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  • jackkkk2009
    SBR MVP
    • 07-13-09
    • 1183

    #1
    downgraded books
    there are several books have been downgraded. including the very slow-pay book, WSEX... if they still don't resolve their slow-pay issues, they may be blacklisted at the end of this year.. will they?
  • Hareeba!
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-01-06
    • 37283

    #2
    Originally posted by jackkkk2009
    there are several books have been downgraded. including the very slow-pay book, WSEX... if they still don't resolve their slow-pay issues, they may be blacklisted at the end of this year.. will they?
    I wouldn't wait.
    Been on my blacklist since last year
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    • djefferis
      SBR MVP
      • 08-16-08
      • 1197

      #3
      Blacklist, no

      c- book, steadily sliding and needs a large infusion of cash and mgmt to make it...could happen
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      • Hareeba!
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 07-01-06
        • 37283

        #4
        Originally posted by djefferis
        Blacklist, no

        c- book, steadily sliding and needs a large infusion of cash and mgmt to make it...could happen

        so what makes a book earn blacklisting for you?

        obviously not inability to meet player withdrawals
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        • austin
          Restricted User
          • 04-16-09
          • 901

          #5
          if safety of the funds is under question - that's a blacklisted book in my practice
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          • djefferis
            SBR MVP
            • 08-16-08
            • 1197

            #6
            Wsex, jazz, ect are paying...slowly in some cases, same boat as BP is in.

            Blacklist is when they are clear no pays. All listed are books showing warning signs, but who can potentially recover. Buyer beware.
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            • Herrington
              Restricted User
              • 06-07-10
              • 94

              #7
              Diamond Sports Book is one of the best books in payouts they get your wetern union problably in two days they are good and there costumer service is excelent it´s justa a manner of time because they pay. And they are really good the lines are ok but it is a fact they are good!
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              • yobinad
                SBR Sharp
                • 06-26-09
                • 332

                #8
                Diamond is good
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                • Hareeba!
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 07-01-06
                  • 37283

                  #9
                  Originally posted by djefferis
                  Wsex, jazz, ect are paying...slowly in some cases, same boat as BP is in.

                  Blacklist is when they are clear no pays. All listed are books showing warning signs, but who can potentially recover. Buyer beware.
                  disagree
                  that's shutting the stable door after the nag has bolted
                  blacklisting should occur when a book fails to pay withdrawal requests in full and/or in a timely manner
                  no player should be putting money into a book when this is occurring ... that's the whole point of blacklisting in my view
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                  • Thremp
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-23-07
                    • 2067

                    #10
                    Pinnacle declined a withdrawal of mine. Blacklist.
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                    • Hareeba!
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 07-01-06
                      • 37283

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Thremp
                      Pinnacle declined a withdrawal of mine. Blacklist.

                      as per usual, no details provided
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                      • sneak-a-peak
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-07-09
                        • 1373

                        #12
                        Ya any book that has anyone waiting 4 months or more for a withdrawal certainly deserves to be blacklisted! They are farkin aceholes!
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                        • M@ximo
                          Restricted User
                          • 03-16-10
                          • 375

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                          as per usual, no details provided

                          Exaclty what i always say..., no info provided.
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                          • Thremp
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-23-07
                            • 2067

                            #14
                            What is there to explain? I tried to make a withdrawal and they told me, "No."
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                            • Hareeba!
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 07-01-06
                              • 37283

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Thremp
                              What is there to explain? I tried to make a withdrawal and they told me, "No."
                              There must have been a reason for such an unusual response. What was it?
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                              • DIF
                                Restricted User
                                • 08-30-05
                                • 648

                                #16
                                Thremp

                                if that is a joke, its a very bad joke.

                                Pinnacle Sports is the Internet’s leading sports betting site serving customers in more than 100 countries worldwide.
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                                • Thremp
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-23-07
                                  • 2067

                                  #17
                                  They didn't give me a reason. I assume I wanted too much money as it was in their "for approval" range, which they didn't approve.

                                  Perhaps you should understand wtf you're talking about before you open your mouth.

                                  Wish the mods would clean the filthy scum out of here.
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                                  • Thremp
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-23-07
                                    • 2067

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DIF
                                    Thremp if that is a joke, its a very bad joke. Pinnacle Sports is the Internet’s leading sports betting site serving customers in more than 100 countries worldwide.
                                    No. Every book has policies about withdrawals. I consider Pinnacle's fine. It lags Eurotard books but is reasonable. Its hard to create a coherent "metric" for withdrawals as there is some idea of a "normal" withdrawal that should be paid in a timely manner. I think Pinnacle could be improved slightly in this regard. But its a minor flaw. Something like Justbet where they pay $750 per week while allowing multi-thousand dollar deposits is just asinine.

                                    As with everything, most hard and fast rules are useful as quick heuristics but fail to provide any useful information to a more thorough review.
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                                    • Hareeba!
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 07-01-06
                                      • 37283

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Thremp
                                      They didn't give me a reason. I assume I wanted too much money as it was in their "for approval" range, which they didn't approve.

                                      Perhaps you should understand wtf you're talking about before you open your mouth.
                                      Given my long experience at Pinnacle if you'd asked for a reason I'm very sure you'd have been provided with one.
                                      That is certainly not a normal occurrence and really has nothing to do with the issue of the thread.

                                      So I take it from your posts that you are quite happy to continue putting money into books which continue to short and slow pay customers?
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                                      • Thremp
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-23-07
                                        • 2067

                                        #20
                                        I'm happy making money. Anything to that end is all I curr about.
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                                        • Hareeba!
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 07-01-06
                                          • 37283

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Thremp
                                          I'm happy making money. Anything to that end is all I curr about.

                                          ok, good luck making all that money .... regardless of whether they are real $$$ or the Monopoly variety
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                                          • JoeVig
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-11-08
                                            • 772

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Thremp
                                            Something like Justbet where they pay $750 per week while allowing multi-thousand dollar deposits is just asinine.
                                            Skybook was in this boat for a long time before they hosted/merged/sold/whatever their product with BetPhoenix. I quit following after that.
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                                            • Thremp
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-23-07
                                              • 2067

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                              ok, good luck making all that money .... regardless of whether they are real $$$ or the Monopoly variety
                                              I'd put my scoreboard up against yours without a second thought.
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                                              • Hareeba!
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 07-01-06
                                                • 37283

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Thremp
                                                I'd put my scoreboard up against yours without a second thought.
                                                par fro the course .. avoid the issue and introduce something totally irrelevant

                                                btw. I've never lost a cent through playing at dodgy books failing to pay
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                                                • M@ximo
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 03-16-10
                                                  • 375

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Thremp
                                                  No. Every book has policies about withdrawals. I consider Pinnacle's fine. It lags Eurotard books but is reasonable. Its hard to create a coherent "metric" for withdrawals as there is some idea of a "normal" withdrawal that should be paid in a timely manner. I think Pinnacle could be improved slightly in this regard. But its a minor flaw. Something like Justbet where they pay $750 per week while allowing multi-thousand dollar deposits is just asinine.

                                                  As with everything, most hard and fast rules are useful as quick heuristics but fail to provide any useful information to a more thorough review.
                                                  Thanks for keep replying.., that makes more beliveble the situation.., my concern is that usually there a lot of guys that post things like ''those guys screwed me''... ''they stole my money''... but never come back to tell the real story.

                                                  What i usually do, just in case you want to doit on the future, i email the guys and if they dont have a real answer for me, i put the email on a forum so people can see it. Try to do that, usually it will give a little more presure for the book.

                                                  Good luck with that... keep us posted...
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                                                  • Peep
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-23-08
                                                    • 2295

                                                    #26
                                                    I don't know what Pinnacle's daily limits are.

                                                    I was surprised to find out that Greek has a $5000 US daily limit on MB. But turns out that this is just daily, you can take out $35K a week, so it all works out.

                                                    Anyone know what Pinnacle's daily limits are for withdrawals?
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 37283

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Peep
                                                      I don't know what Pinnacle's daily limits are.

                                                      I was surprised to find out that Greek has a $5000 US daily limit on MB. But turns out that this is just daily, you can take out $35K a week, so it all works out.

                                                      Anyone know what Pinnacle's daily limits are for withdrawals?
                                                      Why don't you ask them?

                                                      It's at least $15K, never put them to the test for more than that so I really don't know

                                                      But only one free per calendar month
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                                                      • Peep
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-23-08
                                                        • 2295

                                                        #28
                                                        Yeah, Pinnacle's OK with me too Harebaal.

                                                        I asked them for 12K Neteller at 1 am their time a few years back, took them all of 15 minutes to send it to me.
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                                                        • Climate
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 01-22-07
                                                          • 345

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Peep
                                                          Yeah, Pinnacle's OK with me too Harebaal.

                                                          I asked them for 12K Neteller at 1 am their time a few years back, took them all of 15 minutes to send it to me.
                                                          Just in case you were always wondering, yes, they CAN send it out just as fast as they can take it in.
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                                                          • chunnnn2010
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 05-18-10
                                                            • 268

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Peep
                                                            Yeah, Pinnacle's OK with me too Harebaal.

                                                            I asked them for 12K Neteller at 1 am their time a few years back, took them all of 15 minutes to send it to me.

                                                            pinnacle is always the best. i remember when they were still in US market, i requested two payouts via neteller in a day. they paid me with the same day. and pretty fast..
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                                                            • Reload
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-23-08
                                                              • 12249

                                                              #31
                                                              Stick to the topic, guys - best to take the bickering crap elsewhere.
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                                                              • Hareeba!
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 07-01-06
                                                                • 37283

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Reload
                                                                Stick to the topic, guys - best to take the bickering crap elsewhere.
                                                                mate, that's all I've been trying to do

                                                                I responded to Peep saying he didn't know what Pinnacle's daily withdrawal limit is with my own experience there.

                                                                Thremp comes aboard saying it's all false and bullshit, effectively calling me a liar as well as a "noob"

                                                                When called upon to explain what is false and bullshit he can't but proceeds to call me a "poseur"

                                                                And this isn't the first thread in which he's behaved like this.

                                                                No other forum I've ever been involved with would tolerate his behaviour.
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                                                                • Climate
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 01-22-07
                                                                  • 345

                                                                  #33
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