Scott Carter from Justbet keeps calling claiming I owe him money

**MBENZ** · 08-29-11, 03:59 PM

Let's hope SBR has this guy on post delay.If he post the processer,alot of people are fukked.Think about it.

**topgame85** · 08-29-11, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Kerrywoods was the one that came in here crying foul, burden of proof is on him. If he wants sympathy for JustBet calling him to collect he needs to prove that he is innocent and that the calls are not justified.

Bingo, he brought this to the forum he is now responsible for proving his claims not the other way around IMO.

**sharpcat** · 08-29-11, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by bostonboss

bottom line after seeing this i would never put any money into justbet..............innocent or guilty the way they handled this was unprofessional.

the way they handled it based on what they have posted in this thread or the way they handled it according to Kerrywoods???

I would hope that after pushing so hard claiming no evidence on the books part that you would not draw to a conclusion based on what Kerrywoods has claimed without any evidence to prove that what he says is true.

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 04:05 PM

listen sharp cat i dont deal with anyone that calls me or anyone 20 times a day........i dont scam anyone i own a very productive business.....if someone scammed me out of money i would have handled it much differently.....

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 04:07 PM

i assume the next question is how would i have handled it???.....if i was justbet i would have closed his account.....and put him on the blacklist.....no bs calling.....no deals....fact is they didnt pay the guy out anything......so the real loser is kerrywood

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 04:12 PM

scott carter or whatever his name is behind justbet would have been much better off for the business just to keep his cool.....95 percent of the players are not scammers...there will always be a bad apple out there.....but now his name and business are being spoken of negatively....and this will affect profits etc....bottom line you have to do what is best for your business......and from the businessman's point of view he failed......lesson learned for everyone hopefully.

**KEdge2k** · 08-29-11, 04:13 PM

sharpcat -- you gotta be effing kidding me, Kerrywoods started the claim so the burden of proof is on him?

Thank god you aren't a lawyer, you'd be an embarrassment to my profession.

JustBet is apparently claiming that Kerry owes them $$$. The burden of proof is on JustBet, not on Kerry, to establish that this money was charged back and still owed to JustBet.

**KEdge2k** · 08-29-11, 04:23 PM

What sharpcat is requesting is that Kerry prove a negative -- that he doesn't owe JustBet the money. The person asserting that money is owed from another to them is the party that has the burden of proof on such a claim.

**gavin** · 08-29-11, 04:36 PM

boston boss and kerry wood clearly are brothers, friends etc

**topgame85** · 08-29-11, 04:37 PM

Justbet did not bring this to the forum kerry did. So for the purpose of forum transparency Kerry needs to show he did not ********** which he cannot do because clearly that is what happened. Kerry committed fraud and slander justbet MAY have went too far in trying to collect the debt.

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 04:56 PM

hey gavin have another beer.........im not his brother......i am saying from business point of view scott and justbet f'd up i own a million dollar a yr business......what do you do? drink beer in your mother's basement?

**DwightShrute** · 08-29-11, 04:58 PM

its really clear if you refer to page 2 of this thread. You will see in the bold highlighted section of the live chat, he knows what will happen and offered to repay the money that will be charged back. That is all the proof anyone needs. We only checked to see if the charge back was credited to his account yet. And still are willing to add every cent to his bonus account once he pays the money which he promised he would.

No one hounded him or threatened him and no one will. Its only a grand after-all. But there is a principal isn't there? Come on guys, all of us here are gamblers but losing shouldn't be an excuse to cheat someone. Especially if we expect to get paid when we win.

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 04:59 PM

u reference him as michael in that chat and it is a different account number than his.....then u accuse him of having 3 accounts.......thats on justbet not him......

**KEdge2k** · 08-29-11, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by topgame85

Justbet did not bring this to the forum kerry did. So for the purpose of forum transparency Kerry needs to show he did not ********** which he cannot do because clearly that is what happened. Kerry committed fraud and slander justbet MAY have went too far in trying to collect the debt.

True, Kerry originally posted to the forum. Why? Because the book claims it owes him XYZ dollars and is harassing him. He's reporting someone else's claim that he owes them money. There's no legitimate reason that he should have the burden of proof. It should be mighty easy for JustBet or any other book to show that money was deposited with them and was then charged back. Once they show that, the burden should shift to OP at that point.

**spankie** · 08-29-11, 05:00 PM

pretty clear to anyone who read this thread whats going on.

kerry trying to take a shot im sure if he would have won he would have happily cashed out.

**KEdge2k** · 08-29-11, 05:01 PM

Dwight, he's disputed that this was his account -- wrong number and name. How were you able to link this account to the poster?

**BigDaddy** · 08-29-11, 05:03 PM

it might be clear to some but not all of us.

lots of questions are left unanswered and a good one is posted above.

**robmpink** · 08-29-11, 05:05 PM

I wonder why this guy was so concerned about checks he received being cancelled. Think about it for a second.

**BigDaddy** · 08-29-11, 05:05 PM

what is a bonus account is that different from his regular account? if so that might be the reason for more than 1 account but i haven't heard of a book doing that since BP used to do it.

**GoBlue23** · 08-29-11, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

I wonder why this go was so concerned about checks he received being cancelled. Think about it for a second.

**YorkHunt** · 08-29-11, 05:07 PM

**BigDaddy** · 08-29-11, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

I wonder why this go was so concerned about checks he received being cancelled. Think about it for a second.

checks from where?

as i understand it he only had 1 deposit into justbet and that lost so its not like he desposited ran the funds up and cashed out and now going to do a charge back

**sharpcat** · 08-29-11, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by bostonboss

u reference him as michael in that chat and it is a different account number than his.....then u accuse him of having 3 accounts.......thats on justbet not him......

Here we go again

Why is it that everything Kerrywood claims is a proven fact in your eyes but you are quick to point out that it has not been proven that he did a charge back?????

What proof do you have that they called him repeatedly?

What proof do you have that his name is not michael on the account?

What proof do you have that he did not attempt to open 3 accounts?

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 05:10 PM

what proof do you have he did?

**topgame85** · 08-29-11, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by KEdge2k

True, Kerry originally posted to the forum. Why? Because the book claims it owes him XYZ dollars and is harassing him. He's reporting someone else's claim that he owes them money. There's no legitimate reason that he should have the burden of proof. It should be mighty easy for JustBet or any other book to show that money was deposited with them and was then charged back. Once they show that, the burden should shift to OP at that point.

Clearly you are new to this industry.......

Books use secretive back door 3rd person processors that run C C deposits that are very expensive because of the massive risks involved both legally and financially. This is not like a detective going to wal mart or the best buy and asking them to pull al their records Justbet is not going to post records of a criminal act. Nice try though....

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 05:10 PM

just bet posted the chat........and they refer to him as michael..........he posted his account number it did not match......we asked how they link that account to him and no answer.

**BigDaddy** · 08-29-11, 05:11 PM

"What proof do you have that they called him repeatedly?"

they posted that they left him several voicemails

"Left several voice message and no reply"

**robmpink** · 08-29-11, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

checks from where?

as i understand it he only had 1 deposit into justbet and that lost so its not like he desposited ran the funds up and cashed out and now going to do a charge back

what I was thinking was why would he be worried about that? Possibly winning then charging back, playing at a sister book where he did a charge back and won, etc.

**GoBlue23** · 08-29-11, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by robmpink

I wonder why this guy was so concerned about checks he received being cancelled. Think about it for a second.

SBR Forum - Sports Betting Talk - Sportsbook Review Forum

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/1224118-true-about-being-able-canceled.html

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**gavin** · 08-29-11, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by bostonboss

hey gavin have another beer.........im not his brother......i am saying from business point of view scott and justbet f'd up i own a million dollar a yr business......what do you do? drink beer in your mother's basement?

which business? I live in Brighton

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by gavin

which business? I live in Brighton

i have a business on the north shore....not going in detail........

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 05:15 PM

cape ann region

**DwightShrute** · 08-29-11, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by KEdge2k

Dwight, he's disputed that this was his account -- wrong number and name. How were you able to link this account to the poster?

just bet posted the chat........and they refer to him as michael..........he posted his account number it did not match......we asked how they link that account to him and no answer.

same IP address
When he was called he told us he would change his phone number and not pay it back
Nearly every chat he enters a new account ID but the ip is the same
Several emails were sent to his private email. Same email he entered and responded him and he replied.

13:47:13 08/29/2011
[13:48:10]

scott: mike

[13:48:15]

scott: were arent doing this on chat

[13:48:18]

JB55071: Hey man, posting a nice little article about you on sbrforum.

[13:48:20]

scott: you have my number

[13:48:21]

JB55071: check it out.

[13:48:24]

scott: good

[13:48:27]

scott: post away

I am not here to do anything but give the other side of the story. As I would expect anyone to do if they are being slandered.

**gavin** · 08-29-11, 05:17 PM

cape ann brewing co is a fine brewery up there in gloucester

**bostonboss** · 08-29-11, 05:18 PM

well maybe you guys should monitor ip addresses better