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  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #1
    Linesmaker steals $15,990 from winning player
    Linesmaker steals $15,990 from winning player

    Linesmaker player history
    On September 21st, 2010, a player signed up with Linesmaker. He deposited $10,600 in three transactions ($5000, $5000, $600) by ***. The player received a $750 cash bonus.

    He then bet his entire account balance on 23 wagers. After the settlement of all wagers, his account balance increased to $27,340.


    Linesmaker accuses player of being in a syndicate, and violating its multiple account policy
    On September 22nd, 2010, Linesmaker closed the player's account, and refunded his $10,600 in deposits. Linesmaker accused the player of acting in concert with players who have had their wagers limited in the past.

    When SBR asked Linesmaker to share their evidence, Linesmaker refused.

    Linesmaker Sportsbook: There were multiple related accounts limited and warned in the past. Creating a new account to slip under the radar quick enough to place wagers at the last minute does not make us money. A few accounts that were overlooked for a longer period were paid. If they try their luck again they are doing just that as we made it very clear this time that their action was not welcome.

    Do you feel it's fair to tarnish a reputable book for a professional player who sneaks in on a new account at the last minute in an attempt to get some wagers down unnoticed?

    We can appreciate your concerns with the limited information you have but we will not share any more specific details related to this account, any related or the players.
    Linesmaker will not offer evidence to show wrongdoing
    When a sportsbook decides to confiscate a player's funds, they assume the burden of proof to show that their confiscation was warranted. Unless a sportsbook is legally bound by a non-disclosure agreement as a result of being licensed by a gaming commission, SBR expects sportsbooks to prove the confiscation is justified with actual evidence.

    In this complaint, the Linesmaker player accused of foul play authorized SBR to hear his private account details. The fact that Linesmaker is unwilling to get into specifics demonstrates a lack of hard evidence. Linesmaker has cited its rule on multiple accounts to justify voiding the winning wagers.

    Linesmaker T&C: Members are not permitted to open multiple accounts (either within LinesMaker.com itself or affiliated websites on the same platform) in order to circumvent the limits imposed by our wagering system. If multiple accounts are used then all bets will be void.
    The Linesmaker player tells SBR that he has utilized SBR Odds and other line-watching services to monitor market prices. When he finds a sportsbook late to a key move, he places a wager. This is commonly referred to as "steam play". This betting style is often not appreciated by sportsbooks and will typically lead to warnings or account closure. The industry standard never allows for players winnings to be stolen.
    Linesmaker player: I don't use Donbest, I just watch pinnacle, greek, and free services like sbrlines to track line moves. I like to bet on all sports leagues, including baseball, basketball, football, tennis, and soccer.
    Linesmaker added to SBR Sportsbook Blacklist
    Linesmaker is part of the Sportsbook.com Group, which is owned and operated by Domain Holdings Limited. The Sportsbook.com Group confiscated over $200,000 from players in 2007. Sportsbook.com stated the players placed illegal correlated parlays that the software allowed. Due to Sportsbook.com's theft, the entire family with the exception of Linesmaker.com (who previously maintained a C- rating due to having an independent CS and management department), are rated D- and on the SBR Sportsbook Blacklist.
  • cant call it
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-29-10
    • 8817

    #2
    Fk linesmaker
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    • pickemtowinem
      Restricted User
      • 03-03-11
      • 1446

      #3
      wow. you guys are awesome for calling these guys out. great info to have.

      THANK YOU!
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      • CarpeDime
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-01-09
        • 7873

        #4
        unreal

        fuk these guys

        i'd lose my mind if a book free rolled me like that
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        • THEGREAT30
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-04-08
          • 8970

          #5
          What a industry jump ship, the ship is sailing.
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          • Dank_Fire
            SBR MVP
            • 05-13-09
            • 2269

            #6
            downgrade them to an F.
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            • relaaxx
              SBR MVP
              • 06-15-06
              • 3281

              #7
              let's all take our money out of every jazz book. i always get paid. been hearing these horror stories for years. just figured it wouldn't happen to me. but thiis is the last straw for me. i have a few thousand left to roll. will have a zero balance 1 way or the other by the end of the week.
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              • MartinBlank
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-20-08
                • 8382

                #8
                Nice job SBR.

                Keep calling these guys out.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82838

                  #9
                  Can you do anything with the legal system of the country the book is based when they steal from you? Can a player sue them in court?
                  Comment
                  • durito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-03-06
                    • 13173

                    #10
                    Was the player limited at other sb skins? Was he warned not to circumvent those limits at other skins?
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                    • bruceBRUCEbruce
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-20-09
                      • 2560

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      Can you do anything with the legal system of the country the book is based when they steal from you? Can a player sue them in court?
                      it all depends on the laws of that specific country, and the terms of the agreement (fine print) between the book and the gambler.
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                      • cankid
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-22-08
                        • 7221

                        #12
                        I hate stiffers
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                        • gavin
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-26-09
                          • 1373

                          #13
                          Adios Linesmaker
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                          • jackkkk2009
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-13-09
                            • 1183

                            #14
                            should be downgraded to F since they stole winning from players.
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                            • frostno98
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-11-07
                              • 9769

                              #15
                              That's why you jerkoffs shouldn't be playing a shitty @ss books. Shouldn't you do a thorough research before dropping 10k into an offshore account.
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                              • Going4Broke
                                Restricted User
                                • 09-30-10
                                • 294

                                #16
                                sounds like a pretty shitty situation. at least he got his initial deposit back i guess, but damn that book sucks.
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                                • AzNDooM
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-29-08
                                  • 1611

                                  #17
                                  Yeah they should definiltey be downgraded to an F after hearing this story. Great job on the reporting Lou.
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                                  • Crush_your_book
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 08-20-09
                                    • 219

                                    #18
                                    Great job sbr.
                                    Comment
                                    • AimingHigh
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 06-12-09
                                      • 670

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by durito
                                      Was the player limited at other sb skins? Was he warned not to circumvent those limits at other skins?
                                      IMO, Durito's questions are the only really important ones here, though I suspect the player probably wouldn't tell the truth anyway. It's too easy to just say 'f$ck LM' without caring about the player's role.
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                                      • vividjohn45
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-21-10
                                        • 6331

                                        #20
                                        screw off. trashcanlinermaker.com. and f ur family of trashcan liner makers
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                                        • SportsMozart
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 01-18-11
                                          • 377

                                          #21
                                          Linesmaker closed my account at the same day I sent them my first deposit. I actually did not place any bets. I did not even talk to them.
                                          I asked my casino module to be blocked in BetUSA , their sister book. That was sufficient to close my account in Linesmaker. How independent that CS can be? Where is my deposit? Floating around somewhere in universe.... 3 weeks has passed by. They promised to return money to me. Will they do that? Maybe yes, maybe no, maybe tomorrow! Stay far away from this scam factory!
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                                          • SBRMAN23
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-07-11
                                            • 6905

                                            #22
                                            Wow ******* scam artist
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                                            • Bulldog-53
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 09-08-10
                                              • 235

                                              #23
                                              That's a lot of coin to be losing.
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                                              • MWade
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 03-28-11
                                                • 98

                                                #24
                                                awesome job SBR
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                                                • AribaAriba
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-03-09
                                                  • 2922

                                                  #25
                                                  who in their right mind would deposit 10k on a very well known book? Add to that, we're all pretty helpless as they can take our winnings as long as they want since its not legally regulated. They can just file bankruptcy and you can kiss your winnings goodbye.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by frostno98
                                                    That's why you jerkoffs shouldn't be playing a shitty @ss books. Shouldn't you do a thorough research before dropping 10k into an offshore account.
                                                    Bingo

                                                    Players fault

                                                    Linesmaker did not even care when I called them
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                                                    • vitalyo
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-05-07
                                                      • 1615

                                                      #27
                                                      F@ck this shit books !
                                                      Everyone should stay with A and B rated books.


                                                      GL.
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                                                      • alka07
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-04-09
                                                        • 441

                                                        #28
                                                        never heard of them good that come out like this
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                                                        • fury
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 02-20-10
                                                          • 1651

                                                          #29
                                                          Not that it should even matter, but how the hell can a book say if we use SBR odds or not? Putting large money in a rinkydink book is just asking for trouble.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            everyone call this book today and call the clerks every name in the fukkin book

                                                            DO IT

                                                            TAPE IT
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                                                            • durito
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-03-06
                                                              • 13173

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Bingo

                                                              Players fault

                                                              Linesmaker did not even care when I called them
                                                              Get a clue. The player knew exactly what he was doing.
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                                                              • BrianLaverty
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-02-07
                                                                • 2183

                                                                #32
                                                                Really not surprising consider who they are affiliated with... damn shame though.

                                                                Guy deposited 10k at a book and only got $760 cash bonus? He could have probably got a few g's bonus from a couple different books if they knew he was gonna deposit 10k.
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                                                                • ipirate007
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 12-21-10
                                                                  • 38

                                                                  #33
                                                                  sucks, they are quick to take our money but when it comes to pay out they do all the dirty groundwork, if he had lost all that money betting, they wouldn't even care or bother to check those limits and all
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    called and hammered to clerks
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                                                                    • fury
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 02-20-10
                                                                      • 1651

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Did you record it jj?
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