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  • sharpcat
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    • 12-19-09
    • 4516

    #1
    Effects of Chargebacks/Lawsuits in the industry
    As many know Cory1111 is planning on filing suit against M$G because he feels that Easystreet stiffed him.

    IMO this is a selfish move on his part as chargebacks and lawsuits against the few depositing options we have makes it increasingly more difficult for the millions of players in the states to deposit funds.

    How much does Cory1111 expect to steal from M$G in this lawsuit?

    Did M$G do anything at all to deserve this?

    What does Easystreet refusing to pay $46k to Cory1111 have to do with M$G?

    Is Cory1111 being a scumbag by involving M$G in this issue?

    Does this further suggest that Cory1111 does indeed have a lengthy history with chargebacks?

    What types of effects will players filing suit against these institutions have on the future banking options for US players?
  • jgilmartin
    SBR MVP
    • 03-31-09
    • 1119

    #2
    Originally posted by sharpcat
    Did M$G do anything at all to deserve this?
    No
    Originally posted by sharpcat
    What does Easystreet refusing to pay $46k to Cory1111 have to do with M$G?
    Nothing
    Originally posted by sharpcat
    Is Cory1111 being a scumbag by involving M$G in this issue?
    Yes
    Originally posted by sharpcat
    Does this further suggest that Cory1111 does indeed have a lengthy history with chargebacks?
    Perhaps, but irrelevant to this particular case as chargebacks were impossible due to his use of M$G. EZ should pay him his $46K, but he is going about trying to get it in a terrible way.
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    • sharpcat
      Restricted User
      • 12-19-09
      • 4516

      #3
      I recall many years ago when depositing with a CC was no big deal until many degenerates and scam artists started filing lawsuits against the banks when they lost all of their money. This ultimately ended in many banks taking action to prevent losses in lawsuits and it started to become increasingly difficult to get a CC accepted. This was several years before the UIGEA was passed and banks had no legal obligation to do this, they did it because of guys like Cory1111.
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      • sharpcat
        Restricted User
        • 12-19-09
        • 4516

        #4
        Would SBR continue to be so supportive of Cory1111 if he turned his back on them despite all they have done for him and filed suit against them?
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        • thegreen
          SBR High Roller
          • 02-15-09
          • 199

          #5
          GO Cory...Many Props to you SIR for having guts to fight those Crooks!!!! Teach these unregulated SCAMMERS a lesson and get paid the MONEY YOU ARE OWED!!!!!
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          • sharpcat
            Restricted User
            • 12-19-09
            • 4516

            #6
            Originally posted by thegreen
            GO Cory...Many Props to you SIR for having guts to fight those Crooks!!!! Teach these unregulated SCAMMERS a lesson and get paid the MONEY YOU ARE OWED!!!!!
            What does M$G owe Cory1111?
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            • thegreen
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-15-09
              • 199

              #7
              Originally posted by sharpcat
              What does M$G owe Cory1111?


              If he used the service and it was for illegal services or products not rendered they are responsible. They should not be accepting funds for fraudulent activity. Hope you get punitive damages to Cory!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!
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              • sharpcat
                Restricted User
                • 12-19-09
                • 4516

                #8
                Originally posted by thegreen
                If he used the service and it was for illegal services or products not rendered they are responsible. They should not be accepting funds for fraudulent activity. Hope you get punitive damages to Cory!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!
                They did not know he was sending funds for illegal purposes all they knew was that he was sending money to someone in Costa Rica.

                M$G did nothing wrong but provide him with a service it is not in any way their fault that he deceived them into sending money to a gambling institute.
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                • thegreen
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 02-15-09
                  • 199

                  #9
                  I'm sure it won't be to hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the M$G AGENT in Costa Rica new that illegal activity was taken place....-345 this gets settled out of court and he gets 80% of what he is suing for! Go Cory!!!!!!! Cory is the Rosa Parks of the offshore gambling community!!!! GO GO!!!
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                  • sharpcat
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                    • 12-19-09
                    • 4516

                    #10
                    Originally posted by thegreen
                    I'm sure it won't be to hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the M$G AGENT in Costa Rica new that illegal activity was taken place....-345 this gets settled out of court and he gets 80% of what he is suing for! Go Cory!!!!!!! Cory is the Rosa Parks of the offshore gambling community!!!! GO GO!!!
                    Online gambling is not illegal in Costa Rica therefore it is not the job of any agent to report such activity.

                    Try again
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                    • thegreen
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-15-09
                      • 199

                      #11
                      might end up like any other suit when Cory wins a judgement will filled against M$G EZstreet and account levied!!! If you have money at EZSTREET you want to take it out before there accounts are frozen!!! WOW!!!! These Offshore SCAM books are going down!!!
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                      • sharpcat
                        Restricted User
                        • 12-19-09
                        • 4516

                        #12
                        Originally posted by thegreen
                        might end up like any other suit when Cory wins a judgement will filled against M$G EZstreet and account levied!!! If you have money at EZSTREET you want to take it out before there accounts are frozen!!! WOW!!!! These Offshore SCAM books are going down!!!
                        Again what did M$G do to Cory1111?
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                        • thegreen
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-15-09
                          • 199

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sharpcat
                          Online gambling is not illegal in Costa Rica therefore it is not the job of any agent to report such activity.

                          Try again

                          But it is if you are calling from US to make that bet....Wire Fraud....To bad if they just paid Cory what he won they would still be around in a year now they are just about done and all those folks who have funds there are just like BET ED
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                          • Milk Money
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 01-12-11
                            • 121

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thegreen
                            might end up like any other suit when Cory wins a judgement will filled against M$G EZstreet and account levied!!! If you have money at EZSTREET you want to take it out before there accounts are frozen!!! WOW!!!! These Offshore SCAM books are going down!!!
                            Please go away.
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                            • sharpcat
                              Restricted User
                              • 12-19-09
                              • 4516

                              #15
                              Originally posted by thegreen
                              But it is if you are calling from US to make that bet....Wire Fraud....To bad if they just paid Cory what he won they would still be around in a year now they are just about done and all those folks who have funds there are just like BET ED
                              1) very hard for the agents working at the 7-11 to identify who is picking up $$$ for gambling deposits.
                              2) it is not the job of an agent to do s.
                              3) Books have lists of 10-20 people who receive funds for them and as M$G bans these people they recruit new ones.

                              Only thing M$G can do is to hassle users every time they send funds from the US to Costa Rica which is not very practical for business.

                              Your arguments are childish and you are obviously just trolling.
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                              • John Dough
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-21-05
                                • 1785

                                #16
                                thegreen might be the most useless poster on this entire forum... and that's really saying something.

                                I've asked him numerous times why he even still posts here since he's posted about a hundred times that no one's money is safe and every book will soon be shut down, so I have to believe he no longer bets offshore, but he never answers.
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                                • sharpcat
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-19-09
                                  • 4516

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by John Dough
                                  thegreen might be the most useless poster on this entire forum... and that's really saying something.

                                  I've asked him numerous times why he even still posts here since he's posted about a hundred times that no one's money is safe and every book will soon be shut down, so I have to believe he no longer bets offshore, but he never answers.
                                  His constant "the sky is falling" posts and now his support of Cory1111 filing suit against M$G, although they have done nothing to harm Cory, makes me wonder if the govt. would be pathetic enough to send a shill to the forums to attempt to encourage players to bail on the industry.

                                  He has some strange agenda probably just one of those guys who lost everything gambling and now has a grudge against the industry due to his own stupidity.
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                                  • yokspot
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 11-16-05
                                    • 287

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sharpcat
                                    Would SBR continue to be so supportive of Cory1111 if he turned his back on them despite all they have done for him and filed suit against them?
                                    I know it's not central to the general issue, but I'm still trying to work out why he would turn on SBR?

                                    1) SBR's consistently supported him.

                                    2) SBR's does nothing wrong. Advertising Costa Rican books in Costa Rica is not a crime.
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                                    • sharpcat
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 12-19-09
                                      • 4516

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by yokspot
                                      I know it's not central to the general issue, but I'm still trying to work out why he would turn on SBR?

                                      1) SBR's consistently supported him.

                                      2) SBR's does nothing wrong. Advertising Costa Rican books in Costa Rica is not a crime.
                                      I am still trying to figure out why he would turn on M$G?

                                      M$G did nothing wrong to Cory1111.

                                      Only thing I can think of is it is like a ********** scam. A chance to steal a couple thousand for himself ultimately screwing over hundreds of thousands of people.
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                                      • thegreen
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 02-15-09
                                        • 199

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sharpcat
                                        I am still trying to figure out why he would turn on M$G?

                                        M$G did nothing wrong to Cory1111.

                                        Only thing I can think of is it is like a ********** scam. A chance to steal a couple thousand for himself ultimately screwing over hundreds of thousands of people.

                                        Such backwards thought process...If the Blacklisted Book EZSTREET paid him what he won this would be a non issue. EZSTREET is the offshore book who will be responsible for costing 100's of folks there funds not CORY....Pay him and this goes away..SBR did rule in his favor....Go Cory
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                                        • HedgeHog
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-11-07
                                          • 10128

                                          #21
                                          Cory knows he has zero recourse with M.G. His sole intent by naming them is to alienate them from EZ, thereby eliminating EZ's major source of income. If this were to happen, and a huge If at that, EZ would likely close and reopen under a new name--and begin taking M.G. deposits again. Maybe this is the "win", Cory is going for, but it's basically throwing good money (lawyer fees) after bad (confiscated funds). JMO.
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                                          • sharpcat
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 12-19-09
                                            • 4516

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                            Cory knows he has zero recourse with M.G. His sole intent by naming them is to alienate them from EZ, thereby eliminating EZ's major source of income. If this were to happen, and a huge If at that, EZ would likely close and reopen under a new name--and begin taking M.G. deposits again. Maybe this is the "win", Cory is going for, but it's basically throwing good money (lawyer fees) after bad (confiscated funds). JMO.
                                            M$G could never choose to not allow funds to go to EZ as EZ is never the one picking up the funds, Juan Pablo Montoya is picking up the funds and when M$G catches on to him they ban him and than Julio Ceasar Chavez steps in. Rinse and repeat.
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                                            • xstud
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-12-08
                                              • 1643

                                              #23
                                              I find it extremely funny how many people take Cory seriously. He is trying to stay relevant. Think about it... all the other 5dimes threads that appeared, BetEd failing, bookmaker domain seizure. He had the attention off his thread therefore he is trying his hardest to bring attention back to his issue. At the same time he is trying his hardest to scare a bookmaker into paying. I would bet the farm that Cory has not retained a lawyer and no lawyer in their right mind would even consider taking on this "case" for any other reason than milking Cory for money.

                                              Think about it people. What lawyer in the world would say "Hey continue posting on the forum and showing an extreme lack of intelligence". People also need to realize that obviously when you send a transaction for gambling purposes you are violating the terms and conditions of any money transfer service. Also, he had issues admitted by Lou regarding northbet and M$G so I think the last hornets nest he wants to rile up is M$G.

                                              Cory has a lawyer and filed suit +1000000
                                              Cory is trying to stay relevant -100000000000000000
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                                              • sharpcat
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 12-19-09
                                                • 4516

                                                #24
                                                It amazes me how this entire board goes insane if a new poster comes in here and asks if it is ok to ********** a deposit at a book because he lost his money and than Cory wants to sue M$G (even though they have absolutely nothing to do with EZ) and not only does nobody care many are supporting it.

                                                Wake up people just because you are angry at EZ and side with Cory on that matter you do not have to stick up for every action he takes.

                                                This is 10x worse than a ********** because M$G has done absolutely nothing to Cory this is just him and his scumbag lawyer taking shots at who ever they can. Watch out SBR Cory has no loyalty and if his lawyer tells him he can get something from you too do not think he won't take a shot at you also.
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                                                • cory1111
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-19-10
                                                  • 1921

                                                  #25
                                                  xstud , by me posting and telling the truth about easystreet is irrelevant to my case. An attorney has been hired, and could care less about staying relevant. I post because I want easystreet to lose business. No secret about it. But you keep up with your theories. Like I said go ask easystreet and rx? And sharpcat I did nothing to easystreet. they stole my money. Go complain to them. its not working here.
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                                                  • HedgeHog
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                    • 10128

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                    M$G could never choose to not allow funds to go to EZ as EZ is never the one picking up the funds, Juan Pablo Montoya is picking up the funds and when M$G catches on to him they ban him and than Julio Ceasar Chavez steps in. Rinse and repeat.
                                                    You're right. My point is that if the negative publicity continues to escalate, EZ may decide to fold and re-open under a new name. This would be a hollow win for Cory, IMO as nothing essentially changes.

                                                    PS Montoya's racing career is so poor he has to pick up M.G. deposits as a side job?
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                                                    • sharpcat
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 12-19-09
                                                      • 4516

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by xstud
                                                      I find it extremely funny how many people take Cory seriously. He is trying to stay relevant. Think about it... all the other 5dimes threads that appeared, beted failing, bookmaker domain seizure. He had the attention off his thread therefore he is trying his hardest to bring attention back to his issue. At the same time he is trying his hardest to scare a bookmaker into paying. I would bet the farm that Cory has not retained a lawyer and no lawyer in their right mind would even consider taking on this "case" for any other reason than milking Cory for money.

                                                      Think about it people. What lawyer in the world would say "Hey continue posting on the forum and showing an extreme lack of intelligence". People also need to realize that obviously when you send a transaction for gambling purposes you are violating the terms and conditions of any money transfer service. Also, he had issues admitted by Lou regarding northbet and M$G so I think the last hornets nest he wants to rile up is M$G.

                                                      Cory has a lawyer and filed suit +1000000
                                                      Cory is trying to stay relevant -100000000000000000
                                                      I agree it is likely B.S. but just the suggestion alone of going after M$G should be enough for anyone in support of Cory to leave him on his own from here on. Like a parent of a drug addict child, I don't hate you because you are a drug addict but I can no longer support you on the road you are headed down because it is eventually going to effect my way of life.
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                                                      • sharpcat
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 12-19-09
                                                        • 4516

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by cory1111
                                                        xstud , by me posting and telling the truth about easystreet is irrelevant to my case. An attorney has been hired, and could less about staying relevant. I post because I want easystreet to lose business. No secret about it. But you keep up with your theories. Like I said go ask easystreet and rx? And sharpcat I did nothing to easystreet. they stole my money. Go complain to them. its not working here.
                                                        Ok I get it EZ stole your money.

                                                        What did M$G do to you?

                                                        So because EZ stole from you it now justifies you to steal from M$G? You are truly a self centered scumbag if you believe so.
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                                                        • barcelonafc
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 02-16-11
                                                          • 428

                                                          #29
                                                          good luck cory, and if any other sbr poster files a lawsuit, good luck to them too.
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                                                          • pokerplayer22
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-09-09
                                                            • 1207

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by xstud
                                                            I find it extremely funny how many people take Cory seriously. He is trying to stay relevant. Think about it... all the other 5dimes threads that appeared, BetEd failing, bookmaker domain seizure. He had the attention off his thread therefore he is trying his hardest to bring attention back to his issue. At the same time he is trying his hardest to scare a bookmaker into paying. I would bet the farm that Cory has not retained a lawyer and no lawyer in their right mind would even consider taking on this "case" for any other reason than milking Cory for money.

                                                            Think about it people. What lawyer in the world would say "Hey continue posting on the forum and showing an extreme lack of intelligence". People also need to realize that obviously when you send a transaction for gambling purposes you are violating the terms and conditions of any money transfer service. Also, he had issues admitted by Lou regarding northbet and M$G so I think the last hornets nest he wants to rile up is M$G.

                                                            Cory has a lawyer and filed suit +1000000
                                                            Cory is trying to stay relevant -100000000000000000
                                                            I'll take cory has hired a lawyer and filed suit for $1
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #31
                                                              What are the odds that he recovers anything? And can I make this bet via my CC?
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                                                              • xstud
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-12-08
                                                                • 1643

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                                                I'll take cory has hired a lawyer and filed suit for $1
                                                                Hey pp how are you? I retract my previous comment, you are right. I wish you the best. Have a great day and good luck on any of your plays!

                                                                Sorry about the BetEd money I really hope you get something at an A+ book if the customer base is bailed out.
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                                                                • pokerplayer22
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-09-09
                                                                  • 1207

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by xstud
                                                                  Hey pp how are you? I retract my previous comment, you are right. I wish you the best. Have a great day and good luck on any of your plays!

                                                                  Sorry about the BetEd money I really hope you get something at an A+ book if the customer base is bailed out.
                                                                  Thanks for the well wishes xstud...Same to you
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                                                                  • yokspot
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 11-16-05
                                                                    • 287

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                    I am still trying to figure out why he would turn on M$G?

                                                                    M$G did nothing wrong to Cory1111.

                                                                    Only thing I can think of is it is like a ********** scam. A chance to steal a couple thousand for himself ultimately screwing over hundreds of thousands of people.
                                                                    I'm assuming that the action against SBR comment was hyperbole.

                                                                    Yes, I suppose a **********, though the transaction may have been technically illegal anyway. But it'd be an obvious ruse to recover some money. M$G are still putting themselves in the firing line if they're processing "illegal" transactions, much as it helps US sportsbettors.

                                                                    I assume the feds already know about the CR sportsbetting industry, so I'm not sure that bringing EZ to their attention would mean an end to civilisation as we know it. And they are a scam book, that's proven. Many unknown variables, of course. But in the OP's position I'd be tempted as hell to stick it to them, including trying to get their .com domain confiscated.
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                                                                    • relaaxx
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-15-06
                                                                      • 3281

                                                                      #35
                                                                      1 person or the small percentage of chargebacks or lawsuits by gamblers is not going to affect gambling. the only thing that will and has affected all of here in the US, is our own government. let's blame the land of the free for no freedom. not cory. or someone else.
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