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  • evo34
    SBR MVP
    • 11-09-08
    • 1032

    #246
    So what kind of sizeola are you swinging, durito? You've been around for awhile; you've made 12 THOUSAND posts in 5 years. Not exactly the way most multi-millionaires spend their time. If Matchbook is truly superfluous to you, you are prob. betting 50k a pop....every time. If you're anywhere near as sharp as you are cocky, you're raking at least 3% net of vig. Let's assume you're choosy, and you only bet 2,000 games a year (~6 bets per day). So you're up $3 million a year for the past x years, and yet are still poking around SBR six times a day? Something not quite adding up...



    Originally posted by durito
    Posters in this thread making 250k a year or more gambling? I see 4. All posting that matchbook isn't necessary. Anyone disagree, perhaps I'm missing someone.
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    • ForgetWallStreet
      SBR Sharp
      • 04-27-07
      • 342

      #247
      Originally posted by evo34
      If Matchbook is truly superfluous to you, you are prob. betting 50k a pop....every time.
      Or maybe he just prefers making bets that have a decent edge?
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #248
        Originally posted by LostBankroll
        MB is solid. I would drop 100 k in there no problem.



        Interesting, good to hear.
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        • skrtelfan
          SBR MVP
          • 10-09-08
          • 1913

          #249
          Originally posted by Fishhead
          Interesting, good to hear.
          I'd like to hear the evidence of how I "constantly bash Matchbook despite not playing there." You've avoided that question ever since you made your false accusations, you lying shill.
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          • Fishhead
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-11-05
            • 40179

            #250
            Originally posted by skrtelfan
            I'd like to hear the evidence of how I "constantly bash Matchbook despite not playing there." You've avoided that question ever since you made your false accusations, you lying shill.

            Ok, I admit, have no proof you don't play there...........if you do, that's great.

            ..............and you're right, you don't contantly "bash" Matchbook, that was bad wording on my part, but you do constantly bring up nothing but negatives about them.


            Also, by reading post #160 in this thread, it is obvious you do not know how to use MB to your advantage, perhaps you are relatively new to Matchbook and have yet to learn how to use their software properly.

            In any event, if you do have a funded accout with Matchbook, congrats, you are on an excellent pathway to profits.
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #251
              Nice liquidity tonight, MORE THAN RECENTLY, for the NBA............very satisfying.
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              • BAUS
                SBR MVP
                • 08-10-05
                • 2191

                #252
                NBA 2H is always playful when you have Pinnacle and Matchbook going.

                BAUS
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                • jackkkk2009
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-13-09
                  • 1183

                  #253
                  Originally posted by BAUS
                  NBA 2H is always playful when you have Pinnacle and Matchbook going.

                  BAUS
                  Pinnacle and Matchbook combined would be awesome for US sports bettors.
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                  • horsiehung
                    Restricted User
                    • 10-31-10
                    • 258

                    #254
                    very interesting..i hope another exchange will take its place...US is pretty tough with this crap
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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #255
                      Originally posted by BAUS
                      NBA 2H is always playful when you have Pinnacle and Matchbook going.

                      BAUS
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                      • lumpy19
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-12-08
                        • 114

                        #256
                        Originally posted by evo34
                        So what kind of sizeola are you swinging, durito? You've been around for awhile; you've made 12 THOUSAND posts in 5 years. Not exactly the way most multi-millionaires spend their time. If Matchbook is truly superfluous to you, you are prob. betting 50k a pop....every time. If you're anywhere near as sharp as you are cocky, you're raking at least 3% net of vig. Let's assume you're choosy, and you only bet 2,000 games a year (~6 bets per day). So you're up $3 million a year for the past x years, and yet are still poking around SBR six times a day? Something not quite adding up...
                        I don't know durito but I'm pretty sure he's making just a touch more than 6 bets/day
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                        • Fishhead
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-11-05
                          • 40179

                          #257
                          Man your battle stations........NBA halftimes on the way.

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                          • the sink
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 03-04-10
                            • 201

                            #258
                            I am happy this rumour was not true and the credit accounts are back!
                            Still not as good as it was 2weeks ago but I can make money again
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                            • relaaxx
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-15-06
                              • 3281

                              #259
                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                              Man your battle stations........NBA halftimes on the way.

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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #260
                                Originally posted by evo34
                                So what kind of sizeola are you swinging, durito? You've been around for awhile; you've made 12 THOUSAND posts in 5 years. Not exactly the way most multi-millionaires spend their time. If Matchbook is truly superfluous to you, you are prob. betting 50k a pop....every time. If you're anywhere near as sharp as you are cocky, you're raking at least 3% net of vig. Let's assume you're choosy, and you only bet 2,000 games a year (~6 bets per day). So you're up $3 million a year for the past x years, and yet are still poking around SBR six times a day? Something not quite adding up...
                                Yea plenty doesn't add up.
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                                • billsfan12
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 10-08-09
                                  • 233

                                  #261
                                  Lots of my friends wager at Matchbook and love it.
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by billsfan12
                                    Lots of my friends wager at Matchbook and love it.

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                                    • jayc88
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 12-30-07
                                      • 6785

                                      #263
                                      matchbook is great , much lower comissons than betfair , liquidity is pretty good also esp an hour before the games start and payouts usually only take a few seconds during their processing hours.
                                      I'm not sure how anyone who is making money or is only gambling for entertainment purposes does not want to have an account at matchbook.
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                                      • Sawyer
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-01-09
                                        • 7761

                                        #264
                                        I don't understand why people don't use exchanges..still bet on sportsbooks. STL was (Hockey) +184 at sportsbooks but it was +196 @ Matchbook.
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by jayc88
                                          matchbook is great , much lower comissons than betfair , liquidity is pretty good also esp an hour before the games start and payouts usually only take a few seconds during their processing hours.
                                          I'm not sure how anyone who is making money or is only gambling for entertainment purposes does not want to have an account at matchbook.

                                          Perhaps Durtio can enlighten us all with his self-proclaimed know how............???
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                                          • wrongturn
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-06-06
                                            • 2228

                                            #266
                                            I can understand why people don't use exchange because of lacking prop, parlay, teaser, buy/sell points etc. And if they have made enough without it, they don't bother, and they don't encourage others to use it for obvious reasons.
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                                            • Cantstopmenow
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 21

                                              #267
                                              Matchbook is by far the best in the Industry. I love this book!
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                                              • durito
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-03-06
                                                • 13173

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                Perhaps Durtio can enlighten us all with his self-proclaimed know how............???
                                                It's pretty simple dip shit. I'm not betting into efficient lines on major markets right before games start.
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                                                • aca
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-20-06
                                                  • 2111

                                                  #269
                                                  I'm soorry that I haven't more $ there!
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                                                  • Odessa
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 06-04-07
                                                    • 398

                                                    #270
                                                    Just transfer $$$ from another book and you will have $$$$$ there!
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                                                    • skrtelfan
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-09-08
                                                      • 1913

                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Fishhead
                                                      Ok, I admit, have no proof you don't play there...........if you do, that's great.
                                                      Great, when I've constructively pointed out that my soccer offers don't match very often, even when they're the best available on the planet and I'm only trying to match a nickel or less, I'm obviously just making that up and don't really use Matchbook.

                                                      ..............and you're right, you don't contantly "bash" Matchbook, that was bad wording on my part, but you do constantly bring up nothing but negatives about them.
                                                      Right. Search my username and "Matchbook" and I've maybe made 15 or 20 posts pointing out obvious negatives about Matchbook in the past year (software doesn't work with many phones, offers in soccer don't get matched, site goes down for maintenance too often at important times). Only a Matchbook shill like yourself would interpret a handful of posts a month as "constantly?"

                                                      Also, by reading post #160 in this thread, it is obvious you do not know how to use MB to your advantage, perhaps you are relatively new to Matchbook and have yet to learn how to use their software properly.
                                                      WTF are you talking about? There was absolutely no liquidity when I wanted to place a couple NBA bets, so I couldn't bet them at Matchbook. How the hell did I "not use MB to my advantage" when there was nothing available???
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                                                      • Fishhead
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 08-11-05
                                                        • 40179

                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by durito
                                                        It's pretty simple dip shit. I'm not betting into efficient lines on major markets right before games start.
                                                        Mr. Class with yet another brilliant response...........

                                                        Ok, you don't use Matchbook or like them, then stay out of every thread relating to them from now on........simple.
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                                                        • KGambler
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-09-09
                                                          • 2404

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by durito
                                                          I'm not betting into efficient lines on major markets right before games start.
                                                          Either am I.

                                                          But then, I know how to handicap...
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                                                          • KGambler
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-09-09
                                                            • 2404

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by skrtelfan
                                                            Not my definition. I grabbed that from Wikipedia, which is around your level of reading comprehension.
                                                            Again, a very funny post by a low IQ poster who can't get out of his own way... It's only due to your own terrible reading comprehension that you think the wiki article says that is a definition of liquidity. Maybe you want to re-read that paragraph. Maybe you should actually read the first sentence of the paragraph...
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by KGambler
                                                              Either am I.

                                                              But then, I know how to handicap...
                                                              If you knew how to handicap, you'd lock your bets in early instead of waiting to game time or halftime of the NBA. Anyone as sharp as you think you are would be taking advantage of the openers on a regular basis. You're a legend in your own mind.
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                                                              • skrtelfan
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-09-08
                                                                • 1913

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by KGambler
                                                                Either am I.

                                                                But then, I know how to handicap...
                                                                You know how to handicap yet you arb with square books. Ok Hoss.
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                                                                • sharpcat
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 12-19-09
                                                                  • 4516

                                                                  #277
                                                                  KGambler,

                                                                  I am quite confused you argue that matchbook is the holy grail of sports betting even though they offer little to no liquidity until 1 hour till game time, than you claim that you do not bet into efficient markets

                                                                  The reason there is no liquidity at MB until 1 hour till game time is because nobody has the balls to put out offers until pinnacle/cris/Greek have taken action for 20+ hours ironing out the lines allowing all value to be extracted from the market, this makes the market extremely efficient prior to game time.

                                                                  Skrtelfan,

                                                                  You've said way too much, let it go.
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                                                                  • vanzack
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 12-16-06
                                                                    • 478

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Why is it so hard for people to be objective about MB? It is neither perfect nor terrible. What about MB mades most posters in this thread take one of those two sides?

                                                                    How about some facts.....

                                                                    Their deposit and withdrawal options are terrible. Almost unworkable. Ridiculous to expect that recreational gamblers are going to accept that the only real way to deposit and withdraw are through B to B transfers.

                                                                    Their liquidity has gone down over the last several years. While the markets have their ups and downs, overall - there is no comparison to what it once was.

                                                                    Most of MB's advantages can only be taken advantage of on game day, even close to game time. This doesn't fit every gamblers desired process.

                                                                    No parlays, teasers, or exotics.

                                                                    Software that is unfriendly, sticky, and lacks several basic features that would greatly help users and market liquidity.

                                                                    At least some of the time (if not most of the time), the lowest juice you can find on large market sports.

                                                                    No limits, and winners dont get booted.

                                                                    A tremendous history of paying out.

                                                                    If you are ignoring MB as a potential out, you are missing out. If MB is your only out, you are missing out. MB should be part of your arsenal, not your whole arsenal. If you can find a workaround for the current deposit / withdrawal issues, and you have patience, you can often wager at lower juice than you can at most other outs, for more money than at most other outs.

                                                                    Simple. Maybe it would help if Fishhead acknowledged the cons, and guys like Durito acknowledged the pros. It aint all black and white.
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                                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                                      • 10128

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Exactly. I still use MB, but can see and admit they're nothing like they used to be. Yet the same blow-hard (s) keep insisting liquidity is fine because of a few pockets of activity.
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                                                                      • scott235
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 10-12-09
                                                                        • 465

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Why is it so hard for people to be objective about MB? It is neither perfect nor terrible. What about MB mades most posters in this thread take one of those two sides?

                                                                        It's not hard if you don't have an agenda. You obviously don't. Your post was dead on
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