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  • Chuck Sims
    SBR MVP
    • 12-29-05
    • 3072

    #71
    "I like Matchbook but they aren't taking 3k-5k on sides. Anyone that tells you they will is lying."

    Matchbook is an exchange. Someone is accepting my large offers. Sometimes a lot more than 3k-5k.

    One more thing, M casino does not offer betting phone accounts to locals.
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    • cyberinvestor
      SBR MVP
      • 04-30-10
      • 1952

      #72
      Originally posted by LVBOUND
      Cyber.... when you say casino player what do you mean? Luke if I play lots of table games?
      Yeah, if you have a lot of table play they will give you higher limits in the sportsbook.
      Today is the tomorrow we worried about yesterday.
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      • LVBOUND
        SBR MVP
        • 07-25-08
        • 2658

        #73
        Well I can't wait to the bash to do some more research. I also did singer apartment research and found a bunch of apartments halfway between the strip and The M. All for around six or seven hundred. I think that would beer perfect so I could be closer to both.
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        • Hareeba!
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-01-06
          • 37301

          #74
          [quote=BrigadierPudding; I like Matchbook but they aren't taking 3k-5k on sides. Anyone that tells you they will is lying.[/quote]

          Exchanges are different to normal books where you can just waltz up and put your whole stake on in one go.

          Exchange players need to have some patience. Frequently you won't be able to get set in full first up. But putting in a bid will draw more action mostly. If you don't leave it till just before game time you will more often than not do better odds-wise and get your whole stake down.
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          • Pokerjoe
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-17-09
            • 704

            #75
            Originally posted by soli
            Offshore is more convient but Vegas is more secure
            Everyone keeps saying this, but when you bet offshore, you can't lose a ticket or get mugged in the parkinglot. And the driving/parking/in-wait-bet-then-out-then/driving/parking thing gets old in a hurry.
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            • rise
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-01-09
              • 372

              #76
              could allways pay some and use a runner in VEGAS to do your work
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              • INVEGA MAN
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-30-08
                • 6800

                #77
                Been to Vegas 100 times and still waiting to get mugged
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                • rise
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 03-01-09
                  • 372

                  #78
                  you are right i lived in VEGAS and worked in sportsbook never seen someone mugged you could cash tickets at main cage when books close get paid in chips, get a players card and get vouchers back same as cash but has your id number on ticket etc etc .
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                  • LVBOUND
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-25-08
                    • 2658

                    #79
                    Invega,

                    You took the word right out of my mouth. Jeez some people will think of ant excuse to defend offshore betting.

                    Heck if i lived in another country I would play Pinny, but living in America and seeing how tough they make it on us to bet I don't trust wiring 25 dimes to an offshore account.

                    Especially if I got to do it by sending a ** to a freaking unknown Costa Rican who lives in the hills and is being paid by the books to used their names.

                    Can you say no ******* recourse!

                    Matt
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                    • LVBOUND
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-25-08
                      • 2658

                      #80
                      Oh and by the way on the part about losing tickets, its the same as a misclick.
                      I remember 2 years ago I was trying to put a wager in on a college football Saturday. I had an extravagant parlay. 6 teams with buying points.

                      It worked out to roughly 100 to make like 1350. I was using the Greek. Anyways the wife kept rushing me to leave. Si after I mare the bet I forgot to hit confirm after entering my account password.

                      I get home hours later thinking I won and see my confirm screen still up.

                      It happens anywhere you play. Mistakes just happened.

                      Matt
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                      • heyman
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 03-16-09
                        • 178

                        #81
                        Originally posted by BrigadierPudding
                        I like Matchbook but they aren't taking 3k-5k on sides. Anyone that tells you they will is lying.
                        You have no idea what you're talking about.
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                        • BROOKLYN BOY
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 07-11-07
                          • 265

                          #82
                          Originally posted by LVBOUND
                          Oh and by the way on the part about losing tickets, its the same as a misclick.
                          I remember 2 years ago I was trying to put a wager in on a college football Saturday. I had an extravagant parlay. 6 teams with buying points.

                          It worked out to roughly 100 to make like 1350. I was using the Greek. Anyways the wife kept rushing me to leave. Si after I mare the bet I forgot to hit confirm after entering my account password.

                          I get home hours later thinking I won and see my confirm screen still up.

                          It happens anywhere you play. Mistakes just happened.

                          Matt
                          oh man ....thats a tough break
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                          • Pokerjoe
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 04-17-09
                            • 704

                            #83
                            I've never been mugged either, but there have been sportsbettors getting robbed. Follow homes and such. Don't worry about it if you don't want to.

                            But I've lost tickets, and misgraded them.

                            But here's a good thing about Vegas: your bankroll goes further. Offshore, you have to have more money to bet the same amount because you have to keep so much parked in different books just in case that's where the best line is.

                            But as to the paying a runner comment: you'd better be a big player to cover the expense; you'd better not EVER get beat by the runner himself.
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                            • rise
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 03-01-09
                              • 372

                              #84
                              true you need to trust runner i know some guys been there 20 years also if you make your own bets sportsbook will comp you food rooms etc but some bettors dont care they dont want to be tracked
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                              • Chuck Sims
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-29-05
                                • 3072

                                #85
                                Originally posted by rise
                                true you need to trust runner i know some guys been there 20 years also if you make your own bets sportsbook will comp you food rooms etc but some bettors dont care they dont want to be tracked
                                Those days are long gone.
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                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-12-07
                                  • 12144

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                  I've never been mugged either, but there have been sportsbettors getting robbed. Follow homes and such. Don't worry about it if you don't want to.

                                  But I've lost tickets, and misgraded them.

                                  But here's a good thing about Vegas: your bankroll goes further. Offshore, you have to have more money to bet the same amount because you have to keep so much parked in different books just in case that's where the best line is.

                                  But as to the paying a runner comment: you'd better be a big player to cover the expense; you'd better not EVER get beat by the runner himself.
                                  Uhh. If you lose tickets here, you can file a claim with the book and receive your funds in 120 days.
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                                  • MonkeyF0cker
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-12-07
                                    • 12144

                                    #87
                                    The M takes $10k/$5k on MLB sides/totals on game day and sometimes more. Overnights are $1k/$1k. FYI.

                                    You can't call books here and ask them questions about lines/limits. It's against gaming law.
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                                    • rise
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 03-01-09
                                      • 372

                                      #88
                                      just move to Vegas and set up shop
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                                      • Scooter
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-15-07
                                        • 1159

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
                                        Been to Vegas 100 times and still waiting to get mugged
                                        The waiting list has subsided.

                                        Sign up on your next visit - you shouldn't have to wait these days.
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                                        • betyuda
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 07-21-09
                                          • 280

                                          #90
                                          hows the real estate in vegas?? i m looking to buy a second home as a vacation spot
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                                          • Maxmillion
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-18-10
                                            • 2642

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by betyuda
                                            hows the real estate in vegas?? i m looking to buy a second home as a vacation spot
                                            prices have leveled off from the free fall of last year but there are still plenty of homes out here for good prices, still a buyers market imho especially if you plan to hold on to the place.
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                                            • Scooter
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-15-07
                                              • 1159

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by betyuda
                                              hows the real estate in vegas?? i m looking to buy a second home as a vacation spot
                                              I get a monthly email real estate report from a broker who has provided very helpful information to me in the past. This is his report from May:

                                              "Your Las Vegas Real Estate Market report from Jim Marrs has arrived. The data is directly from the Multiple Listing Service (MLS), and it shows some of the major trends in our Las Vegas area housing market.

                                              The number of listings in the Multiple Listing Service reversed its long term downward trend, moving up to 11076 in May. The sales pricing continued linger at $78/sf for the average sales price for May. The number of bank-owned (foreclosed) homes sold continued to drop to 1440 homes, as the number of short sales (pre-foreclosure) homes built up and break 1000, hitting 1039 sales for the first time.

                                              Chart 1 –Average Sales Price per Square Foot
                                              The Average Sales Price per Square Foot held at $78/sf in.
                                              Bank-owned homes (foreclosures) sold averaged $71/sf.
                                              Cash purchases made up 42% of the home sales.

                                              Chart 2 – Total Homes Sold
                                              The total homes sold remained low. The number of bank-owned sales continued to trend down to 40% of sold homes in May. While the number of short sales continue to move up to 29% of the total sales in May. This is reflecting the Federal government’s new HAFA law requiring the banks to work with owners to avoid foreclosures. The banks are still very slow in responding to the short sales taking 7.6 months to close; there are 11,665 short sale homes in escrow (seller and buyer have signed a contract to sell) waiting for the seller’s banks to process them.
                                              3566 Total Sold
                                              1442 Bank-Owned Sold (41%) ($71/sf average)
                                              1039 Short Sales Sold (29%) ($75/sf average)

                                              Chart 3 – Total Homes Listed For Sale in MLS
                                              The total number of homes listed in MLS reversed the previous two month tread downward, moving up to 11077 listed homes in May. 58% of all the listings in the area are either short sales or bank-owned homes. This is a reflection of the home mortgages owed on 65% of the homes in the area exceed the market values of the homes.
                                              11076 Total Listed
                                              2003 Bank-Owned Listed (18%)
                                              4525 Short Sales Listed (40%)

                                              Scroll down the email to view each of the three charts.

                                              Have a Great Day!

                                              Jim Marrs
                                              Better Homes & Gardens / Desert Properties
                                              Direct: 702-354-3479
                                              Toll-free: 866-666-9595
                                              Fax: 866-666-9494
                                              www.jamesmarrs.com"

                                              [I'm not going to attempt to post the charts].
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                                              • rise
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 03-01-09
                                                • 372

                                                #93
                                                great info break it down for us will use
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                                                • csm506
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-10-10
                                                  • 1402

                                                  #94
                                                  I too used to deal with the greek for years , and then check issues ensued this past spring, and now they have taken a prominent prepaid debit card deposit method away, I have left the greek and the on-line industry for US based customers is squeezing the heck out of everyone to the point that old style bookies will be fashionable again... Anyone
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                                                  • fido007
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 04-15-09
                                                    • 97

                                                    #95
                                                    Do the vegas books take out taxes when you win
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                                                    • rise
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 03-01-09
                                                      • 372

                                                      #96
                                                      just keep it $10,000 and under at each casino then no paper work or you can take chips and cash or bet off you winning tickets $10,000 is the magic number thats in same day
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                                                      • trumpdown
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-21-09
                                                        • 755

                                                        #97
                                                        Anyone in the know list all Vegas properties that have Live in-play wagering.

                                                        M is one. What are the other ones?
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                                                        • JerseyLove
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-15-10
                                                          • 2183

                                                          #98
                                                          hahaha you should know the asnwer before asking
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                                                          • trumpdown
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 01-21-09
                                                            • 755

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by JerseyLove
                                                            hahaha you should know the asnwer before asking
                                                            Venetian, Palazzo...anymore?
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                                                            • Maxmillion
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-18-10
                                                              • 2642

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by trumpdown
                                                              Venetian, Palazzo...anymore?
                                                              i heard the hard rock was going to start in game this fall before the football season
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                                                              • fido007
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 04-15-09
                                                                • 97

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by rise
                                                                just keep it $10,000 and under at each casino then no paper work or you can take chips and cash or bet off you winning tickets $10,000 is the magic number thats in same day
                                                                this hardly ever happens but what if you cash in 3 $5000 tickets in a sportsbook at different times of day.how would they handle that or would they do nothing?Thanks
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                                                                • rise
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 03-01-09
                                                                  • 372

                                                                  #102
                                                                  they keep logs called money transactions logs aka MTL anything over $3000 they put it down like what color hair what shrit how tall etc if it goes over $10,000 they have to do a CTR were they ask for S S number and I D you could cash in morning at night and wait to sportsbook to close and cash at the main cage most managers dont what to fill out CTR so sometimes they lie on report about what you look like it goes based on a 24 hour period like 1200am to 1200am some people bet of winning ticket so they dont go over $10.000 not to hard to do it
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                                                                  • grekos
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 03-16-10
                                                                    • 494

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Just cash them after a major game.Like Today after the socer game.With the lines soo long they refrain from irs forms.
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                                                                    • BrigadierPudding
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 11-07-09
                                                                      • 617

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by trumpdown
                                                                      Venetian, Palazzo...anymore?
                                                                      Leroys started in progress betting late in the NBA season, but it was only available for a few games per day.
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                                                                      • Tomato
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-29-09
                                                                        • 1251

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by betyuda
                                                                        hows the real estate in vegas?? i m looking to buy a second home as a vacation spot
                                                                        You would be making a terrible decision to buy in this market.
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