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  • marka
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-06-12
    • 8

    #1
    willhill - liars and thieves
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    In the example, it was a basketball 8/16/2011. odds on France - 1.4, GB - near 2.8. It was not live.

    France win: 1.4*100$ = 120$(20$ was stolen).

    In the live chat I was told that there is no error, and recalculations will not. Soon willhill limiting my account to 0.00 $ max stake.
    This is not an isolated case. If you play willhill, then be careful and check your bets.
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  • FourLengthsClear
    SBR MVP
    • 12-29-10
    • 3808

    #2
    Your screenshot is blurred/not readable.
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    • marka
      SBR Rookie
      • 02-06-12
      • 8

      #3
      I have seen well (on PC). I'll try for another.
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      • allin1
        SBR MVP
        • 11-07-11
        • 4555

        #4
        have you filed a complaint with sbr?
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        • marka
          SBR Rookie
          • 02-06-12
          • 8

          #5
          No. I was scared for my money.
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          • pellumb341
            SBR MVP
            • 11-25-11
            • 1183

            #6
            100 * 1.4 = ?

            everyone who can solve this , i will give 100 EUR.
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            • FourLengthsClear
              SBR MVP
              • 12-29-10
              • 3808

              #7
              Send them an email with the Bet ID/reference and your screenshot.

              If your screenshot is genuine it is a very simple case of the wrong amount being paid. If that doesn't work then submit a complaint through SBR.

              You can rest assured that William Hill are not trying to screw you out of $20.
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              • shaunovery
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-15-07
                • 18143

                #8
                1.4 = 2/5 or -250
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                • shaunovery
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-15-07
                  • 18143

                  #9
                  100 to win 40
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                  • marka
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 02-06-12
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                    Send them an email with the Bet ID/reference and your screenshot.

                    If your screenshot is genuine it is a very simple case of the wrong amount being paid. If that doesn't work then submit a complaint through SBR.

                    You can rest assured that William Hill are not trying to screw you out of $20.
                    Can. But they do it.
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                    • marka
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 02-06-12
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                      Send them an email with the Bet ID/reference and your screenshot.

                      If your screenshot is genuine it is a very simple case of the wrong amount being paid. If that doesn't work then submit a complaint through SBR.

                      You can rest assured that William Hill are not trying to screw you out of $20.
                      I spoke with them(willhill) in live chat. They refused to correctly calculate.
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                      • marka
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 02-06-12
                        • 8

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                        Send them an email with the Bet ID/reference and your screenshot.

                        If your screenshot is genuine it is a very simple case of the wrong amount being paid. If that doesn't work then submit a complaint through SBR.

                        You can rest assured that William Hill are not trying to screw you out of $20.
                        I do not care about $ 20. My concern is that willhill began to steal money.
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                        • Winner_13
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-04-10
                          • 1744

                          #13
                          why did they limit your stake to 0?

                          I am also going to check more carefully now.
                          One time I woke up the next day there was extra cash in my account, I checked my statement and it was an adjustment because they didnt add it in properly.
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                          • FourLengthsClear
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-29-10
                            • 3808

                            #14
                            Originally posted by marka
                            I do not care about $ 20. My concern is that willhill began to steal money.
                            So you think that William Hill care about $20 more than you do?
                            Send and email or submit a complaint through SBR.

                            Whining about it on a forum achieves nothing. It is not a complicated case if that screenshot is genuine.
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                            • marka
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 02-06-12
                              • 8

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Winner_13
                              why did they limit your stake to 0?

                              I am also going to check more carefully now.
                              One time I woke up the next day there was extra cash in my account, I checked my statement and it was an adjustment because they didnt add it in properly.
                              I do not know. But until I started to check the calculations it was all good.
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                              • marka
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 02-06-12
                                • 8

                                #16
                                Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                So you think that William Hill care about $20 more than you do?
                                Send and email or submit a complaint through SBR.

                                Whining about it on a forum achieves nothing. It is not a complicated case if that screenshot is genuine.
                                I will not complain. I just want to warn others. If you have any doubts about the screenshot, I can send it to your Email in good quality.
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                                • damnasians
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 11-21-11
                                  • 95

                                  #17
                                  Send them an email. They will sort it. Live chat can be useless. WH are not going to scam you for $20 lol
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                                  • meckis
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 06-08-09
                                    • 438

                                    #18
                                    I always send them email if I need help, livechat is useles in most cases. It is grading error probably.
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                                    • allin1
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-07-11
                                      • 4555

                                      #19
                                      this case is strange imho

                                      you don't want to make a complaint which is strange because if you really want to warn people then letting sbr investigate the case will add credibility to your claims if they are accurate

                                      the fact that they limit you is even stranger because they won't do that unless they have a good reason to want you out
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                                      • LordVodka
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-17-09
                                        • 5206

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                        Your screenshot is blurred/not readable.

                                        That's because any screenshot posted on SBR automatically becomes tiny. Has a mod ever addressed this.
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                                        • Winner_13
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-04-10
                                          • 1744

                                          #21
                                          yea why did they limit you?
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                                          • King_Suckerman
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 04-12-09
                                            • 945

                                            #22
                                            They limit lots of people from what I hear.

                                            The OP should submit a complaint.
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                                            • Justin7
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-31-06
                                              • 8577

                                              #23
                                              You should file a complaint. If that is all there is to this, this is a gross error (and possibly happening to other people).
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                                              • Santo
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-08-05
                                                • 2957

                                                #24


                                                Wonder if they palp'd / changed the odds, sent an email but just didn't update the bet record?
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                                                • LGBoots
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 742

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Santo
                                                  http://www.sportstats.com/basketball...e-858414/#odds

                                                  Wonder if they palp'd / changed the odds, sent an email but just didn't update the bet record?

                                                  That looks like the most probable reason. 1.40 was way out of line.
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                                                  • chachi
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-16-07
                                                    • 4571

                                                    #26
                                                    1.40 at dead heat would be 1.20 payout (?)
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                                                    • FourLengthsClear
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-29-10
                                                      • 3808

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by chachi
                                                      1.40 at dead heat would be 1.20 payout (?)
                                                      It wasn't a dead heat and dead heat rules would anyway be half the stake at 1.40.

                                                      From the odds comparison posted by Santo above it looks like a bad line albeit it has been handled strangely.
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                                                      • SBR Lou
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-02-07
                                                        • 37863

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by LordVodka
                                                        That's because any screenshot posted on SBR automatically becomes tiny. Has a mod ever addressed this.
                                                        Only if it exceeds standard uploading size (its by design so as to not disrupt forum view). When attaching images, you cannot click the image to see the original size, which is why uploading directly via mySBR photos or Photobucket is preferred.

                                                        The OP should file a sportsbook complaint form.
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                                                        • air90
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 02-08-12
                                                          • 6

                                                          #29
                                                          wow, so many people make complaints here, i know where should i go next time when i have problem with my bookie
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                                                          • combobets100
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 10-02-11
                                                            • 31

                                                            #30
                                                            WHILL limits, steals, low odds ... how on Earth can you give A rating to this? If I would rate bookies, A BOOKIE THAT LIMITS YOU AFTER WINNING 13 EUR combo bets is not worth 1/10. And why not 0/10? Because you can earn 100 EUR per month, which is good ... if you live in Uzbekistan.
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