todays games
                                Met game drops. Play calls for opposite teams on other system
                                Will update later with figures
                                Ariz + 146 should be -122
                                cws +179 +134
                                fla +174 +119
                                Balt +152 -130 caution Holiday pitdhing. oneof 3 best
                                LAD +115 -127
                                minn -118 -165
                                Method 4 plays are the Dod , Balt, S F . Mets drop they are at -260. I play no games at -2000 or more. will gladly play dogs at +200 or more.
                                Yesterday I was 4-3 +2.26 units I use Covers final amount
                                method 4 was 3-0 + 3.something All dogs!
                                will update 2 day totals later.
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                                • Panekkkk
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-12-09
                                  • 2430

                                  #17
                                  Hi hajune,

                                  Interesting stuff.

                                  Are you going to explain Method 4? Do you have any preference of one over the other?
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                                  • denali7432
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 05-25-09
                                    • 11

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by denali7432
                                    ok im not sure if i did it right please let me know if i did..but the picks for wednesday the 27th according to this system are

                                    blue jays
                                    dodgers
                                    phillies
                                    mets
                                    yankees
                                    padres
                                    angels
                                    ok i did it wrong do not go with these..
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                                    • swifty
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-22-06
                                      • 672

                                      #19
                                      Tor over Balt is my pick, tor is on a losing streak and will break out tonight game. 0-8.. Balt wil lose 7-2 ..

                                      my pick of day.....Toronto
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                                      • Axis
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-08-09
                                        • 1255

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by hajune
                                        You are an idiot. Go somewhere off and be an idiot. Never do I say anything that is nothing short of honest. Put up $5000 and we can have a contest in basketball. Of course you do not have $5000 . you are a loser. I can spot em a mile away
                                        Awe...you mad someone remembered??

                                        Yes, I have 5,000, but I would not bet what I don't wish to possibly lose. See, honesty.

                                        Best of luck with this, but you know exactly what I'm talking about with your wishy-washy basketball plays...I was just letting people know not to dive in head first with all of these "working systems" of yours right off the get go...
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                                        • Axis
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-08-09
                                          • 1255

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by hajune
                                          Are there that many people like you. I gave you the formula on how to find games. I am not your daddy. If you want to use it get off your ass and do the figuring. It is not hard to learn. I am not here to do this for YOU. I have little time. The Michigan State guy who just responded before you IS AN IDIOT. I gave out the formula. He is not smart enough to figure it out.dah. You need to have an 8th grade mentality or else it will not be for you. I am not going to post the plays every day but will for a while I will post the results. I do not guarantee it will even work. A 500 game sample may not be enough. Anybody who does the figures knows the plays. I gain NOTHING from doing this. If you need help figuring out how to use this I will help you.
                                          It's not that I can't figure it out, it's simple math...I was just wondering what was going to change about it half way through the season...that's all...as I said...best of luck...hope it does well...

                                          Serious question...

                                          Did you wait this long becasue you wanted a good sample of games for this season?? or should people still wait for better results...because I know about a 1/4 of the season has now been played...
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                                          • hajune
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 09-04-07
                                            • 219

                                            #22
                                            8-1 system 4

                                            Could not get back yesterday.
                                            System 1 went 3-1. I had 6 games posted but 2 dropped because of win ose record.They went 1-1 for a slight profit
                                            yesterday
                                            Balt w +139
                                            LaD w +135
                                            Minn w -134
                                            ChWS L +189
                                            Fla w but no play at +119
                                            Ariz L no play +146
                                            Method 4 was 3-0 again
                                            Balt +139
                                            LAD +132
                                            SF +103
                                            This system is 8-1 since its start lots of dogs
                                            System 1 all nice winning days with lots of dogs.
                                            todays plays
                                            System 4
                                            Cleve
                                            system 1 Minn is at +108 should be -165
                                            I am 14-1 in last 15 NBA games. No plays yesterday and none today but a heavy lean on Cleve
                                            Will read the non idiot posts this week. Do not bother me with negative crap. Will not respond to it
                                            As to the rest of you
                                            cheers
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                                            • Foghorn
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 01-28-09
                                              • 461

                                              #23
                                              It seems that method 4 is producing nicely. Are you going to share that method, or only post the plays?

                                              Good Luck.........
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                                              • hajune
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-04-07
                                                • 219

                                                #24
                                                Decided not to post any more. 99% of the people who come here are losers. I think most of you know that.
                                                I have no patience with people who continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results. That is the definition of insanity.
                                                Have no patience with complainers. They are telling you they are failing. That is why they complain.
                                                You would have had a most compelling season using my plays. I did not post them that I should do all the work ahow you how to do it and then hear the bitching. Been around a long time and can spot a loser in a minute.
                                                If some of you were to play for Bobby Knight and you would not conform to the fundamentals he taught you he'd kick you of the team. Should never have started this. young people are often on here and life's experience has not taught them that hard work and smart work is the only way you can suceed. Most like to mooch whenever they can. Gave some of you an opportunity to learn something that works and you want me to give you the plays for nothing while I poured over 1000 hours into this. I Am not your daddy. Grow up. I was going to show you 3 of 4 methods and give you the plays for the other one. It was 8-1 so far. mostly dogs. The other was up over 5 units in only a very short time. This will be my last post. I might respond to other posts but I learned my lesson. I have 3 students I am teaching my methods.They are extemely pleased,to say the least. I guarantee the basketball and football to be over 60%. They are very very happy about the new found method of handicapping.
                                                cheers
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                                                • Reggie Dunlop
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                  • 180

                                                  #25
                                                  Why did Arizona become a no play yesterday? Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? You keep screaming like people are attacking you and I haven't seen what you are describing.
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                                                  • kmarinouofm
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 8437

                                                    #26
                                                    well i guess congrats.. don't really know how else to respond to a post like that ..
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                                                    • BillAccpetor
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-07-09
                                                      • 790

                                                      #27
                                                      Stop the flame haters!
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                                                      • Axis
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-08-09
                                                        • 1255

                                                        #28
                                                        ^^
                                                        I asked him a question, and instead of answering it, he decided to call me an idiot, because he knew exactly what I was talking about...

                                                        It was a simple question...yes, or no.
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                                                        • DeeWizzle
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-08-09
                                                          • 3316

                                                          #29
                                                          Drama
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                                                          • Milwaukee
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 02-10-09
                                                            • 69

                                                            #30
                                                            I hope you come back hajune an tell use how we bet baseball. Your system 1 are very good!!
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