I just finished a live chat with BP about a possible transfer to a First Fidelity Book (YouWager or BetPop). They say they can do up to a $3500 transfer with them once a week for a $20 fee. It takes 24-48 hours. This may be the way to go for people with huge balances there.
Is betphoenix a sinking ship???
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HedgeHogSBR Posting Legend
- 09-11-07
- 10128
#141Comment -
steve18SBR Wise Guy
- 11-26-09
- 662
#142Is it possible that they have issues with their check processor for a certain amount but can do a few hundred via Moneygram? Maybe some of you should break up your withdrawls and get ** paid. I love ** with BP. I got it next day.Comment -
midnight777Restricted User
- 09-10-09
- 504
#143i am going to deposit the 100 for 100... I hope they are legit....Comment -
Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
- 12-14-05
- 13764
#144I appreciate the offer to help but its not worth my time (or your time) over what is literally a couple dollars on a few different wagers. The whole point of it bothers me more then the $4 or $8 per wager. If you want to get in touch with BP and ask them about this, feel free. Im sure Im not the only one they are doing this to.
They stand to gain nothing from it.
Don't they have a minimum for bets over the phone?Comment -
me-firstSBR MVP
- 05-01-10
- 1054
#145midnight.....Why would you make your first deposit there, after reading this thread? just wondering.
I've been with BetPhoenix since they opened shop and have been a very happy camper, always got same day payouts. I just can't bring myself to playing there right now. The sole reason I read the forums is to see the "bad" before it happens to me. Something is just not right at BetPhoenix now. How could one be comfortable playing there now knowing all the problems others are having? I'm a very loyal person, and like I've said, I've been treated great at Betphoenix. I have no choice though, then to "wait and see", before I consider another deposit.
There's obviously security and proccessor issues. Is thers a cash flow problem? I couldn't possibly know, but I'm leaning toward "no". I do know though that when the "watchdogs" tell you that so and so has a ton of money behind them and they're very soild financially, it doesn't mean a thing. I've heard the same thing more than once, only to hear later, " the backers backed out"........Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#146midnight.....Why would you make your first deposit there, after reading this thread? just wondering.
I've been with BetPhoenix since they opened shop and have been a very happy camper, always got same day payouts. I just can't bring myself to playing there right now. The sole reason I read the forums is to see the "bad" before it happens to me. Something is just not right at BetPhoenix now. How could one be comfortable playing there now knowing all the problems others are having? I'm a very loyal person, and like I've said, I've been treated great at Betphoenix. I have no choice though, then to "wait and see", before I consider another deposit.
There's obviously security and proccessor issues. Is thers a cash flow problem? I couldn't possibly know, but I'm leaning toward "no". I do know though that when the "watchdogs" tell you that so and so has a ton of money behind them and they're very soild financially, it doesn't mean a thing. I've heard the same thing more than once, only to hear later, " the backers backed out"........
A++ post!!
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FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#147Why are these problems with BP not discussed more in the PLAYERS TALK forum?
Many posters never even read this forum.Comment -
KingKolzigSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-02-10
- 5550
#148it doesnt matter. anyone who deserves to cash out from a selected book should have queried the book several times on many websites before depositing, really making up their own rating. where the threads are posted shouldnt matterComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy
- 08-11-05
- 40179
#149Sure it does, posters in PT are depositing with BP right and left with no clue of the issues with BPComment -
pokerplayer22SBR MVP
- 05-09-09
- 1207
#150Honestly i have no idea why they pull this crap over just a couple dollars. It happened again yesterday. I called in for 1 line on my way home from work and I was quoted Florida Marlins -131 over the phone. Immediately I told them I wanted a straight play on Florida and wanted to risk 262 to win 200. Then the rep on the phone told me "Im sorry sir, but the line is now Marlins -134. So I had to risk 268 to win 200. The wager won so it didnt matter, but if it had lost, it would have cost me $6 because of their nonsense. It just doesnt make sense to me why they would do this.Comment -
saints7011SBR Hall of Famer
- 09-21-09
- 5544
#151if they're not smart enough to check the sportsbook forum , then thats there problem , how are you not going to check the sportsbook forum , that just makes no sense at all...Comment -
ScorpionSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-04-05
- 7797
#152betphoenix is cascade IIComment -
blix177Restricted User
- 09-20-08
- 1520
#153FYI, I withdrawl over $30k over the last 9 months and deposit $20k. Haven't had a problem with withdrwal that wasn't handle within 1 day.Comment -
crinkleSBR High Roller
- 12-20-07
- 208
#154I think you people need to take a chill pill. Clearly this company is having a processor issue causing significant payout delays. It's easy to think the delays are the beginning signs of a books demise but I don't see it that way. Look years ago a so called D- book like Sportsbook.com had brutal payout delays and as far as I'm concerned your money is as safe there as just about any book. For the life of me I don't understand why Jazzette get a crap rating around here. My guess is it's because they've taken funds from people who took advantage of loopholes in their software.
Good luck but relax on Phoenix and give them a chance to pay but certainly don't keep funding the book until they straighten out their payout problems. (Never makes sense to fund a place which doesn't pay quickly)Comment -
ThrempSBR MVP
- 07-23-07
- 2067
#155BP has processor problems for neteller/Moneybookers/check/wire/**/**?
Amazing.Comment -
crinkleSBR High Roller
- 12-20-07
- 208
#156What I've been told is the reason why there withdrawls are backed up is they're having problems with their existing check processor and as result almost all their payouts are being sent via Money Gram. Do I believe everything they tell me? No, but I don't get the vibe they're in trouble. It does make sense if they're having trouble sending checks they could be experiencing major delays sending out Money Gram's because of limitations on how many they can process daily for their customers. Who knows but Thremp you're not exactly the voice of reason around here. You're just of the belief that everyone is out to screw the players in a business in which the odds clearly favor the bookmaker. Get a clue dude and take some smart pills.Comment -
pokerplayer22SBR MVP
- 05-09-09
- 1207
#157What I've been told is the reason why there withdrawls are backed up is they're having problems with their existing check processor and as result almost all their payouts are being sent via Money Gram. Do I believe everything they tell me? No, but I don't get the vibe they're in trouble. It does make sense if they're having trouble sending checks they could be experiencing major delays sending out Money Gram's because of limitations on how many they can process daily for their customers. Who knows but Thremp you're not exactly the voice of reason around here. You're just of the belief that everyone is out to screw the players in a business in which the odds clearly favor the bookmaker. Get a clue dude and take some smart pills.Comment -
HedgeHogSBR Posting Legend
- 09-11-07
- 10128
#159This situation deserves to be on "Breaking News".Comment -
bluelionSBR Rookie
- 05-15-10
- 17
#160no they are not a sinking ship if they are buying other companys who need help.Comment -
Raleigh77Restricted User
- 12-28-09
- 320
#161they are having processor problems, they are slow paying people right now, but they have money and will pay, books slow pay all the time it happens, fast pays are the exception off shore these days.Comment -
onthemoneySBR Rookie
- 09-15-09
- 5
#162do you not recieve private message sir?Comment -
midnight777Restricted User
- 09-10-09
- 504
#164i can wait to get 850 via moneygram in 3 days... there is no excuse taking longer than 3 days...Comment -
Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
- 12-14-05
- 13764
#165They are not a sinking ship, but there isn't enough attention to detail at this book.
Kinda reminds me of SBR. The old SBR would have explained the differences between Betphoenix and Wagerchief long ago. The new and not-so-improved SBR leaves everybody guessing. About just about everything.
Is SBR a sinking ship? Nah. Priorities shift.Comment -
John DoughSBR MVP
- 09-21-05
- 1785
#166They are not a sinking ship, but there isn't enough attention to detail at this book.
Kinda reminds me of SBR. The old SBR would have explained the differences between Betphoenix and Wagerchief long ago. The new and not-so-improved SBR leaves everybody guessing. About just about everything.
Is SBR a sinking ship? Nah. Priorities shift.Comment -
JoeVigSBR Wise Guy
- 01-11-08
- 772
#167DH is on the money here.Comment -
Dark HorseSBR Posting Legend
- 12-14-05
- 13764
#168The lack of attention to detail is quite serious, because it can pop up in so many different places. Example. Old BP menu doesn't include WNBA... A stupid oversight, but ok. So new interface. WNBA included. But this interface doesn't work on Opera. Fine. So switch to Firefox. But then new interface doesn't accept password confirmation of wager. Gave it about ten tries before giving up. One thing after another. That's the theme when attention to detail is lacking.
I was cautious about trying out BP, and considered this a test year. I think it's safe to say now that I will not step it up to a more serious level at this book. The door was wide open for them to join the elite books, and they missed by a mile. The saddest thing in the world is unrealized potential. Unfortunately, this has to carry over to Wagerchief (for me), even though they seem to be a well run operation.Comment -
HedgeHogSBR Posting Legend
- 09-11-07
- 10128
#169To blow off this issue as a "priority" situation for BP is a disservice. You could make the same argument for Cascade. Once a top book, paying people on time was no longer a priority at some point. Soon thereafter, paying them period was not important to Cascade. Probably best to take this matter seriously.Comment -
talntedSBR MVP
- 02-11-09
- 1664
#170very odd, good info here on betphoenix.Comment -
blix177Restricted User
- 09-20-08
- 1520
#171Taken my last $4k from BP to *******. Only took an hour. If anyone wondering why I am withdrawling is because I don't play baseball. Well I do, like one or 2 game a week on matchbook, and i don't need a 5 figure balance that takes 8 odds days per $4k request.Comment -
landers781SBR MVP
- 02-27-09
- 4774
#172Just wanted to let everyone know I got my first ** payout today...requested Thursday at 6pm estComment -
HedgeHogSBR Posting Legend
- 09-11-07
- 10128
#173Good to hear about the payouts! It's been a week since my payout request and the $$$ still sits in my account. I know others are worse off, but come on---process the payout already. At least then I know it's on its way.Comment -
t-boneSBR MVP
- 03-18-08
- 3732
#174
same here bro but i'm confident with this book, had the same problem with sportsbetting years ago and they straightened their shit out. patience is a virtue!Comment -
ucbearcats1027SBR Wise Guy
- 01-05-09
- 903
#175hated them since they screwed meComment
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