Why Im Leaving Betislands

**lines freak** · 08-06-12, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Because he doesn't have an obvious agenda like you. His opinion is sincere while yours changes day to day, depending on how much you lose and if you can extort a free play or not. Move on, Freak.

Now I wonder why an agenda is in place

You think your doing Jon a favor by bumping these threads up but he's not happy with them

**Bill Dozer** · 08-06-12, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by lines freak

Yes, but the house edge is 52/48 with basic strategy. That means one should expect to win 48 hands out of 100. regardless how much u lay on any hand the win loss ratio should level out.

NEVER the case, so it's rigged.

No, it would mean your avg should be 48. Land casinos are the same thing. Regardless, BI uses DSI casino which is probably the most popular. It's not their proprietary stuff where they set how the computer treats you.

**lines freak** · 08-06-12, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

No, it would mean your avg should be 48. Land casinos are the same thing. Regardless, BI uses DSI casino which is probably the most popular. It's not their proprietary stuff where they set how the computer treats you.

From one who goes to AC often, there IS a difference.

**darkhat** · 08-06-12, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by lines freak

No if you are in the us you should play at the Mirage. Unfortunately we have to pay money to send fees, we have to run all over the place because they cant take ************, and then we cant talk to anybody after all is said and done.

Again, dont comment if u dont play there.

Not everyone lives in vegas or travels there every sunday.

I do play at betislands, they are my favorite book along with rebatewager. I would recommend them to anyone in the US

**physed** · 08-06-12, 04:32 PM

Bet Islands rock. They are great for USA players

**lines freak** · 08-06-12, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by darkhat

Not everyone lives in vegas or travels there every sunday.

I do play at betislands, they are my favorite book along with rebatewager. I would recommend them to anyone in the US

No what I meant is if it were allowed here, this would be the place to do it, instead of wiring money to strangers paying to do it, getting attitudes, running again to do the same thing. Worrying about getting paid, and making rollovers.

U would simply buy your ticket, and rip it up if it loses, cash if it wins. I hate offshore books but dont have much choice.

**HedgeHog** · 08-06-12, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by lines freak

Are u still posting?

Question is why are you still posting? Surely there's some casino you could be pissing your money away in right now. Don't forget to ask for your bonus after you lose.....again.

**borednaz** · 08-06-12, 07:10 PM

Betislands: Big complaint

Ok Boys,
Here it is. I've had a few negative run ins with betisland's in this last month. First I made a small deposit in between checks & decided I wanted the Freeplay bonus for my deposit. I didn't figure I would be cashing out that amount anyways. So when I setup my deposit with BI I told the rep I wanted the bonus. She said ok.

I made my deposit. I told the rep on the phone, but she apparently didn't give me the bonus. I was driving back home at the time so I couldn't check. When I got home & saw the mistake I called in & did live chat. No one wanted to fix it for me. I waited about a week for Dutch to get back to me. (He had days off). When he did, he did make things semi-right by me.

I will give BI huge credit for at least trying to make things right. I make RO but did not cash out like an idiot.

. I say to myself why not, I'll reload and take a bet on the Hall of fame game. I make a quick profit with a parlay of STL, STL/MIL U, and Under for the Hall of fame game. I make a withdrawal of my original deposit.

This is when the next problem pops it's head. I make a wager on a team that did win. They grade it as a loss taking a shot at me. I call "Wagering" to get some jerk who was rude as hell trying to tell me "Everyone knows we grade for 90 minutes". Yet no where on the wager sheet does it say 90 minutes of play. It's not clearly listed period. But the guy continues to be a jerk off.

So here I'am zero'd out, when I should be positive. Having some prikk run his mouth at me while he screws me. What a excellent book. I wrote to a few guys there and it's radio silence about helping me. If I wanted guys to zero me out for winning bets I'd play at BetOnline. Even Bovada didn't cheat me (Well after like 2-3 months lol)

**Strider** · 08-06-12, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by borednaz

Ok Boys,
This is when the next problem pops it's head. I make a wager on a team that did win. They grade it as a loss taking a shot at me. I call "Wagering" to get some jerk who was rude as hell trying to tell me "Everyone knows we grade for 90 minutes". Yet no where on the wager sheet does it say 90 minutes of play. It's not clearly listed period. But the guy continues to be a jerk off.

So here I'am zero'd out, when I should be positive. Having some prikk run his mouth at me while he screws me. What a excellent book. I wrote to a few guys there and it's radio silence about helping me. If I wanted guys to zero me out for winning bets I'd play at BetOnline. Even Bovada didn't cheat me (Well after like 2-3 months lol)

Are you saying you had Saints-3 and you lost because it was scored 7-7 at 90 minutes?

**Strider** · 08-06-12, 10:55 PM

nevermind, i see in another whiny bitch thread of yours, u dont know how to bet soccer....well at least you are a sbr pro.

**Courtesywipe** · 08-07-12, 12:03 AM

I happen to disagree. I believe customer service has actually more authority to do custom stuff with individual accounts. Ashley actually gave my 20% monthly rebate 5 days before the end of the month without me even asking.

I gave been in this game for 2 decades and betislands is second to none when it comes to making the customer happy. I have never felt so confident in a sportsbook as I do as a member of betislands. I feel comfortable leaving my funds there. I feel comfortable that if I need a few bucks in my pocket I can call up cashout a few hundred and have it in a few hours.

I have been around the block and to me having basic lines and limited sport betting opportunities is worth the peace of mind that my money is simply a phone call away.

To top it off. Ashley, the customer service representative has to have the sexiest voice if any book.

**Courtesywipe** · 08-07-12, 01:37 AM

One more thing....... I obviously give great props to the betislands as you just read. I will however agree with the player who started this thread in that...... the casino portion of BI is shady as they come. I have been playing many different sites for many different years. Betislands casino is by far the worst of them. The black jack will not let you come ahead no matter what. Management has elected to obviously set the payout as tight as

**PackAttack98** · 08-07-12, 08:31 AM

This thread is silly, BetIslands is a great book!

Gotta stand up for what is right. That's all now.

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Courtesywipe

One more thing....... I obviously give great props to the betislands as you just read. I will however agree with the player who started this thread in that...... the casino portion of BI is shady as they come. I have been playing many different sites for many different years. Betislands casino is by far the worst of them. The black jack will not let you come ahead no matter what. Management has elected to obviously set the payout as tight as

Well it's nice to say dont play there, but how many others out there dont realize its rigged.

If so many people agree that online casinos are ripoffs they should be gone.

How do we get them shut down?

Allowing it to continue is as bad as playing. It hurts everybody, they know u have a chance to win at sports but the casino they will steal it back. Its not enough to say dont play or have it closed, it should be regulated and they should be made to pay back what they steal.

This is not BI only, this is anybody who uses this software and believes they are running a fair operation.

All you have to do is play 20 hands and u will see player gets 16, dealer gets 10 to start, player busts.

Then dealer gets 16, and finds a way to get 19, 20 and push you.

I cant even count the amount of times the dealer doesnt bust on 15 or 16 the worst hand they can have. They get 19 from 16 so often, I write it as a loss before it happens.

**robmpink** · 08-07-12, 09:31 AM

I've hit big hands using this software. Someone has to win while tons of others lose.

**taxer** · 08-07-12, 09:33 AM

Hey LinesFreak genius this software is used by SBR as well , and ur askin how to shut them down..lol

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by robmpink

I've hit big hands using this software. Someone has to win while tons of others lose.

Well, that doesnt make it right. Nobody expects to win even 60% of the time but how bout one time out of every 10?

Even the worst degenerates in Vegas win that often

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by robmpink

I've hit big hands using this software. Someone has to win while tons of others lose.

Doesnt make it right if one person wins. Smokey u have lost to, dont be one of these bozos who claim to win everything they do, that gets old too.

**Fred Flintstone** · 08-07-12, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by lines freak

Yes it was, It hit 1000 and went off and stayed off for 24 hours. I was told it exceeded a daily limit, never heard of that before.

Im pretty sure it wouldnt have turned off if I lost 1000.

not sure what casino software BI uses but I can tell you that DGS has a feature that you can limit win and loss per day. Now if they are only limiting wins- then there is a big issue there- if the limit it both ways then it is just a way to protect them and the client-

on the credit end those who use DGS casino all use this feature-

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Fred Flintstone

not sure what casino software BI uses but I can tell you that DGS has a feature that you can limit win and loss per day. Now if they are only limiting wins- then there is a big issue there- if the limit it both ways then it is just a way to protect them and the client-

on the credit end those who use DGS casino all use this feature-

Thanks for that Freddie.

To me its the difference of when the dealer busts to when the player busts. Dealer doesnt bust on the small numbers player does. And the blackjacks are way too much. Its a general consensus not to insure when the dealer has an ace, because odds are he DOESNT have blackjack, he does online.

Give it a try. tell me if Im making this up. And u will lose the key hands like double downs and splits, ha, u lose both.

there is the rare streak where the dealer does bust like crazy, but it has to be a streak for it to happen, its not the norm

Watch how deadly a 2 is for the dealer, if u hit on 12 u will bust, he wont.

**Fred Flintstone** · 08-07-12, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by lines freak

Thanks for that Freddie.

To me its the difference of when the dealer busts to when the player busts. Dealer doesnt bust on the small numbers player does. And the blackjacks are way too much. Its a general consensus not to insure when the dealer has an ace, because odds are he DOESNT have blackjack, he does online.

Give it a try. tell me if Im making this up. And u will lose the key hands like double downs and splits, ha, u lose both.

there is the rare streak where the dealer does bust like crazy, but it has to be a streak for it to happen, its not the norm

Watch how deadly a 2 is for the dealer, if u hit on 12 u will bust, he wont.

I will also say this- DGS casino software is fair- it is not rigged- not sure if they use DGS- they only thing I am saying is that DGS has the feature I mentioned- a long with a few other features for w/l parameters per day or week-

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by Fred Flintstone

I will also say this- DGS casino software is fair- it is not rigged- not sure if they use DGS- they only thing I am saying is that DGS has the feature I mentioned- a long with a few other features for w/l parameters per day or week-

Fred, even Barney knows its not accurate, to call it a outright robbery is not right, but its not like the real game, regardless if they say otherwise.

But make up your mind on this issue.

**Fred Flintstone** · 08-07-12, 10:12 AM

All i told you was that there is a feature that limits w/l on DGS-

It is not rigged-

Do they use DGS? if they dont then it is a mute point

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Fred Flintstone

All i told you was that there is a feature that limits w/l on DGS-

It is not rigged-

Do they use DGS? if they dont then it is a mute point

I dont know, lets ask the international order of water buffalos, Fred.

**Fred Flintstone** · 08-07-12, 10:17 AM

I can see your a moron-

I will keep out of your agenda driven threads- you obviously are just an idiot-

take care

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Fred Flintstone

I can see your a moron-

I will keep out of your agenda driven threads- you obviously are just an idiot-

take care

Ahaaa, u were trying to play "Im on your side", only to get a point for the other team. But u lost.

No hedging allowed, I'm to smeart for you.

The thread would have been buried long ago except for the people trying to defeat me, which Im undefeated so far

**Fred Flintstone** · 08-07-12, 10:31 AM

your a retard- I say ur about 21 years old-

U lose-

now go back to your room until your parents call for u

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Fred Flintstone

your a retard- I say ur about 21 years old-

U lose-

now go back to your room until your parents call for u

haha stacking the deck with your pal to nominate u. LOL it's YOU'RE. But u cheat as much as the casino.

Dont try this technique again, u blew it.

**Fred Flintstone** · 08-07-12, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by lines freak

haha stacking the deck with your pal to nominate u. LOL it's YOU'RE. But u cheat as much as the casino.

Dont try this technique again, u blew it.

Go get laid or something- it is summer time- are you 2 fat to take your shirt off? Can't find your rooster? hit the gym- stop eating burger king- you can turn it around-

and stop gambling- YOU'RE obviously not good at it

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Fred Flintstone

Go get laid or something- it is summer time- are you 2 fat to take your shirt off? Can't find your rooster? hit the gym- stop eating burger king- you can turn it around-

and stop gambling- YOU'RE obviously not good at it

Some friend u are of the books. If Im no good at it thats who they want there. Sheesh

U really blew your cover before though, they sent the wrong bonehead on the mission.

**HedgeHog** · 08-07-12, 10:52 AM

Welcome to "The Freak Show", Day 3. His posting mirrors his casino play---he keeps coming back for more punishment. He "knows" the casino is rigged but continues to play on anyway--what a dope!

**lines freak** · 08-07-12, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Welcome to "The Freak Show", Day 3. His posting mirrors his casino play---he keeps coming back for more punishment. He "knows" the casino is rigged but continues to play on anyway--what a dope!

Yeah, see I can see the spanking im handing out here, the casino should be as easy.

Hey I just remembered something, You're boring and I'm too good for you!

Good Luck To Jon and BI, dont wish them any hardship.

time to prepare for football season. Say, i wonder who Fred has week 1, GOD id love to know!

**Strider** · 08-07-12, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by lines freak

Yeah, see I can see the spanking im handing out here, the casino should be as easy.

Hey I just remembered something, You're boring and I'm too good for you!

Good Luck To Jon and BI, dont wish them any hardship.

time to prepare for football season. Say, i wonder who Fred has week 1, GOD id love to know!

nobody gives a fuk about you.

**robmpink** · 08-07-12, 03:57 PM

Can i just post pics of a guy fu*k**g a mountain goat or pieces of poop in this thread so it moves to the private zone? I'll take the short ban.

**darkhat** · 08-07-12, 05:40 PM

Bottom Line.. Best Options For US Players hands down are these.

betislands
Rebatewager
5dimes
Heritage

If you really don't like any of those 4 you are not gonna find better.