What happens if Oakland wins and all these parlays aren't complete, how do you even know if you would be playing a (D) bet tomorrow? Just like Tampa Bay yesterday. What if that soccer game loses Saturday, and you never had a chance to play the (D) bet that you skipped because you thought you were going to be an automatic winner betting soccer games in an MLB system. This is all so stupid. Then, the option is either to take a loss on a play that actually won, or play your (D) bet later which is completely out of order of where it should be played and defies any system criteria. Systems that have this many plays every day usually get crushed, now I see why. There is no way in hell your previous backtested results that you shared with everyone to get followers included all this nonsense, which means, there has never actually been a backtest of this syste. Anyone who blindly follows any system that has not been thoroughly tested is as foolish as the guy posting it.
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#1576Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#1577The system records should be kept as if it were played to a tee, by the rules. Then you could do whatever you want on the side and keep your own records separate since you have all your spreadsheets anyway. That way integrity of the "system" is correct, since most people play it as dictated by your rules, regardless of how big unit size bets get.
JmoComment -
whtsox13SBR MVP
- 05-02-12
- 1401
#1578What a cluster-fukk.Comment -
alexknycSBR Wise Guy
- 03-22-11
- 861
#1579Nine parlays? I'm good with parlays designed to reduce juice on big bets and I'm willing to go with a team I've heard of in European soccer but four soccer teams was out of my comfort zone.
I just sacked up and took Oakland ML. Had a huge amount at risk but I don't know shit about Austrian or Portuguese soccer so the nine parlays were right out. ML was a real risk and, if I were smart, I'd have taken RL but I've been screwed by one-run wins and didn't want that to happen here. As it turns out, I'd have been fine but that's all in hindsight. I consider myself quite fortunate to have won such a big bet and hope to never have to do that again.
Good luck to those who parlayed. Hope all nine hit for you.Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1580What happens if Oakland wins and all these parlays aren't complete, how do you even know if you would be playing a (D) bet tomorrow? Just like Tampa Bay yesterday. What if that soccer game loses Saturday, and you never had a chance to play the (D) bet that you skipped because you thought you were going to be an automatic winner betting soccer games in an MLB system. This is all so stupid. Then, the option is either to take a loss on a play that actually won, or play your (D) bet later which is completely out of order of where it should be played and defies any system criteria. Systems that have this many plays every day usually get crushed, now I see why. There is no way in hell your previous backtested results that you shared with everyone to get followers included all this nonsense, which means, there has never actually been a backtest of this syste. Anyone who blindly follows any system that has not been thoroughly tested is as foolish as the guy posting it.
oh and btw
Systems that have this many plays every day usually get crushedLast edited by Stifler; 08-15-13, 06:11 PM.Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1581Nine parlays? I'm good with parlays designed to reduce juice on big bets and I'm willing to go with a team I've heard of in European soccer but four soccer teams was out of my comfort zone.
I just sacked up and took Oakland ML. Had a huge amount at risk but I don't know shit about Austrian or Portuguese soccer so the nine parlays were right out. ML was a real risk and, if I were smart, I'd have taken RL but I've been screwed by one-run wins and didn't want that to happen here. As it turns out, I'd have been fine but that's all in hindsight. I consider myself quite fortunate to have won such a big bet and hope to never have to do that again.
Good luck to those who parlayed. Hope all nine hit for you.Comment -
illisdreSBR Sharp
- 06-22-12
- 360
#1582
"my theory is... the amount of losses have accumulated like a chain reaction, a firmer filter may be needed here."Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#158315.08.2013
S1
(A Bet) Stl fade: Pittsburgh 2,13 0,885u
S2
(A Bet) Pit fade: St.louis 1,82 1,22u
S3
(D Bet) Hou fade: Oak 1,333 3,00u|Oak+Ger 1,705 5,674u|Oak+Bayern+BVB 1,989 9,782u | multiply parlays - open
(C Bet) Oak: Oakland 1,333 3,00u | Oakland 1,417 9,592u | multiply parlays - open
(A Bet) Det: Detroit 1,518 1,93u
(A Bet) SD: San Diego 1,709 1,41u
(A Bet) CHW fade: Minnesota 1,73 1,37u
P1
(B Bet) M.Buehrle: Toronto -1,5 2,55 0,645u | Toronto 2,15 1,43u
(A Bet) D.Haren: Washington -1,5 2,34 0,746u
P2
(A Bet) D.Haren: Washington 1,641 1,56u
S1: W 38 | L 1 (+10,285 units)
S2: W 34 | L 5 (-32,622 units)
S3: W 179 | L 7 (-4,445 units)
P1: W 22 | L 1 (+13,971 units)
P2: W 41 | L 3 (-1,25 units)
P3: W 45 | L 1 (+29,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, D Bet on next start on the road
- P3 G.Gonzalez, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 B.Norris fade, D Bet on next start
- P2 B.Norris, D Bet on next start
- P1 D.Fister, D Bet on next start
- P1 D.Price, D Bet on next start
- P3 H.Kuroda, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- P2 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 16.08.2013
- S2 LAA, D Bet on 16.08.2013
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
- S3 Oak, C Bet open till wekkend
- S3 Hou fade, D Bet open till weekend
- S3 TB, B Bet open till weekend
- S3 SD, b Bet on 16.08.2013
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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Last edited by Stifler; 08-16-13, 04:23 AM.Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1584- watch out, this S1 Stl fade B Bet is not the one played yesterday.
16.08.2013
S1
(B Bet) Stl fade: Cincinnati 1,752 1,33u | Cubs 2,31 1,779u
S2
(D Bet) LAA: LAA 1,962 1,04u | LAA 2,35 1,511u | LAA 2,04 3,414u | LAA 1,61 11,418u
S3
(B Bet) SD: San Diego 1,709 1,41u | SD 1,725 3,324u
(A Bet) LAA: LAA 1,61 1,64u
(A Bet) Balti: Baltimore 1,556 1,80u
P2
(A Bet) Z.Greinke: Dodgers 1,926 1,08u
P3
(A Bet) J.Niese: NY Mets 2,27 0,787u
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#1585the outcome of the mlb game decides if the series continues or ends. I wont comment all the other bs written here, cause i honestly dont care at all. Backtests were made, thats what i can tell, ofc im not expecting numbers like that, but i already said that multiply times.
oh and btw
system is falling down 2H, thats correct. I do have a theory for that, but im not going to explain it here. And still i can tell that the system is +units. Very crushy....Comment -
hj443SBR Rookie
- 06-02-13
- 12
#1587goodComment -
and24SBR Sharp
- 11-11-10
- 334
#1588Stifler has never issued guarantee he would make profit at the end of season and repeatedly told that nobody had to play as he does.
Therefore you don't have any rights to complain about neither him nor his style.Comment -
sportscreep1SBR Sharp
- 03-02-10
- 292
#1589If you say so! But with 19 open bets and your BOGUS stats barely even showing a profit, I wouldn't exactly call this profitable. Actually, I wouldn't even call it a system anymore. It's starting to crumble like the NBA "system" did, and expose you for the fraud you are. At least in the NBA the stats were accurate, unlike this mess where the results are completely fabricated so you can pat yourself on the back for something that really isn't. You can post whatever stats you want, but anyone who played this system the way you laid it out knows they are down money, and posting fake profits isn't going to bring their money back.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#1590I don't have exact figures, but the system played correctly overall is still profitable (not including open series), not a lot but I believe it's about 13 units up. I don't agree with posting the records based on parlays made by the one individual, instead of posting 2 diff records personal and official system, but I have personally parlayed a couple d bets to reduce amount wagered, but they won, and I still only do it to win the 1 unit or 2 based on the play. Last year was way up so system still good.Comment -
mrk77SBR Hustler
- 05-10-12
- 97
#1591I don't see Stifler boasting about anything. Wallco, you have a chip on your shoulder and need to relax man lolComment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1592
16.08.2013
S1
(B Bet) Stl fade: Cincinnati 1,752 1,33u | Cubs 2,31 1,779u
S2
(D Bet) LAA: LAA 1,962 1,04u | LAA 2,35 1,511u | LAA 2,04 3,414u | LAA 1,61 11,418u
S3
(B Bet) SD: San Diego 1,709 1,41u | SD 1,725 3,324u
(A Bet) LAA: LAA 1,61 1,64u
(A Bet) Balti: Baltimore 1,556 1,80u
P2
(A Bet) Z.Greinke: Dodgers 1,926 1,08u
P3
(A Bet) J.Niese: NY Mets 2,27 0,787u
records:
S1: W 39 | L 1 (+11,285 units)
S2: W 34 | L 6 (-50,005 units)
S3: W 179 | L 7 (-4,445 units)
P1: W 22 | L 1 (+13,971 units)
P2: W 42 | L 3 (-0,25 units)
P3: W 46 | L 1 (+30,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, D Bet on next start on the road
- P3 G.Gonzalez, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 B.Norris fade, D Bet on next start
- P2 B.Norris fade, D Bet on next start
- P1 D.Fister, D Bet on next start
- P1 D.Price, D Bet on next start
- P3 H.Kuroda, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- P2 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
- S3 Oak, C Bet open till wekkend
- S3 Hou fade, D Bet open till weekend
- S3 TB, B Bet open till weekend
- S3 SD, C Bet on 17.08.2013
- S3 LAA, B Bet on 17.08.2013
- S3 Balti, B Bet on 17.08.2013
________________________________________ _____________________________________
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Last edited by Stifler; 08-17-13, 05:01 AM.Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1593P1
(C Bet) B.Norris fade: Houston 3,23 0,448u | San Diego 2,15 1,259u| San Francisco -1,5 2,90 1,425u
P2
(C Bet) B.Norris fade: Houston 3,23 0,448u | San Diego 2,15 1,259u | San Francisco 1,87 3,11u
records:
S1: W 39 | L 1 (+11,285 units)
S2: W 34 | L 6 (-50,005 units)
S3: W 179 | L 7 (-4,445 units)
P1: W 22 | L 2 (+10,839 units)
P2: W 42 | L 3 (-5,067 units)
P3: W 46 | L 1 (+30,751 units)
pending:
- P3 U.Jimenez, D Bet on next start on the road
- P3 G.Gonzalez, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Fister, D Bet on next start
- P1 D.Price, D Bet on next start
- P3 H.Kuroda, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- P2 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
- S3 Oak, C Bet open till wekkend
- S3 Hou fade, D Bet open till weekend
- S3 TB, B Bet open till weekend
- S3 SD, C Bet on 17.08.2013
- S3 LAA, B Bet on 17.08.2013
- S3 Balti, B Bet on 17.08.2013
________________________________________ _____________________________________
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1594- i have listed P1/P2 B.Norris series as a starting B Bet due to the missed A Bet i also missed (explained 1 post above)
17.08.2013
S3
(C Bet) SD: San Diego 1,709 1,41u | SD 1,725 3,324u | SD 1,787 7,286u
(B Bet) LAA: LAA 1,61 1,64u | LAA 1,478 5,523u
(B Bet) Balti: Baltimore 1,556 1,80u | Baltimore 1,535 5,234u
P1
(D Bet) D.Fister: Det rl 1,901 1,11u | Det rl 2,30 1,623u | Det rl 2,36 2,745u | Detroit-1,5 1,99 6,543u
(B Bet) B.Norris: Baltimore -1,5 2,09 0,917u
P2
(B Bet) B.Norris: Baltimore 1,535 1,869u
P3
(D Bet) U.Jimenez: Cle 2,36 0,735u | Cle 2,11 1,563u | Cle 1,99 3,331u | Cleveland 2,27 5,22u
(B Bet) H.Kuroda: Yankees 2,14 0,877u | Yankees 2,15 1,632u
(A Bet) D.Fister: Detroit 1,478 2,09u
(A Bet) T.Wood fade: St.Louis 1,746 1,34uComment -
fizzer555SBR Rookie
- 06-13-12
- 7
#1595Stifler,
Norris didn't start that game for Baltimore on the 14th August.
It was a 14-innings game and having used 8 pitchers already the Orioles had to turn to Norris. I remember it well - with money on the Orioles his first 8 pitches were all balls and he ended up taking the loss!Comment -
skyscrapersSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-02-11
- 6163
#1596Stifler,
Norris didn't start that game for Baltimore on the 14th August.
It was a 14-innings game and having used 8 pitchers already the Orioles had to turn to Norris. I remember it well - with money on the Orioles his first 8 pitches were all balls and he ended up taking the loss!
Today should be just the D bets and no B bets.Comment -
vigsterSBR MVP
- 09-18-12
- 1032
#1597Anyone else playing the two B bets on Balt?Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1598
Its a bit tricky i have to admit, but if i would have backtested it i would go with that stats. Feel free to play the D bet today, i wont....Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1599
17.08.2013
S3
(C Bet) SD: San Diego 1,709 1,41u | SD 1,725 3,324u | SD 1,787 7,286u
(B Bet) LAA: LAA 1,61 1,64u | LAA 1,478 5,523u
(B Bet) Balti: Baltimore 1,556 1,80u | Baltimore 1,535 5,234u
P1
(D Bet) D.Fister: Det rl 1,901 1,11u | Det rl 2,30 1,623u | Det rl 2,36 2,745u | Detroit-1,5 1,99 6,543u
(B Bet) B.Norris: Baltimore -1,5 2,09 0,917u
P2
(B Bet) B.Norris: Baltimore 1,535 1,869u
P3
(D Bet) U.Jimenez: Cle 2,36 0,735u | Cle 2,11 1,563u | Cle 1,99 3,331u | Cleveland 2,27 5,22u
(B Bet) H.Kuroda: Yankees 2,14 0,877u | Yankees 2,15 1,632u
(A Bet) D.Fister: Detroit 1,478 2,09u
(A Bet) T.Wood fade: St.Louis 1,746 1,34u
records:
S1: W 39 | L 1 (+11,285 units)
S2: W 34 | L 6 (-50,005 units)
S3: W 182 | L 7 (-1,445 units)
P1: W 23 | L 3 (-0,182 units)
P2: W 43 | L 3 (-4,067 units)
P3: W 49 | L 1 (+33,751 units)
pending:
- P3 G.Gonzalez, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Price, D Bet on next start
- P3 H.Kuroda, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- P2 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
- S3 Oak, C Bet open till wekkend
- S3 Hou fade, D Bet open till weekend
- S3 TB, B Bet open till weekend
________________________________________ _____________________________________
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#160018.08.2013
S2
(A Bet) Ari fade: Pittsburgh 1,794 1,26u
P3
(B Bet) M.Bumgarner: San Francisco 2,15 0,87u | SF 1,617 3,031u
(B Bet) G.Gonzalez: Washington 2,25 0,80u | Washington 2,24 1,452u
(A Bet) C.Sabathia fade: Boston 1,813 1,23uComment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1601S3
(C Bet) TB: Tampa Bay 1,513 1,95u | TB + ger 1,652 4,525u | Tampa+Bayern+BVB 1,948 7,885u
(D Bet) Hou fade: Oak 1,333 3,00u|Oak+Ger 1,705 5,674u|Oak+Bayern+BVB 1,989 9,782u | multiply parlays
(C Bet) Oak: Oakland 1,333 3,00u | Oakland 1,417 9,592u | multiply parlays
1. Oakland + RB Salzburg + Sporting Lisbon + Ajax Amsterdam + Dortmund + Bayern 6,12 3u
2. Oakland -1,5 + RB Salzburg + Sporting Lisbon + Ajax Amsterdam + Dortmund + Bayern 8,24 1u
3. Oakland + Dortmund + Bayern 2,11 2u
4. Oakland -1,5 + Dortmund + Bayern -1,5 4,07 1u
5. RB Salzburg + Sporting Lisbon + Ajax Amsterdam + Dortmund + Bayern 4,18 1u
6. Oakland + Sporting Lisbon + Ajax 2,81 1u
7. Oakland + Salzburg 2,21 1u
8. Oak -1,5 + Salzburg -1 + Sporting -1/-1,5 + Ajax -1/-1,5 + BVB -2/-2,5 + Bayern -1,5 46,75 0,5u
9. Oak + Sporting + Bayern -1,5 + Ajax -1/-1,5 + BVB -2/-2,5 + Salzburg -1 23,88 0,5u
make it overall for both Oakland series: -35,018 units
records:
S1: W 39 | L 1 (+11,285 units)
S2: W 34 | L 6 (-50,005 units)
S3: W 185 | L 7 (-35,463 units)
P1: W 23 | L 3 (-0,182 units)
P2: W 43 | L 3 (-4,067 units)
P3: W 49 | L 1 (+33,751 units)
pending:
- P3 G.Gonzalez, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Price, D Bet on next start
- P3 H.Kuroda, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, B Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- P2 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
________________________________________ _____________________________________
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1602
S1: W 39 | L 1 (+11,285 units)
S2: W 34 | L 6 (-50,005 units)
S3: W 185 | L 7 (-35,463 units)
P1: W 23 | L 3 (-0,182 units)
P2: W 43 | L 3 (-4,067 units)
P3: W 49 | L 1 (+33,751 units)
pending:
- P3 G.Gonzalez, C Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Price, D Bet on next start
- P3 H.Kuroda, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- P2 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start on the road
- S2 Ari fade, B Bet on 19.08.2013
________________________________________ _____________________________________
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#160319.08.2013
S1
(A Bet) Col fade: Phillies 1,855 1,17u
S2
(B Bet) Ari fade: Pittsburgh 1,794 1,26u | Cincinnati 1,602 3,754u
S3
(A Bet) Cin: Cincinnati 1,602 1,661u
P1
(D Bet) D.Price: TB-1,5 2,00 1,00u | TB-1,5 2,37 1,46u | TB-1,5 1,787 4,396u | TB -1,5 2,35 5,819u
Comment -
HebodkSBR Sharp
- 01-06-10
- 321
#1604Still dealing with a 100 unit BR ??Comment -
Grinder12000SBR MVP
- 04-21-11
- 1809
#1605Pele that laugh at others losing are have the brains of children. I really don't understand why they let teenagers on this forum.
if you started with a 100 unit bankroll you are down 60. So,what's the big deal, unless you really didn't have a 100 unit bankroll. And in that case you are just fooling yourself and should not be sports wagering.Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1606
records:
S1: W 40 | L 1 (+12,285 units)
S2: W 35 | L 6 (-49,005 units)
S3: W 186 | L 7 (-34,463 units)
P1: W 23 | L 4 (-12,857 units)
P2: W 43 | L 3 (-4,067 units)
P3: W 49 | L 1 (+33,751 units)
pending:
- P3 G.Gonzalez, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 H.Kuroda, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- P1 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- P2 D.Haren, B Bet on next start
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start on the road
________________________________________ _____________________________________
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#1607P1
(A Bet) D.Haren: Washington -1,5 2,34 0,746u
P2
(A Bet) D.Haren: Washington 1,641 1,56u
records:
S1: W 40 | L 1 (+12,285 units)
S2: W 35 | L 6 (-49,005 units)
S3: W 186 | L 7 (-34,463 units)
P1: W 23 | L 4 (-13,603 units)
P2: W 43 | L 3 (-5,627 units)
P3: W 49 | L 1 (+33,751 units)
pending:
- P3 G.Gonzalez, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 H.Kuroda, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start @home
- P3 M.Bumgarner, C Bet on next start on the road
- P3 M.Scherzer, B Bet on next start on the road
- S1 Stl fade, B Bet on 22.08.2013
- P3 C.Sabathia fade, B Bet on next start on the road
________________________________________ _____________________________________
all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3
Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#160820.08.2013
S1
(A Bet) Pit fade: San Diego 2,11 0,901u
(A Bet) SD fade: Pittsburgh 1,833 1,20u
S3
(A Bet) NYY: Yankees - no line atm (game 1)
P2
(A Bet) J.Danks fade: Kansas City 1,588 1,70uComment -
HebodkSBR Sharp
- 01-06-10
- 321
#1609Pele that laugh at others losing are have the brains of children. I really don't understand why they let teenagers on this forum.
if you started with a 100 unit bankroll you are down 60. So,what's the big deal, unless you really didn't have a 100 unit bankroll. And in that case you are just fooling yourself and should not be sports wagering.Comment
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