betonline- CHARGING $100 MINIMUM TO TRASNFER TO 5DIMES/THEGREEK

[WileOut]

Not that big a deal if you ask me. I didn't know BetOnline offered btb, it's nice to know that they do.

[sharpcat]

They are trying to discourage bonus whoring arbers

b2b transfers don't qualify for bonuses.

[JoeVig]

bonus whoring arbers

These are two distinct groups. You can be one and not the other.

[redapple]

It would be great if betonline can work on adding more payout options, bringing back wire, or getting a processor that can send check with higher max. That will be a big step toward A or even A+ rating. Bookmaker charges b2b transfer fee as well, but they have wire payout option with 50k max and very reasonable fee.

[LLXC]

I think bookmaker charges $300.

Yea, ridiculous. I try to keep all my money within the circle of books that perform FREE B2B transfers with each other.

[LLXC]

They are trying to discourage bonus whoring arbers

No, they are simply trying to discourage you from moving your $ to other books.

[bubba]

They are trying to discourage bonus whoring arbers

i believe they are trying to discourage people to withdraw funds from there website. period, end of story.

if they wanted to discourage bonus whores they should not give out massive bonuses. having awful withdrawal options just limits severely the upside of this book.

[durito]

BOL wouldn´t let me transfer more than 1k today.

[slash]

What's their nete11er and moneyb00kers limits??

[bubba]

BOL wouldn´t let me transfer more than 1k today.

to what book? they said not more then 1k to 5dimes. and i could not bring myself to pay 100 to transfer 1000.



i know im venting here but the biggest problem facing these books for payouts/deposits is the processors/gov't restrictions. book to book transfers avoid these issues and should be embraced.

betonline cannot blame there lack of withdrawl options on processor issues and then turn around and charge 100+ dollars to transfer money to other books when all the top tier books do this for free (bookmaker excluded)!

it seems like they are more in the business of holding onto my funds as long as possible and less in the business of booking bets.

[Thremp]

I wouldn't have reupped knowing this. Now I have like 10% of my BR there. Oops.

[Jerm3462]

I was about to sign up for this book tuesday night, then I read the payouts page.

I've never seen anything like that.$1000 min for a check?

Huge rollovers. High fees.

I'm sure your money is safe there and all, but they're not getting my business.

$1000 min for a check?
A rec book? Wtf?

[mighty maron]

1000 min for a check and still being a rec book...poster above has a good point

[lumpy19]

Books offer transfers as a courtesy for players. Most won't appreciate only being used when a player can't get down at another sportsbook with their processing methods. That's why you see higher fees and rollovers by shop.

You're completely right. The problem is betonline has terrible payout options. They NEED a wire option, it's not ridiculous to charge fees on book to book transfers. It IS ridiculous when you charge those fees and the largest payout option is a $2500 check. If they want to hang with the big boys they need to figure out how to process wire withdrawals.

bookmaker charges on book to book withdrawals but guess what, you can withdraw large sums with a wire AND/or you can do weekly 3k withdrawals for FREE.

[BetOnline]

Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.. and Bubba.

Remember when DEPOSIT options were a huge issue at BetOnline? It took awhile, but we've turned that around. Improving ALL payout processes: check minimums and times, bankwires for larger amounts, are all now getting the attention once reserved for deposit options.

One thing I can tell you: moving ANY money is now more costly than it has EVER been in this industry. And that's a reality that all B or better books have to deal with (we don't charge you for deposits like some "A" books do). And processing post Apr-15 is more of a challenge than ever, as you can imagine, but it becomes a simple risk-reward calculation for processors, so I DO expect it to become more expensive... but we can and will "process the eCom."

But your issue with us is mis-directed.

Yes, EXACTLY like A+ and in many ways role-model Bookmaker, we now charge for B2b transfers out of the book. But like ANY and EVERY other A+ book should do, we'll gladly REFUND any transfer fees to your account when you're charged by other books for transferring to US. Tell them you want to bring $Xk over from BOL but it'll cost $Y, will they cover that? You know WE will--why don't they? Let's raise the bar here!

It does cost money to move money--and the larger amount, the more it costs.

As USUAL, if you NEED a wire option, ping me here and I'll see what we can do. We will have a more reliable option up for this service in the coming weeks.

Cheers,
Alex

[bubba]

Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.. and Bubba.

Remember when DEPOSIT options were a huge issue at BetOnline? It took awhile, but we've turned that around. Improving ALL payout processes: check minimums and times, bankwires for larger amounts, are all now getting the attention once reserved for deposit options.

One thing I can tell you: moving ANY money is now more costly than it has EVER been in this industry. And that's a reality that all B or better books have to deal with (we don't charge you for deposits like some "A" books do). And processing post Apr-15 is more of a challenge than ever, as you can imagine, but it becomes a simple risk-reward calculation for processors, so I DO expect it to become more expensive... but we can and will "process the eCom."

But your issue with us is mis-directed.

Yes, EXACTLY like A+ and in many ways role-model Bookmaker, we now charge for B2b transfers out of the book. But like ANY and EVERY other A+ book should do, we'll gladly REFUND any transfer fees to your account when you're charged by other books for transferring to US. Tell them you want to bring $Xk over from BOL but it'll cost $Y, will they cover that? You know WE will--why don't they? Let's raise the bar here!

It does cost money to move money--and the larger amount, the more it costs.

As USUAL, if you NEED a wire option, ping me here and I'll see what we can do. We will have a more reliable option up for this service in the coming weeks.

Cheers,
Alex

are you honestly saying that it costs 100 dollars (or more) for you to transfer money to the other top books? really?

i know bookmaker does this, do 2 wrongs make a right? i dont play at bookmaker because of that! no other site does anything close to it.

if it costs you 100+ dollars to do a book to book transfer to another book for me then i have 0 problem with you charging me that (although now im even more impressed with those books that do this free of charge!!). is that really the case?

please dont talk about raising the bar. you fleece us on all transfers going out and cover the fees on the one book that charges for transfers coming in and somehow you are RAISING THE BAR? i must be missing something here.

[sharpcat]

Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.. and Bubba.

Remember when DEPOSIT options were a huge issue at BetOnline? It took awhile, but we've turned that around. Improving ALL payout processes: check minimums and times, bankwires for larger amounts, are all now getting the attention once reserved for deposit options.

One thing I can tell you: moving ANY money is now more costly than it has EVER been in this industry. And that's a reality that all B or better books have to deal with (we don't charge you for deposits like some "A" books do). And processing post Apr-15 is more of a challenge than ever, as you can imagine, but it becomes a simple risk-reward calculation for processors, so I DO expect it to become more expensive... but we can and will "process the eCom."

But your issue with us is mis-directed.

Yes, EXACTLY like A+ and in many ways role-model Bookmaker, we now charge for B2b transfers out of the book. But like ANY and EVERY other A+ book should do, we'll gladly REFUND any transfer fees to your account when you're charged by other books for transferring to US. Tell them you want to bring $Xk over from BOL but it'll cost $Y, will they cover that? You know WE will--why don't they? Let's raise the bar here!

It does cost money to move money--and the larger amount, the more it costs.

As USUAL, if you NEED a wire option, ping me here and I'll see what we can do. We will have a more reliable option up for this service in the coming weeks.

Cheers,
Alex

Absolute nonsense!!!!

Betonline is not anywhere near Bookmakers leaugue

[FreeFall]

to what book? they said not more then 1k to 5dimes. and i could not bring myself to pay 100 to transfer 1000.



i know im venting here but the biggest problem facing these books for payouts/deposits is the processors/gov't restrictions. book to book transfers avoid these issues and should be embraced.

betonline cannot blame there lack of withdrawl options on processor issues and then turn around and charge 100+ dollars to transfer money to other books when all the top tier books do this for free (bookmaker excluded)!

it seems like they are more in the business of holding onto my funds as long as possible and less in the business of booking bets.

I don't get why you are comparing BOL to BM. They aren't in the same park and I don't give a **** about SBR ratings so don't bring those up.

Also as a tip it sounds like you're over exposed at BOL if you are worried about your money. In the future try not to let this happen and you will sleep easier at night knowing if your balance dies you wont.

[bubba]

I don't get why you are comparing BOL to BM. They aren't in the same park and I don't give a **** about SBR ratings so don't bring those up.

Also as a tip it sounds like you're over exposed at BOL if you are worried about your money. In the future try not to let this happen and you will sleep easier at night knowing if your balance dies you wont.

the reason for the comparison of betonline to bookmaker is because betonline used bookmakers outrageous fees as an excuse for their own.

while i have somewhat of a balance at betonline (not super large) it was in the threshold that it could be transferred to a top book free of charge in one quick, free transfer. now betonline, ever so quietly, changed the playing field on me.

how about putting on the homepage the new transfer policy for all to see? it seems like they are trying to hide it. i cannot blame them for this, i wouldnt want people knowing this either.

on another note, i did deal with 2 true top books today. i sent a transfer from thegreek to 5dimes for an amount betonline was unable to do for me. and the cost, free!

[Thremp]

Alex,

Allowing large/low cost wires would alleviate much of the worry that people have with doing large xfers. Atleast, if I knew I could reliably get a mid five figure wire, I wouldn't have the queasiness I currently have with the limits on b2b xfers that didn't exist in the past. (One of the main reasons I have deposited repeatedly.)

[BetOnline]

Allowing large/low cost wires would alleviate much of the worry that people have with doing large xfers. Atleast, if I knew I could reliably get a mid five figure wire, I wouldn't have the queasiness I currently have with the limits on b2b xfers that didn't exist in the past. (One of the main reasons I have deposited repeatedly.)

We're working on bankwires for larger amounts. Depending where you live (or bank), it can be problematic but do have some solutions in the pipeline.

We've also tweaked a few other payment options as per this thread; dropping the payout check limit to $500, raising the ewallet payout maximums. Thanks as usual for the input--it's a process... glad it's only a tiny minority of our players who bump into these limits. We WILL get this area of the biz sorted as we have the rest of the biz.

Cheers,

Alex

[durito]

So it´s $100 to transfer $1,000 (max) to 5dimes? Was I charged this yesterday, they didn´t mention it in live chat.

[bubba]

So it´s $100 to transfer $1,000 (max) to 5dimes? Was I charged this yesterday, they didn´t mention it in live chat.

thats exactly what i was told yesterday.

[mighty maron]

Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.. and Bubba.

Remember when DEPOSIT options were a huge issue at BetOnline? It took awhile, but we've turned that around. Improving ALL payout processes: check minimums and times, bankwires for larger amounts, are all now getting the attention once reserved for deposit options.

One thing I can tell you: moving ANY money is now more costly than it has EVER been in this industry. And that's a reality that all B or better books have to deal with (we don't charge you for deposits like some "A" books do). And processing post Apr-15 is more of a challenge than ever, as you can imagine, but it becomes a simple risk-reward calculation for processors, so I DO expect it to become more expensive... but we can and will "process the eCom."

But your issue with us is mis-directed.

Yes, EXACTLY like A+ and in many ways role-model Bookmaker, we now charge for B2b transfers out of the book. But like ANY and EVERY other A+ book should do, we'll gladly REFUND any transfer fees to your account when you're charged by other books for transferring to US. Tell them you want to bring $Xk over from BOL but it'll cost $Y, will they cover that? You know WE will--why don't they? Let's raise the bar here!

It does cost money to move money--and the larger amount, the more it costs.

As USUAL, if you NEED a wire option, ping me here and I'll see what we can do. We will have a more reliable option up for this service in the coming weeks.

Cheers,
Alex

Last three times I have tried to deposit thru e-wallet I had problems. Other than that BOL has treated me well. After I get my pokerstars check, I will deposit some to BOL if their e-wallet that I like is working. I have learned from the past...if the interface does not work on the first try... I move on. Tried the waiting several days thing with nothing to show...

B2B transfer fee...its in line with others so no real problem.

[Jerm3462]

We're working on bankwires for larger amounts. Depending where you live (or bank), it can be problematic but do have some solutions in the pipeline.

We've also tweaked a few other payment options as per this thread; dropping the payout check limit to $500, raising the ewallet payout maximums. Thanks as usual for the input--it's a process... glad it's only a tiny minority of our players who bump into these limits. We WILL get this area of the biz sorted as we have the rest of the biz.

Cheers,

Alex

Do you mean lowering the minimum check withdraw from $1000 to $500?

If so, well thats a step in the right direction. Mad props to you for acting so quickly

[bubba]

B2B transfer fee...its in line with others so no real problem.

other then bookmaker, who is it in line with?

[apalm8]

What a joke...why even offer interbook transfers lol

[Duff85]

They are trying to discourage bonus whoring arbers

lol well this wouldn't do the trick.

Bonus whoring arbers are the most experienced money movers there are. They aren't going to use B2B where they get slugged in fees, they will use any of the number of free withdrawal methods available on most sites to move their cash reasonably efficient between books.

[Fishhead]

I've done well over 100 book transfers(not Betonline) with various books and never paid a penny.

[thegreen]

They are def not an A book I'd say B at best. Software stinks, Payouts by check are sent through USPS standard mail and take 2 weeks + to get and have to be 1K and Fees are outrageous on most withdrawal options. They are on book to watch list as rumors have them going down and soon.

[mighty maron]

I would say bump them up to A-...even with the glitches in deposit software and no perk or added bonus for my 7 hours of wasted time they are a quality outfit. They are getting more and more different types of wagers. I dont have to worry about my money there when I choose to have money there. Alex answers fast and most of their reps understand English well.

A- would be correct thing to do...bump them up

[packman]

Alex,

I signed up at BOL when you started doing book to book transfers with the big boys. I have transferred in and out with the Greek 2 or 3 times over the past 6-8 months without any problems.

This week I tried to transfer to the Greek and was told I can not do a book to book transfer until I use two other withdraw methods first. This must be a new rule, a rule to which I did not sign up for. BOL customer service wants me to do a ** and a ** withdraw for $800 each with a fee of $80 each. Then they say I can do a book to book transfer to the Greek for up to $8000 with a $250 fee. These fees are awfully expensive.

Anyway, I not interested in arguing over the amount of the fees, I just want to get my money via book to book transfer without the hassle of using ** or ** to get an $800 peanut. Please consider allowing me to withdraw back to the Greek via the same method I deposited. Thanks!

[John Dough]

Alex,

I signed up at BOL when you started doing book to book transfers with the big boys. I have transferred in and out with the Greek 2 or 3 times over the past 6-8 months without any problems.

This week I tried to transfer to the Greek and was told I can not do a book to book transfer until I use two other withdraw methods first. This must be a new rule, a rule to which I did not sign up for. BOL customer service wants me to do a ** and a ** withdraw for $800 each with a fee of $80 each. Then they say I can do a book to book transfer to the Greek for up to $8000 with a $250 fee. These fees are awfully expensive.

Anyway, I not interested in arguing over the amount of the fees, I just want to get my money via book to book transfer without the hassle of using ** or ** to get an $800 peanut. Please consider allowing me to withdraw back to the Greek via the same method I deposited. Thanks!

This is perhaps even more disturbing than the fees themselves. Alex, please address this.

[bubba]

This is perhaps even more disturbing than the fees themselves. Alex, please address this.

agreed, wtf is going on!

[Foosball Champ]

Is there a cost to the book to do a B2B ?