Hollywoodsportsbook - Naughty OR Nice?

[StatsGuru]

Hey All!

Anyone have anything, good or bad, to say about Hollywoodsportsbook.com?

All opinions are appreciated, especially personal experiences!

Thanks!

[Fishhead]

Many here have had better then nice experiences...........shop has been recieving very good reviews of late from some very prominent posters/punters.

[dark star]

Good shop...they currently have some good bonuses' going on.

[jackkkk2009]

Same service as Sportsbook.com provides since they are the same company.

[StatsGuru]

Thanks guys! Appreciate the posts!

[mtneer1212]

I know that they are indirectly related to a less than stellar outfit, but does anyone have any bad feedback on them -- directly Hollywood -- not sportsbook.com horror stories? I'm hoping that they are an up and comer with a good story to tell......

[CollegePro]

how can this place to be good when they are operated by same company as sportsbook.com??

[Mudcat]

My experiences with Hollywood have been good.

[63890000]

been playing with them nothing to bad 2 say abouit them

[Jrod124]

got a check from them awhile back. Better shops out there but this place does pay

[ronald]

Same service as Sportsbook.com provides since they are the same company.

False. Hollywood has unique promotions.

[wisky]

never played there will give them a try

[Fishhead]

If poster RONALD endorses a book, nuff said!!

[ronald]

If poster RONALD endorses a book, nuff said!!

Likewise, sir!

[trixtrix]

Many here have had better then nice experiences...........shop has been recieving very good reviews of late from some very prominent posters/punters.

like seriously: who?

the book stole 4k+ from me 4+ years ago and they think they can claim new ownership and past thefts/misdeeds will be forgotten, lol, there's a reason why they're rated D

[HollywoodSB]

like seriously: who?

the book stole 4k+ from me 4+ years ago and they think they can claim new ownership and past thefts/misdeeds will be forgotten, lol, there's a reason why they're rated D

Trix Trix.. hello I’m Bob Evans, the director of operations here at Hollywood. I noticed your posts over the last few months stating your position regarding Hollywood each time someone mentions us in a post. I finally felt that I had to reply because some things you have stated just are not true.

While I certainly understand your feelings due to what happened to you, The truth is I’d be pissed off too if someone stole 4k from me. But I do want to clear up your perception of reality about a few things.

The reality is HW didn’t just one day say “we need money” lets steal from our players” ……That never happened…. since at the time of this incident, we under control of the Brits (sportingbet) who were the most powerful online gaming brand in the world at the time. And certainly did not need your 4k.

You must have inadvertently violated sportingbet.com’s rules at the time regarding correlated parlays or whatever else you say happened, which is, and always has been, a violation of 90% of all legitimate sportsbooks’ rules. The Brits’s caught it and did what they felt they had to do. They are very staunch when it comes to rules as opposed to American operators who let a lot go by.

But I am not posting to argue whether you did or didn’t violate any rules. I truthfully have no idea. The Brits made a business decision they felt was right at the time and yes it pissed off a lot of people which still haunts the HW brand to this day as per the D+ rating here at SBR.

What I also want to point out is that you still state that HW is under the same ownership as 4+ years ago when that incident took place. Again I again assure you it is not…… no matter what you think. Maybe you know something I don’t. HW reverted back to the original owners a few years ago and has not had only 1 player issue ever since that I know of. We just never publicized that we reverted back to the old management for numerous obvious reasons.

In fact Bill from SBR said in a public post a few months ago about Hollywood “I firmly believe current Hollywood management would never intentionally steal from players” What more of a testimonial do you need about our current operation since you keep mentioning our D rating? It has nothing to do with current management.

Of course we wish our rating was higher but it is what it is because of what the Brits did..not current HW ownership. Yet we carry an ELITE rating at the OSGA which is no less or more important than SBR but at least they understand what happened and made an independent determination. We also continue to be sponsors of the RX and EOG with no problems. If we were thieves as you say, I don’t think they would allow us to be sponsors, putting their players at risk. Just doesn’t make sense on many levels.

You yourself cannot argue that HW has not enjoyed a stellar reputation for 8 years or so before the merger and ever since the buy back. In fact show me some complaints where we have stolen some ones money. You can’t. We don’t need to or care to. The Brits filled the coffers of owners pockets pretty well. lol

Additionally, We are certainly not hiding as you say. In fact just the opposite.

The owners brought me in here last April to ensure our players are satisfied and having fun.. The growth of HW ever since is a clear indication that they certainly are. We are actively engaged with all our players and in all various forums. Note the new site. Contests, prizes, bonuses, etc.

We are in business to stay as we have for 12 years now, continuously building a brand that players love. In fact we are giving away over 25K in cash for our Christmas promo seen here. http://www.hollywoodsportsbook.com/p...ns/monthly.php No deposit required. Its just our way of saying thanks to our loyal players. In fact TrixTrix since you are obviously an HW account holder you are eligible to win also! Give it a try.. It might not be 4k you feel you are owed but it could be more… who knows!

In fact I will double any prize you win. How is that? That is my Christmas gift to you.

I know you will now try to tear me apart with my response but the truth must be told and hopefully other posters here see the reality of HW’s current operations.

Good Luck to all our clients and thanks for your support
Cheers
Bob

[xstud]

Bob,

No offense but the girl in your promo holding the little gift wrapped present is one of the worst photoshop jobs I have seen man. D+ at best.

[BigDaddy]

Trix Trix.. hello I’m Bob Evans, the director of operations here at Hollywood. I noticed your posts over the last few months stating your position regarding Hollywood each time someone mentions us in a post. I finally felt that I had to reply because some things you have stated just are not true.

While I certainly understand your feelings due to what happened to you, The truth is I’d be pissed off too if someone stole 4k from me. But I do want to clear up your perception of reality about a few things.

The reality is HW didn’t just one day say “we need money” lets steal from our players” ……That never happened…. since at the time of this incident, we under control of the Brits (sportingbet) who were the most powerful online gaming brand in the world at the time. And certainly did not need your 4k.

You must have inadvertently violated sportingbet.com’s rules at the time regarding correlated parlays or whatever else you say happened, which is, and always has been, a violation of 90% of all legitimate sportsbooks’ rules. The Brits’s caught it and did what they felt they had to do. They are very staunch when it comes to rules as opposed to American operators who let a lot go by.

But I am not posting to argue whether you did or didn’t violate any rules. I truthfully have no idea. The Brits made a business decision they felt was right at the time and yes it pissed off a lot of people which still haunts the HW brand to this day as per the D+ rating here at SBR.

What I also want to point out is that you still state that HW is under the same ownership as 4+ years ago when that incident took place. Again I again assure you it is not…… no matter what you think. Maybe you know something I don’t. HW reverted back to the original owners a few years ago and has not had only 1 player issue ever since that I know of. We just never publicized that we reverted back to the old management for numerous obvious reasons.

In fact Bill from SBR said in a public post a few months ago about Hollywood “I firmly believe current Hollywood management would never intentionally steal from players” What more of a testimonial do you need about our current operation since you keep mentioning our D rating? It has nothing to do with current management.

Of course we wish our rating was higher but it is what it is because of what the Brits did..not current HW ownership. Yet we carry an ELITE rating at the OSGA which is no less or more important than SBR but at least they understand what happened and made an independent determination. We also continue to be sponsors of the RX and EOG with no problems. If we were thieves as you say, I don’t think they would allow us to be sponsors, putting their players at risk. Just doesn’t make sense on many levels.

You yourself cannot argue that HW has not enjoyed a stellar reputation for 8 years or so before the merger and ever since the buy back. In fact show me some complaints where we have stolen some ones money. You can’t. We don’t need to or care to. The Brits filled the coffers of owners pockets pretty well. lol

Additionally, We are certainly not hiding as you say. In fact just the opposite.

The owners brought me in here last April to ensure our players are satisfied and having fun.. The growth of HW ever since is a clear indication that they certainly are. We are actively engaged with all our players and in all various forums. Note the new site. Contests, prizes, bonuses, etc.

We are in business to stay as we have for 12 years now, continuously building a brand that players love. In fact we are giving away over 25K in cash for our Christmas promo seen here. http://www.hollywoodsportsbook.com/p...ns/monthly.php No deposit required. Its just our way of saying thanks to our loyal players. In fact TrixTrix since you are obviously an HW account holder you are eligible to win also! Give it a try.. It might not be 4k you feel you are owed but it could be more… who knows!

In fact I will double any prize you win. How is that? That is my Christmas gift to you.

I know you will now try to tear me apart with my response but the truth must be told and hopefully other posters here see the reality of HW’s current operations.

Good Luck to all our clients and thanks for your support
Cheers
Bob

LOL!

i love the part about being on RX and EOG meaning you cant be a thief

like they have never had any books steal from the players

unreal

not only do you steal and **** trixtrix out of 4k you make him read this garbage

Bob can i buy you a ******* clue?

[Igetp2s]

They have great promotions. Been very happy there this football season.

[trixtrix]

allow me to refute all your pts with FACTS

That never happened…. since at the time of this incident, we under control of the Brits (sportingbet) who were the most powerful online gaming brand in the world at the time. And certainly did not need your 4k.

1.) okay LMAO at the "BRITISH IS COMING" excuse, did you know henry paulson used the same excuse to blame the british gov't for lehman's failure b/c they blocked a deal which would've allowed barclays to acquire lehmans? it's almost the bizzaro version of the "cheating on spouse rule" in the movie "roadtrip", it's not REALLY your fault if you can blame it on someone else.

EXCEPT..

2.) that excuse is a TOTAL LIE. we'll goto sbr achives for PROOF:

a.] this blurb first showed in october 06: 10/12/2006 04:47 PM
Sportingbet PLC sells sportsbook.com (SBR rating D+) and US-facing business to "existing management team"

b.] YOU STOLE CP WINNINGS RETROACTIVE IN OCTOBER 07: 10/11/2007 11:10 PM
sportsbook.com (SBR rating D+) confiscates winnings made from correlated parlay bets dating back over one month.

that's right, YOU (meaning sb.com and hollywood skin management team) retroactive STOLE winnings ONE YEAR after the "brits" (sportingbet) kicked you out of britain and back to USA

you can't even get a simple time line straight (ONE YEAR has passed no less) and you expect people to believe the rest of your excuses?

but for hilarity sake let's keep going..

You must have inadvertently violated sportingbet.com’s rules at the time regarding correlated parlays or whatever else you say happened, which is, and always has been, a violation of 90% of all legitimate sportsbooks’ rules. The Brits’s caught it and did what they felt they had to do. They are very staunch when it comes to rules as opposed to American operators who let a lot go by.

3.) yea we didn't "inadvertently" violate anything, no upstanding book has EVER RETROACTIVELY CONFISCATED winning sports wagers. there must be 500+ books in sbr's rating guide w/ a grade of D or higher (excluding F's obv since they would stiff regardless), out of all of them, there were ONLY THREE books i know of that have retroactively stole parlay winnings from players: sb.com/hollywood, canbet, and wagerweb.

so if you want to burn in rogue hell in company of those other TWO shady books, feel free. but it's OBVIOUSLY NOT 90% of legit books who will stiff in that situation.

truthfully have no idea. The Brits made a business decision they felt was right at the time and yes it pissed off a lot of people which still haunts the HW brand to this day as per the D+ rating here at SBR.

4.) really, so you're claiming hollywood has absolutely no choice in this matter?

then how come more honourable sb.com skins such as BETUSA, SPoRTSBETTING.COM, BROBURY REFUSED to confiscate winners and paid out everyone IN FULL out of their own pocket?

so obv those skins had a choice, and THEY CHOSE to protect the players. says alot about the hollywood MANAGEMENT team don't it?

Yet we carry an ELITE rating at the OSGA which is no less or more important than SBR but at least they understand what happened and made an independent determination. We also continue to be sponsors of the RX and EOG with no problems. If we were thieves as you say, I don’t think they would allow us to be sponsors, putting their players at risk. Just doesn’t make sense on many levels.

5.) therx/eog/osga banners are ALL store-bought, you know this as well as i do. remember the lazerwager and BetOnSports fiasco? they also carried a banner on eog/therx, they STIFFED EVERYONE, some really reputable books advertising on there right?

in fact, i strongly suspect you wanted to buy a promo spot on sbr and they refused unless you paid back all stiffed winners in the past. that's why you're bragging about being promoted at the shady joints.

also, it sure says alot about your credibility when you're willing to invest tons of money into advertising and bonuses while refusing to pay a legit past debt. you obv have the money, yet you choose to spend it on bringing in new fish instead of satisfying old existing debts.

You yourself cannot argue that HW has not enjoyed a stellar reputation for 8 years or so before the merger and ever since the buy back. In fact show me some complaints where we have stolen some ones money. You can’t. We don’t need to or care to.

6.) no arguments there, before the switch to sb.com, hollywood was one of the more reputable outfits out there. but past reputation does not indicate future credit (note the case of cascade for instance).

in fact, the ONLY reason why i signed up initially at hollywood was b/c your previous "good" reputation. i had NO SAY when you switched over to sb.com brand. you FORCED me to use their system. i thought though i would be safe b/c of hollywood's past rep as a player advocate book. shows how much i know huh?

hollywood agreed to stiff while BETUSA PAID, who was the more HONOURABLE book in this case?

do you think it's fair to someone who signed up to hollywood b/c of their reputation, got forced over to sb.com platform, which then stiffed us, to hear NOW FOUR YEARS LATER about your "great" past reputation?

http://www.hollywoodsportsbook.com/promotions/monthly.php No deposit required. Its just our way of saying thanks to our loyal players. In fact TrixTrix since you are obviously an HW account holder you are eligible to win also! Give it a try.. It might not be 4k you feel you are owed but it could be more… who knows!

In fact I will double any prize you win. How is that? That is my Christmas gift to you.

6.) i have a counter-proposal: put back the 3,854$ hollywood STOLE from me, (as well as reinburse any other cp affected players that hollywood stole from), agree to not limit my bets, and i will satsify 8x rollover on my money.

just think of it this way: you will have profited from a 4 year interest-free loan + vig x8 additional cut. assuming 5% interest, annual compounding, and standard -110 lines, you will have earned 3854* (1.05 ^ 4-1) + 8 * 3854* (.0455)= 2,233$ from me and this mess

[Chopsticks]

do you think it's fair to someone who signed up to hollywood b/c of their reputation, got forced over to sb.com platform, which then stiffed us, to hear NOW FOUR YEARS LATER about your "great" past reputation? [/B]

Not by a mile. Funny how he uses past reputation/stuff when it suits him, but not when they have done something wrong (confiscating CP money). Scumbags.

I still play there though

[skrtelfan]

What a joke. With their attitude of basically defending the CP thefts, there's no way to ensure that they won't do something similar again. And the RX promotes plenty of scam books, and EOG did during the Shrink era, so that's absolutely meaningless.

[Monte]

After reading this horrible post from "Bob", i don't think anyone should play there. A sportsbook director using terms like "i'd be pissed too" but not paying the old debts, wtf?!?

[wtt0315]

stupid emails they send out

[King_Suckerman]

I bet the OP didn't expect some of these responses.

All useful info i.m.o.

[Fishhead]

like seriously: who?

Baus, Ronald, Mathdotcom, Igetp2s, Mudcat, Sportsavant, and myself..............to name just a few.

[trixtrix]

then i wish you all best of luck in your bets, winnings and cashout from this joint

[Monte]

Baus, Ronald, Mathdotcom, Igetp2s, Mudcat, Sportsavant, and myself..............to name just a few.

All arbers/bonus whores, you rarely get a honest answer from those.

[aceking]

Many here have had better then nice experiences...........shop has been recieving very good reviews of late from some very prominent posters/punters.

My experiences with Hollywood have been good.

A+ rated sportsbook since 2005 !

[Fishhead]

then i wish you all best of luck in your bets, winnings and cashout from this joint

Thanks TT

[aceking]

Great book for arbers since 2005 !

Check out their Xmas promo for valued customers :

[zebra58]

only book i've seen to allow u.s players but residents of 4 u.s states can't join, do they just frown on those states or scared of b.s regulations?

[princecharles]

i may just give them a chance now..wasn't sure before

[twermert]

Thanks folks, will give them a try now too.

[Fishhead]

We are very lucky to have posters such as BAUS and RONALD posting here.