I am feeling a need for a bitch session about sportsbook websites

**durito** · 10-06-08, 08:46 AM

at WSEX just click other amount

**pats3peat** · 10-06-08, 12:52 PM

and fk betjam for appearing too formal. the layout needs to relax a bit, and their cs is nice but they could definitely give out more freeplays

im thinking extra birthday, half-birthday, holiday freeplays.. even if just for $30-40

**Kindred** · 10-07-08, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Best software is

WSEX
GREEK
WAGERSTREET

Easy to use and get bets in with no timeouts

I'll second that, with WSEX being hands down the best. Haven't used wager street in awhile but it was good last time I used it.

Bookmaker is SLOW

**durito** · 10-07-08, 02:23 PM

wagerstreet's software is horrid

though you can abuse them with it

**hhsilver** · 10-07-08, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by thebertshow

Matchbook

For baseball, I don't like how you have to go separate places for National and American League like they are different sports. They should just line them all up on one page like everyone else.

They also break the NFL and CFB into chunks. I'd rather just scroll down a long list like everywhere else than keep clicking in and out of different areas.

I prefer matchbook the way it is vs a long one page scroll. For cfb I just open 5 tabs. For me, it's easier to click from tab to tab than it would be to scroll thru 50 games to find the one I want. In mlb also, it's no problem to use a tab for each league rather than have all games on same page. Sometimes I have a tab for a particular game when I need to see the alternate lines. Their (not there, Durito) setup requires more vertical space than, say wsex or betjm, which have spread, ml, and total all on one line.

And, Mudcat, wsex allows any amount for win or risk. It takes just a few seconds more to do this by clicking "other amt".

Question about betjam: If you bet multiple games at one time and there is a line change for one of them, can you confirm only the bets you want or do you have to start over if you do not accept the line change for that one game? ( I suppose I could email them to get the answer).

**tomcowley** · 10-07-08, 03:07 PM

When phoenix gets it all together, it'll easily be the best. Their multi-market selection is already the best (except for the blank-market popup), their 1q/1h/2h switching is better than Greek, and their multi-selection betting concept is also the best I've seen.

**pats3peat** · 10-07-08, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by tomcowley

When phoenix gets it all together, it'll easily be the best. Their multi-market selection is already the best (except for the blank-market popup), their 1q/1h/2h switching is better than Greek, and their multi-selection betting concept is also the best I've seen.

Sounds like good software. What specifically do they need to get together?

**Mudcat** · 10-08-08, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by hhsilver

I prefer matchbook the way it is vs a long one page scroll. For cfb I just open 5 tabs. For me, it's easier to click from tab to tab than it would be to scroll thru 50 games to find the one I want. In mlb also, it's no problem to use a tab for each league rather than have all games on same page. Sometimes I have a tab for a particular game when I need to see the alternate lines. Their (not there, Durito) setup requires more vertical space than, say wsex or betjm, which have spread, ml, and total all on one line.

And, Mudcat, wsex allows any amount for win or risk. It takes just a few seconds more to do this by clicking "other amt".

Thanks to you and durito for the info about WSEX.

As for the rest I disagree. I'd rather scroll than have a bunch of tabs open. I'm just glad Matchbook is the only out I use that does that. Well, except for SIA with baseball. Yeah, what's up with that anyway? They break up baseball but not ncaaf?

Whatever - if I started needing a handful of tabs for every out I use it would be pretty messy here. Too bad Matchbook can't offer a choice of formats to accommodate both people who want multiple tabs and people who want a list.

**johnfk** · 10-08-08, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by APK

Sportingbet, uses IEsnare.

Why would this be a problem?

Only if you want to hide something or try to get around their rules (multiple accounts etc)

**Mudcat** · 10-17-08, 12:06 PM

Adding:

As soon as you go to the DSI home page, it starts playing jungle rhythms. It goes along with some flash thing they are plugging.

I don't want any audio component to kick in when I go to a home page.

I could possibly accept the opening guitar riff from Supermassive Black Hole by Muse.

But other than that, no sir, I don't like it.

**Stumpage** · 10-17-08, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Mudcat

Adding:

As soon as you go to the DSI home page, it starts playing jungle rhythms. It goes along with some flash thing they are plugging.

I don't want any audio component to kick in when I go to a home page.

I could possibly accept the opening guitar riff from Supermassive Black Hole by Muse.

But other than that, no sir, I don't like it.

...Plus it seems exceptionally loud...Scared the hell out of me the first time, to be honest....

**I.R.B** · 10-17-08, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by treece

I like Intertops because they let you be logged on for days. BetJam I hate because they give you only a 20 minute cookie or whatever its called and then you have to log on again. Fukin pisses me off signing in over and over again.

I'm glad BetJam does this cause i dont want anyone on my account.

**Bullajami** · 10-17-08, 06:47 PM

When you select a sport at Carib it loads all of the lines and then collapses them down under a category and you have to click on it again to see the lines.

Sports Interaction frequently has the lines posted out of order.

BetAtlas defaults MLB to action, and resets it to action every time you refresh the lines. maddening.

**durito** · 10-18-08, 12:21 AM

betphoenix is driving me insane

it looks like it should be good software but either they are having major technical difficulties or it doesn't work.

**Mudcat** · 10-18-08, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Stumpage

...Plus it seems exceptionally loud...Scared the hell out of me the first time, to be honest....

I know. It's like, wtf, who is in my apartment with me?

**Mudcat** · 10-18-08, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Bullajami

When you select a sport at Carib it loads all of the lines and then collapses them down under a category and you have to click on it again to see the lines.

Sports Interaction frequently has the lines posted out of order.

BetAtlas defaults MLB to action, and resets it to action every time you refresh the lines. maddening.

All good points.

At the risk of hijacking my own thread, how are things going at Atlas besides that? Had any payouts lately?

**fiveteamer** · 11-11-08, 03:22 PM

I'm trying to find a new book to place some wagers.

So irritating.

So hard to simply find what bonuses they offer, and what methods of deposits and payouts they have.

Some books when you click FAQ, the go in to great detail about what a point spread, or money line is.

Are you kidding me?

Just f'king tell me what ways I can send you my money, what ways you can send me my money, and what bonus you offer for my business.

Should not be very hard.

**alta** · 11-11-08, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by fiveteamer

I'm trying to find a new book to place some wagers.

So irritating.

So hard to simply find what bonuses they offer, and what methods of deposits and payouts they have.

Some books when you click FAQ, the go in to great detail about what a point spread, or money line is.

Are you kidding me?

Just f'king tell me what ways I can send you my money, what ways you can send me my money, and what bonus you offer for my business.

Should not be very hard.

Agree 100% with you.

Regarding BetPhoenix:
I have heard that BetPhoenix web site is extremely slow to load and move around. Would like some current USER feedback.

**Doc JS** · 11-11-08, 09:28 PM

Bookmaker time zones...How f'ing hard would it be to make the configurable???

Doc

**Mudcat** · 11-12-08, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by alta

Agree 100% with you.

Regarding BetPhoenix:
I have heard that BetPhoenix web site is extremely slow to load and move around. Would like some current USER feedback.

There was some discussion of this topic in a recent thread.

HERE

**Mudcat** · 11-12-08, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Doc JS

Bookmaker time zones...How f'ing hard would it be to make the configurable???

Doc

Adding:

Pinnacle

**GoodVibrations** · 11-12-08, 11:43 AM

Years ago I bitched to The Greek about the central time zone, it went to deaf ears.....
Hell even Sportsinteraction offers a choice of time zones. If those idiots can figure it out, why can't The Greek?

Here's one that I don't get.....
At WSEX you can make an EIGHT team parly....
But ONLY a SIX team teaser.......??

I didn't notice this until recently but Matchbook is the WORST at grading games.
I've seen the early NFL game end before 4pm and NOT graded until after the late games start........

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 11-12-08, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by alta

I have heard that BetPhoenix web site is extremely slow to load and move around. Would like some current USER feedback.

It's fine if you livechat and get them to add your IP to the whitelist.

**alta** · 11-12-08, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

It's fine if you livechat and get them to add your IP to the whitelist.

What's this whitelist you speak of?
So if you are losing they put you on the white list and if you are winning they keep you off the white list, haha!

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 11-12-08, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by alta

What's this whitelist you speak of?
So if you are losing they put you on the white list and if you are winning they keep you off the white list, haha!

They (and quite a lot of bookies) have ddos protection, that tries to guess which packets are legit and which are hackers trying to knock them offline. Once on the whitelist, your packets always get through because their software knows anything from that IP address is you.

DSI/cris have something similar.

**Mudcat** · 11-12-08, 09:14 PM

I have another bitching point. It's probably very picky but it's my friggin' thread so here it is:

I don't like how some books - like Sportbet and DSI and SBG-Global - have their menus set up so it's hard to find the click-box for college sports. Like if you want regular, full game bets for NBA or NFL, you just go right to basketball or football and it's going to be the first box on the list.

But if you want full games on college sports, the click box is in the middle of a group of boxes whose descriptions all look pretty alike. So you can't just click the top one without thinking. You have to squint and actually think about what they're saying.

No sir, I don't like it.

**alta** · 11-13-08, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

They (and quite a lot of bookies) have ddos protection, that tries to guess which packets are legit and which are hackers trying to knock them offline. Once on the whitelist, your packets always get through because their software knows anything from that IP address is you.

DSI/cris have something similar.

But if I submit online from different coffee shops, my IP address is going to be different from each different location.