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  • pokerplayer22
    SBR MVP
    • 05-09-09
    • 1207

    #701
    Originally posted by BuckeyeT
    Well these dikkheads must be getting desperate for customers.

    I have no idea how these a$$holes got my email addy but just got an email from tonyg at EZ and this is what it says.

    Congratulations Tony!

    $100 FREE Cash in your account just for joining our Sportsbook, Racebook & Casino
    We invite you to test drive our service, using FREE money...
    to get your $100 go to:
    http://ezfree100.com/ code ezfa100

    Now that's EZ!
    Tony G
    http://www.easystreetsports.com
    866-238-8365

    Anything EZ wants you to "test drive" needs to be crashed into the nearest brick wall.
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    • BuckeyeT
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-14-11
      • 591

      #702
      After i got that spam mail i replied and told them what to do with there free $100 and why i wont be playing there this Tony green guy responds with this...........


      Since we couldn’t get the player to come show us he could duplicate his play, we are having a contest, and paying for forum chosen professionals, come try to duplicate his play…

      The winner gets 10k, and the contestants all get paid to come try…

      SBR won’t participate, but the other forums seem to be choosing…

      That play will either show that the play can’t be done, or can be done…

      Like I’m saying just stay tuned, because the forums are not innocents in all this…

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      • HedgeHog
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-11-07
        • 10128

        #703
        Originally posted by pokerplayer22
        Anything EZ wants you to "test drive" needs to be crashed into the nearest brick wall.
        This promo requires a mandatory deposit too. I know it may be difficult for some to understand that you need to deposit in order to collect.
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        • pokerplayer22
          SBR MVP
          • 05-09-09
          • 1207

          #704
          Originally posted by HedgeHog
          This promo requires a mandatory deposit too. I know it may be difficult for some to understand that you need to deposit in order to collect.
          And yet they claim its "free money"
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          • pokerplayer22
            SBR MVP
            • 05-09-09
            • 1207

            #705
            Oh and I guess they announced the 46k video poker contest and the prize money totals 15k. So i guess it WAS about the money after all or else they would have made the prizes total 46k or more. The guy who finishes 4th-6th place receives a whopping $500 for traveling halfway around the world. Thumbs up EZ

            I guess it was about the money after all!!!
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            • HedgeHog
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-11-07
              • 10128

              #706
              Originally posted by pokerplayer22
              And yet they claim its "free money"
              Guess you need to read the T &C's. It's actually a good deal--100% bonus with 12x roll. But yes you have to actually deposit money--isn't this where you ran into trouble with Powers originally?
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              • pokerplayer22
                SBR MVP
                • 05-09-09
                • 1207

                #707
                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                Guess you need to read the T &C's. It's actually a good deal--100% bonus with 12x roll. But yes you have to actually deposit money--isn't this where you ran into trouble with Powers originally?
                Absolutely not...long story short...i opened an acct with Jazz when Powers there because they used to offer a free blackjack tourny on monday nights that not too many people played in. but i never made a deposit there because at the time I actually had a decent balance at 5dimes and heritage. Well, a few weeks went by and a friend of mine (who doesnt know alot about offshore books wanted to know where he could play and get a decent bonus. Since Heritage is out of the question and 5dimes isnt great for bonuses, I told him to call Jazz. About a week later, a guy named Big Jim Rivers EMAILED ME and told me that he put $50 in my acct because my referral had deposited $500 and lost it. I never initiated that conversation and to this day I have every email saved. Well, i logged in and made a 3 team parlay and hit it. I managed to turn the 50 into $1100....and wagered over $1600 while doing it (32x rollover on the 50). Well, when i tried to cash out, Powers gets on the phone and starts yelling that because i never made a deposit, that i took a free shot at him. It was Big Jim who gave me the referral bonus as a thank you. Powers then told me i needed to deposit an additional 1100 and roll the entire 2200 over 15x (33,000) and then i can cash out. I still have emails from Big Jim appologizing for his mistake and telling me that a 15x roll really isnt that much...lol. Well this is before i knew of sbr so io couldnt get the help i needed.

                Since then, I have asked a few GM's at a few other books I play at and EVERY SINGLE response has been the same....that Powers is known as being an industry scumbag. Therefore this whole Cory dispute, with the way they just fabricated lies and untruths doesnt surprise me at all.
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                • pokerplayer22
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-09-09
                  • 1207

                  #708
                  I'll never claim that Powers' run books sitff everyone. Even sportsbook.com pays prob 97% of their players. But if you find ways to steal from the other 2 or 3%, that should put you at the D- or F category which is right where EZ is and should be. And lets not forget, Powers did send Jazz right down the toilet. Now that he's gone, they are trying to get back to where they once where.
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                  • vitalyo
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-05-07
                    • 1615

                    #709
                    About a month ago easystreet said it's gonna be 46K contest case they wanna prove/show they have the money 46K
                    LOL So what happen ???
                    RX had the trend contest 46K then about 2-3 week ago they took it out
                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.



                    F@ck these guys are total clowns . I am just shaking my head .

                    Originally posted by BuckeyeT
                    After i got that spam mail i replied and told them what to do with there free $100 and why i wont be playing there this Tony green guy responds with this...........


                    Since we couldn’t get the player to come show us he could duplicate his play, we are having a contest, and paying for forum chosen professionals, come try to duplicate his play…

                    The winner gets 10k, and the contestants all get paid to come try…

                    SBR won’t participate, but the other forums seem to be choosing…

                    That play will either show that the play can’t be done, or can be done…

                    Like I’m saying just stay tuned, because the forums are not innocents in all this…
                    What a losers !
                    That play will either show that the play can’t be done, or can be done
                    Since they never released/refused to provide full play log .
                    My guess it will be RX Shilhelm and their famous expert who will have final say .


                    WizardOfOdds comment on RX most famous expert
                    1. The expert says it is "statistically impossible" to get three royal flushes in 8,762 hands. Let's assume the same 1 in 40,000 chance he assumes, which is a good approximation. The expected number of royals in 8,762 hands is 0.2191. Using the Poisson distribution, the probability of exactly three royals in 8,762 hands is e-.2191 × 0.21913 / 3! = 0.001407, or 1 in 710.
                      In my opinion, all credibility of this witness is lost on this point. A 1 in 710 chance is not "statistically impossible." To at least partially hinge their case on this reason brings shame to ESS, in my opinion.
                      Furthermore, it is my understanding that the player actually played 22,000 hands at ESS. The probability of 3 royals in 22,000 hands is 1 in 64, definitely not "statistically impossible." It seems that ESS cherry picked only the 8,862 hands in the sessions where Cory hit a royal.
                    2. Here the expert is saying that 1.3 seconds of each average 3.4 seconds per hand was spent drawing the hand. I'd prefer to actually play the game myself or see a video before commenting on this.
                    3. So now the expert alleges that the player played to "overwhelm the RNG and provide favorable odds to the 'player.'" Come again? I didn't know that random number generators would get tired at a rate of play of one hand every 3.4 seconds and start passing out royals in frustration. Sorry, I have been programming computers for 30 years and have never heard of such RNG fatigue.

                    Finally, I've never heard of an expert testimony where the so-called expert's name was not disclosed.
                    PS . from WizardOfOdds
                    Blacklisting

                    I posted a warning 18 days before blacklisting EasyStreet, offering them a chance to address my concerns and to mediate in a solution. After never hearing from them, they were added to the blacklist on April 25, 2011.
                    What a book .


                    esystreet is run by thugs and lairs.
                    GL.
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                    • cory1111
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-19-10
                      • 1921

                      #710
                      easystreetsports.com doesnt pay and is blacklisted.
                      WIZARD OF ODDS:
                      The Blacklist

                      Here is the Blacklist, starting with the most recently added.

                      EasyStreetSports.com — Added Apr. 25, 2011

                      Added for failure to pay a winning video poker player and the feeble excuses not to. For the whole story, please see my page on the Easy Street Sports vs. Cory1111 dispute.
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                      • midnight777
                        Restricted User
                        • 09-10-09
                        • 504

                        #711
                        wow... dude.. let it go you everybody knows you are a scammer to other books... ha ha ha ha ha...
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                        • cory1111
                          Restricted User
                          • 11-19-10
                          • 1921

                          #712
                          whos everyone easy and rx? of course they would come up with that excuse when dont have 46k to pay.
                          oh i forgot.



                          easystreetsports.com doesnt pay and is blacklisted.
                          WIZARD OF ODDS:
                          The Blacklist

                          Here is the Blacklist, starting with the most recently added.

                          EasyStreetSports.com — Added Apr. 25, 2011

                          Added for failure to pay a winning video poker player and the feeble excuses not to. For the whole story, please see my page on the Easy Street Sports vs. Cory1111 dispute.
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                          • pokerplayer22
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-09-09
                            • 1207

                            #713
                            Originally posted by vitalyo
                            About a month ago easystreet said it's gonna be 46K contest case they wanna prove/show they have the money 46K
                            LOL So what happen ???
                            RX had the trend contest 46K then about 2-3 week ago they took it out
                            Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.



                            F@ck these guys are total clowns . I am just shaking my head .



                            What a losers !
                            Since they never released/refused to provide full play log .
                            My guess it will be RX Shilhelm and their famous expert who will have final say .


                            WizardOfOdds comment on RX most famous expert
                            PS . from WizardOfOdds What a book .


                            esystreet is run by thugs and lairs.
                            GL.
                            Haha...So EZ wants to run a vp contest to show they have the 46k, but then when contest details come out, prize money totals 15k. HAHA. Funniest shit Ive ever read.
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                            • sharpcat
                              Restricted User
                              • 12-19-09
                              • 4516

                              #714
                              Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                              Absolutely not...long story short...i opened an acct with Jazz when Powers there because they used to offer a free blackjack tourny on monday nights that not too many people played in. but i never made a deposit there because at the time I actually had a decent balance at 5dimes and heritage. Well, a few weeks went by and a friend of mine (who doesnt know alot about offshore books wanted to know where he could play and get a decent bonus. Since Heritage is out of the question and 5dimes isnt great for bonuses, I told him to call Jazz. About a week later, a guy named Big Jim Rivers EMAILED ME and told me that he put $50 in my acct because my referral had deposited $500 and lost it. I never initiated that conversation and to this day I have every email saved. Well, i logged in and made a 3 team parlay and hit it. I managed to turn the 50 into $1100....and wagered over $1600 while doing it (32x rollover on the 50). Well, when i tried to cash out, Powers gets on the phone and starts yelling that because i never made a deposit, that i took a free shot at him. It was Big Jim who gave me the referral bonus as a thank you. Powers then told me i needed to deposit an additional 1100 and roll the entire 2200 over 15x (33,000) and then i can cash out. I still have emails from Big Jim appologizing for his mistake and telling me that a 15x roll really isnt that much...lol. Well this is before i knew of sbr so io couldnt get the help i needed.

                              Since then, I have asked a few GM's at a few other books I play at and EVERY SINGLE response has been the same....that Powers is known as being an industry scumbag. Therefore this whole Cory dispute, with the way they just fabricated lies and untruths doesnt surprise me at all.
                              Most sites do not allows players to collect a referral bonus when they have never deposited into the book before or do not have an active account.

                              Have you really been obsessively cyberstalking Alex Powers for a year because the CS rep made an error and did not realize that you had never funded your account?


                              Your story does not match up when compared to your past documented multi account bonus whoring scam, except for the part of accumulating sign up bonuses with a $0 account balance.
                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              To be fair to Sportbet, they had a reasonable argument. I handled this dispute, and it appeared that the player opened and controlled 3 accounts, collecting signup bonuses and 2 referral bonuses. The player's balance was $0 before receiving a referral bonus from a third account. Without the referral bonus (which we concluded he was not entitled to), he could not have won the $1200.
                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              Nearly all the best made from the 3 accounts were made 1. from pokerplayer22's IP address, or 2. from pokerplayer22 calling into the sportsbook.

                              While it's certainly not a 100% thing, I thought the sportsbook was reasonable in concluding that Pokerplayer22 was controlling the 3 accounts to "bonus hustle" - each account received a sign-up bonus, plus a referral bonus to the main account (which turned $40 into $1200). If you accept that premise, Sportbet handled this dispute fairly.
                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              You attempted to defraud Sportsbet. You closed out your account except for the referral bonus, and attempted to open your fourth account. At that point, a clerk identified you.

                              Sportbet is not crooked. Sportbet has no outstanding no-pay complaints. I wasted hours of my life investigating your dispute. You contradicted yourself during the investigation (did they play from work? Or during your poker parties 3 times a week at your house, where they placed all their internet bets). You lied to OSGA, making up things that SBR never said. You lied to me when I asked you about it. You lied to Sportbet when you identified yourself on telephone as various different people. You continuously misrepresent the facts of this dispute.

                              You're obviously free to post what you wish, but as I warned you privately, I'll continue correcting your factual misstatements.
                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              My guess: When you called in to open your fourth account, they decided to review your other accounts. All your other accounts were zeroed out at that point, except for the bonus issue we looked at.
                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              The fourth account was not successfully opened - he was attempting to do it by telephone when the clerk recognized his voice from an earlier call withdrawing all non-bonus money.
                              Ironic how Cory1111's biggest supporter here is a known scam artist himself.
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                              • cory1111
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-19-10
                                • 1921

                                #715
                                Ironic how anybody who sticks up for ezstreet either works for them(shill) or the Rx.
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                                • pokerplayer22
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-09-09
                                  • 1207

                                  #716
                                  Unlike your high and noble self Sharpy, I never claimed to be perfect. However, I'd never stick up for a book who steals from its players who happen to get a decent score like you are doing. Would you feel differently if it was Fishhead or someone else that won 46k in vp and got stiffed?? Because truth be told, it doesnt matter who it was that won the 46k. They dont have the money to pay and therefore they are not paying.
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                                  • stevex
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-02-10
                                    • 5122

                                    #717
                                    Easystreet pays EVERYONE but scammers like Cory and Pokerplayer.
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                                    • cory1111
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 11-19-10
                                      • 1921

                                      #718
                                      No stevex,easy pays no one. They are blacklisted too.
                                      Thats why you have all this time posting on the forum because no customers.
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                                      • sharpcat
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 12-19-09
                                        • 4516

                                        #719
                                        Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                        Unlike your high and noble self Sharpy, I never claimed to be perfect. However, I'd never stick up for a book who steals from its players who happen to get a decent score like you are doing. Would you feel differently if it was Fishhead or someone else that won 46k in vp and got stiffed?? Because truth be told, it doesnt matter who it was that won the 46k. They dont have the money to pay and therefore they are not paying.
                                        But you will stick up for a player who steals from sportsbooks like yourself

                                        I would feel completely different if they stole money from fishead as he is a well known and respected member of this and many other forums who most likely does not have a history of scamming books. Cory is the polar opposite of fishead he not only steals from books but he also was never a contributing member of this forum or any others until he needed to be and he continues to be a non contributing member of the forums one who is here only for his own personal gains.

                                        Fishead has been very helpful over the years to many amateur players trying to learn the ropes and up until this issue fishead had Easystreet ranked in his top 10 bookmakers list. He also helps maintain web traffic at this forum and many others.

                                        Cory1111 has done nothing but whine and complain about how a book stiffed him even though he himself has stiffed many books and you do not hear him complaining about that. Cory1111 also has never contributed to any threads at any forum that did not involve Easystreet and his attempt to tarnish their reputation. These forums are only being USED by Cory1111 and if he were to get paid we would not hear from him for another 6 months when his next sportsbook complaint arises.
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                                        • cory1111
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-19-10
                                          • 1921

                                          #720
                                          again no proof. but nice try. Even fishead wont play at that garbage sportsbook anymore.

                                          Re: STAY AWAY FROM EASYSTREETSPORTS.COM
                                          easystreetsports.com doesnt pay and is blacklisted.
                                          WIZARD OF ODDS:
                                          The Blacklist

                                          Here is the Blacklist, starting with the most recently added.

                                          EasyStreetSports.com — Added Apr. 25, 2011

                                          Added for failure to pay a winning video poker player and the feeble excuses not to. For the whole story, please see my page on the Easy Street Sports vs. Cory1111 dispute.
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                                          • pokerplayer22
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-09-09
                                            • 1207

                                            #721
                                            Originally posted by sharpcat
                                            But you will stick up for a player who steals from sportsbooks like yourself

                                            I would feel completely different if they stole money from fishead as he is a well known and respected member of this and many other forums who most likely does not have a history of scamming books. Cory is the polar opposite of fishead he not only steals from books but he also was never a contributing member of this forum or any others until he needed to be and he continues to be a non contributing member of the forums one who is here only for his own personal gains.

                                            Fishead has been very helpful over the years to many amateur players trying to learn the ropes and up until this issue fishead had Easystreet ranked in his top 10 bookmakers list. He also helps maintain web traffic at this forum and many others.

                                            Cory1111 has done nothing but whine and complain about how a book stiffed him even though he himself has stiffed many books and you do not hear him complaining about that. Cory1111 also has never contributed to any threads at any forum that did not involve Easystreet and his attempt to tarnish their reputation. These forums are only being USED by Cory1111 and if he were to get paid we would not hear from him for another 6 months when his next sportsbook complaint arises.
                                            But dont you understand that both EZ and therx themselves claimed that Cory's history has NOTHING to do with their decision. They claimed they are stiffing him because they THINK he used a bot and they THINK he played too fast. His history is irrelivent in this case.
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                                            • sharpcat
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-19-09
                                              • 4516

                                              #722
                                              Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                              But dont you understand that both EZ and therx themselves claimed that Cory's history has NOTHING to do with their decision. They claimed they are stiffing him because they THINK he used a bot and they THINK he played too fast. His history is irrelivent in this case.
                                              Don't you understand I don't care about what reason easystreet had for not paying Cory1111 all I care about is that he got what he had coming to him and hopefully you, him, and all of the other scam artists in this industry are now aware that SBR and other popular forums are not guaranteed to get you paid (no matter how many people you get on your side or how much you piss and moan about it).
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                                              • cory1111
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-19-10
                                                • 1921

                                                #723
                                                your right , not when you people are paid off and claiming they are unbiased mediators.(Rx)
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                                                • pokerplayer22
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-09-09
                                                  • 1207

                                                  #724
                                                  Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                  Don't you understand I don't care about what reason easystreet had for not paying Cory1111 all I care about is that he got what he had coming to him and hopefully you, him, and all of the other scam artists in this industry are now aware that SBR and other popular forums are not guaranteed to get you paid (no matter how many people you get on your side or how much you piss and moan about it).
                                                  So what you are saying then is that you are ok with books picking and choosing who they want to pay and who they want to stiff. You would have a different attitude towards this if the book you play at decided to keep your money because you got a speeding ticket in 1998 or got busted for drug usage in 2000. I got news for you sharpcat...Other than yourself, NOBODY in this world is perfect.

                                                  I agree...Cory is not a saint (nor am i). I also wish Cory would have agreed that if he got paid by EZ, that he would have paid any books he stiffed (if in fact he did stiff them, no proof of that). It doesnt change the facts....EZ stole his money because they are unable to pay 46k and you are ok with that. That shows your character is far below even Cory's
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                                                  • sharpcat
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 12-19-09
                                                    • 4516

                                                    #725
                                                    Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                                    So what you are saying then is that you are ok with books picking and choosing who they want to pay and who they want to stiff. You would have a different attitude towards this if the book you play at decided to keep your money because you got a speeding ticket in 1998 or got busted for drug usage in 2000. I got news for you sharpcat...Other than yourself, NOBODY in this world is perfect.

                                                    I agree...Cory is not a saint (nor am i). I also wish Cory would have agreed that if he got paid by EZ, that he would have paid any books he stiffed (if in fact he did stiff them, no proof of that). It doesnt change the facts....EZ stole his money because they are unable to pay 46k and you are ok with that. That shows your character is far below even Cory's
                                                    Let me know when Easystreet steals from a player who has not stolen from books in the past and I will side with the player without a doubt. I am not Justin7, I am not an attorney, I am from the school of hard knocks where if you do dirt you get dirt and Cory1111 got what he had coming to him.


                                                    Your comparison involving a speeding ticket in 1998 is ridiculous and in no way relates to this issue. A book stiffing a player with an extensive history of stiffing books is very highly correlated whereas sports betting and driving have absolutely no relation at all.
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                                                    • pokerplayer22
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-09-09
                                                      • 1207

                                                      #726
                                                      Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                      Let me know when Easystreet steals from a player who has not stolen from books in the past and I will side with the player without a doubt. I am not Justin7, I am not an attorney, I am from the school of hard knocks where if you do dirt you get dirt and Cory1111 got what he had coming to him.


                                                      Your comparison involving a speeding ticket in 1998 is ridiculous and in no way relates to this issue. A book stiffing a player with an extensive history of stiffing books is very highly correlated whereas sports betting and driving have absolutely no relation at all.
                                                      So what if Cory stiffed 20 books (which nothing has been proven)...and what if he decided to change his ways and start making cash deposits...which he did with EZstreet. Does that give EZ the right to steal his winnings??

                                                      The other part that I dont think you understand is that this outcome would have been the exact same if Fishhead or some other well respected poster had got lucky and won 46k at EZ. Its just convenient for them that it was someone with a bad reputation. They simply dont have 46k.
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                                                      • sharpcat
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 12-19-09
                                                        • 4516

                                                        #727
                                                        Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                                        So what if Cory stiffed 20 books (which nothing has been proven)...and what if he decided to change his ways and start making cash deposits...which he did with EZstreet. Does that give EZ the right to steal his winnings??

                                                        The other part that I dont think you understand is that this outcome would have been the exact same if Fishhead or some other well respected poster had got lucky and won 46k at EZ. Its just convenient for them that it was someone with a bad reputation. They simply dont have 46k.
                                                        1) Cory1111 stiffing book has pretty much been confirmed by SBR/RX/EZ along with others inside of the business including several posters who claim to work for books in Costa Rica and Cory1111's refusal to not only not comment on the issue but to not even deny the claims.

                                                        Are you implying that one could not send funds via money transfer using a DC and still do a **********? this type of purchase would appear as a cash transaction and could definately be charged back just like any item purchased with a card.

                                                        2)you have absolutely no way of proving that the same thing would happen to someone else so that is just plain nonsense to even suggest as being a fact.
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                                                        • pokerplayer22
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-09-09
                                                          • 1207

                                                          #728
                                                          Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                          1) Cory1111 stiffing book has pretty much been confirmed by SBR/RX/EZ along with others inside of the business including several posters who claim to work for books in Costa Rica and Cory1111's refusal to not only not comment on the issue but to not even deny the claims.

                                                          Are you implying that one could not send funds via money transfer using a DC and still do a **********? this type of purchase would appear as a cash transaction and could definately be charged back just like any item purchased with a card.

                                                          2)you have absolutely no way of proving that the same thing would happen to someone else so that is just plain nonsense to even suggest as being a fact.
                                                          I think in this case he sent all cash transfers which im sure can be confirmed by w-u or m-g. I guess my point is, where do you draw the line. What if a player wins 40k at a book and the book decides to stiff because the player did 1 ********** in his life and it was with sportsbook.com when they refused to pay. What if players currently getting stiffed at wsex decide to ********** their deposits to at least get some money back..does this mean that when they play at a different book that the new book has the right to stiff the player. Where is the line drawn?? Since you are saying that EZ can pick and choose who they want to pay and who they want to stiff, these are very dangerous waters you are swimming in.

                                                          Im not saying that i feel bad for Cory for getting stiffed, but in this particular case, EZ needs to pay the 46k. Its pretty clear.
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                                                          • stevex
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 05-02-10
                                                            • 5122

                                                            #729
                                                            Well pokerplayer there not going to pay it....

                                                            So isn't it time to move on?
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                                                            • cory1111
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-19-10
                                                              • 1921

                                                              #730
                                                              no stevex its not. isnt it time easystreet closes down?
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                                                              • sharpcat
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 12-19-09
                                                                • 4516

                                                                #731
                                                                Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                                                I think in this case he sent all cash transfers which im sure can be confirmed by w-u or m-g. I guess my point is, where do you draw the line. What if a player wins 40k at a book and the book decides to stiff because the player did 1 ********** in his life and it was with sportsbook.com when they refused to pay. What if players currently getting stiffed at wsex decide to ********** their deposits to at least get some money back..does this mean that when they play at a different book that the new book has the right to stiff the player. Where is the line drawn?? Since you are saying that EZ can pick and choose who they want to pay and who they want to stiff, these are very dangerous waters you are swimming in.

                                                                Im not saying that i feel bad for Cory for getting stiffed, but in this particular case, EZ needs to pay the 46k. Its pretty clear.
                                                                Down play it all you like PP22 but you know as well as I do that there is a big difference between a violent serial rapist and an employer who groped his secretary at the company christmas party even though both have committed sex crimes.

                                                                Some buy into the judicial system being the only right way to rule on a case, I am one of the ones who felt that O.J. Simpson was guilty as sin and find it deeply disturbing that dipshit attorneys go to great lengths everyday to find technicalities in the law in order to release known rapist back onto our street to assault our women and children.

                                                                Is it unfair to judge people for their past? Yes, but only to some extent a repeat offender should not be treated the same as a first time offender.
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                                                                • pokerplayer22
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-09-09
                                                                  • 1207

                                                                  #732
                                                                  Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                  Down play it all you like PP22 but you know as well as I do that there is a big difference between a violent serial rapist and an employer who groped his secretary at the company christmas party even though both have committed sex crimes.

                                                                  Some buy into the judicial system being the only right way to rule on a case, I am one of the ones who felt that O.J. Simpson was guilty as sin and find it deeply disturbing that dipshit attorneys go to great lengths everyday to find technicalities in the law in order to release known rapist back onto our street to assault our women and children.

                                                                  Is it unfair to judge people for their past? Yes, but only to some extent a repeat offender should not be treated the same as a first time offender.
                                                                  Understood...but where is the line drawn?? Book shouldnt be allowed to pay and stiff who they want
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                                                                  • sharpcat
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 12-19-09
                                                                    • 4516

                                                                    #733
                                                                    Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                                                    I think in this case he sent all cash transfers which im sure can be confirmed by w-u or m-g. I guess my point is, where do you draw the line. What if a player wins 40k at a book and the book decides to stiff because the player did 1 ********** in his life and it was with sportsbook.com when they refused to pay. What if players currently getting stiffed at wsex decide to ********** their deposits to at least get some money back..does this mean that when they play at a different book that the new book has the right to stiff the player. Where is the line drawn?? Since you are saying that EZ can pick and choose who they want to pay and who they want to stiff, these are very dangerous waters you are swimming in.

                                                                    Im not saying that i feel bad for Cory for getting stiffed, but in this particular case, EZ needs to pay the 46k. Its pretty clear.
                                                                    You think????

                                                                    Do you know if he sent funds with cash? or did he send funds on a bank issued DC? Because both of these transactions will appear as a cash transaction and one of them can be charged back. If nobody knows 100% beyond a doubt than this excuse needs to stop being tossed around forumville.
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                                                                    • pokerplayer22
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-09-09
                                                                      • 1207

                                                                      #734
                                                                      Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                      You think????

                                                                      Do you know if he sent funds with cash? or did he send funds on a bank issued DC? Because both of these transactions will appear as a cash transaction and one of them can be charged back. If nobody knows 100% beyond a doubt than this excuse needs to stop being tossed around forumville.
                                                                      Im sure finding out whether he sent cash or used a cc is easily verifiable.
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                                                                      • sharpcat
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 12-19-09
                                                                        • 4516

                                                                        #735
                                                                        Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                                                        Im sure finding out whether he sent cash or used a cc is easily verifiable.
                                                                        Only by the company that did the transfer western or mgram. And I can guarantee you that these 2 companies would not disclose this information to Justin7 or anybody else besides Cory1111 who could verify this.

                                                                        Maybe you are not well informed on the banking system I will clarify for you.
                                                                        -DC/Check/Cash=money that belongs to you and all are considered the same thing (CASH TRANSACTIONS) as they are both drawn from your personal bank account.

                                                                        -CC= money that is loaned to you via a third party who usually charge you a financing fee.

                                                                        -DC and CC are both cards that are assigned to one through VSA/**/AEXPRSS/DSCVER but are 2 completely different types of cards.

                                                                        -You can ********** unauthorized charges on a DC just like you can on a CC.
                                                                        Last edited by sharpcat; 04-30-11, 02:46 PM.
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