The one thing that's clearly unacceptable is to keep the dime and void the winnings... and shortly behind that is allowing people to bet before providing proper ID. So many disputes that should never exist.
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ID up front should be mandatory for places that routinely are doing "investigations" or "security checks". There should never be freerolls on the basis of documentation.Comment -
if the player request a payout the book can simply require an ID with matching information when he signed up. However he used fake information he shouldn't be allowed to withdraw anything.Comment -
This loophole can never be fully closed, unless gambling is legalized. Documentation upfront is not the solution in a non-legalized environment. Why would anyone want to give their personal info just to try a C book? In a non-legalized climate trust is established over time. It is not given upfront by the player, before he has any understanding of who he's dealing with. (see identity theft...)
It is ironic that republicans used precisely this argument - of underaged betting - to punctuate their case against internet gambling. By making it illegal, they have exacerbated that problem.Comment -
Refund the $1000 that was wagered when the account owner was udnerage. Investigate when the deposit was made that allowed him to win $500. If it was after he was of age, let him keep it, if not, void the winnings, close the account and let him withdraw his deposit.
Than if possible sue him.
EDIT: Actually I would give him his deposits back so the $1000 and than what ever the deposit was that allowed him to win the $500. Than void the won $500 and close the account. I would do this because as more and more people are becoming addicts and trying to sue the establishment that allowed them to gamble, he could loose this new deposit than try to sue saying he was underage with the initial deposit and should not have been allowed to deposit in the first place.Comment -
Did we just cross over into international law? lol
It remains a matter of trust between player and book. Legality is just a word, without an infrastructure of accountability. Jurisdictions? Gambling is legal in Australia. The legal system in Australia is so similar to the US that I have no trouble trusting it. If it were Nigerian law, I wouldn't go near it. Costa Rica, to my mind, lies somewhere between Australia and Nigeria. That doesn't mean I'm right. It just means that there is no way in the world that I will trust any upstart CR book with my personal documentation upfront.Comment -
account closed all moneys settled banned from this sportsbook ,seems fair to meComment -
talked to 5 dimes/betcris about it on livechat.....they said they would refund deposits before 18 honor everything else and keep playing.
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All bets stand except where your license in a country like Australia states that minor betting is illegal. Then you are forced to refund the $1000. You should close the account.Comment -
This is ridiculous. You instead want to be forced into giving documentation with the consequence of money being stolen, and allowing the book the loophole of saying insufficient documentation? I currently don't have a utility bill or bank statement. Why should I be free rolled? Because a book wants to rob me.
You routinely post poorly thought out apologist material for books doing the wrong thing.Comment -
I spent a lot of time on a seemingly easy dispute that quickly became very complicated. I took feedback from players, gaming commissions, and other sportsbooks. I discussed the matter at length with Bill Dozer, and we agreed on how this should be handled.
If an underage player fraudulently misrepresents his age so that he can play, there are two consequences:
1. All wagers made before his 18th birthday are VOIDABLE. Either the player or the book can recognize this (with proof) and cancel them. Presumably, books will verify age before the first payout.
2. All wagers made on or after his 18th birthday can be either honored or voidable, as long as the handling of these wagers is consistent. Books need to include a term or condition explaining how this will be handled if they do not pre-verify age (and almost no books do this).
If you lie about your age so you can illegally gamble, you should expect headaches and problems.Comment -
Put it all on Red!Comment
