BetPhoenix ceases transfers to/from Matchbook.

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  • RickySteve
    Restricted User
    • 01-31-06
    • 3415

    #1
    BetPhoenix ceases transfers to/from Matchbook.
    This situation would be an entertaining soap opera if the luxury of me having food/shelter wasn't hanging in the balance.

    I'm heading to Burger King to fill out an app...
  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #2
    Makes my poll more interesting now............
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    • robertg
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-02-09
      • 643

      #3
      so should this make me nervous about Matchbook or betphoenix? neither? or both?
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      • BigDaddy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-01-06
        • 8378

        #4
        good question

        my guess would be phoenix cant get funds to matchbook?

        BP only had 2 books they did transfers with anyways

        matchbook transfers to a lot more.
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        • Dark Horse
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-14-05
          • 13764

          #5
          Originally posted by robertg
          so should this make me nervous about Matchbook or betphoenix? neither? or both?
          Betphoenix is high and dry.

          Matchboat is waiting for Noah.
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          • RickySteve
            Restricted User
            • 01-31-06
            • 3415

            #6
            Originally posted by BigDaddy
            good question

            my guess would be phoenix cant get funds to matchbook?

            BP only had 2 books they did transfers with anyways

            matchbook transfers to a lot more.
            No, BP has no trouble getting them money. In fact they completed a transfer to MB for me earlier today (their last one?). MB's balance sheet is rotten so I assume BP is uncomfortable increasing their MB liability in case the music stops.
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            • BigDaddy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-01-06
              • 8378

              #7
              Originally posted by RickySteve
              No, BP has no trouble getting them money. In fact they completed a transfer to MB for me earlier today (their last one?). MB's balance sheet is rotten so I assume BP is uncomfortable increasing their MB liability in case the music stops.
              i guessed wrong.


              thanks for the info
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              • tblues2005
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-30-06
                • 9235

                #8
                This is not good news for Matchbook.
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                • Pareto
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-10-07
                  • 1058

                  #9
                  If Betphoenix is creating an exchange then it would be in their interest that Matchbook went under.

                  And stopping transfers with them at a time when all this speculation is going on, is certainly not going to help Matchbook.
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                  • coldhardfacts
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-19-07
                    • 717

                    #10
                    All I know is whenever I've requested any transfer to or from Matchbook there's never been a delay or problem on their end.

                    The same cannot be said for BP.
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                    • tltaylor89
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-19-09
                      • 19610

                      #11
                      I wonder if this has anything to do with them having an exchange now
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                      • coldhardfacts
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-19-07
                        • 717

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tltaylor89
                        I wonder if this has anything to do with them having an exchange now
                        They have an exchange now??
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                        • tltaylor89
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-19-09
                          • 19610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by coldhardfacts

                          They have an exchange now??
                          Its in the works just like their poker system is in the works last news I heard was from the CEO saying it was in the testing stages
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                          • coldhardfacts
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-19-07
                            • 717

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tltaylor89
                            Its in the works just like their poker system is in the works last news I heard was from the CEO saying it was in the testing stages
                            Will it replace or their sportsbook or just supplement it?
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                            • tltaylor89
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-19-09
                              • 19610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by coldhardfacts

                              Will it replace or their sportsbook or just supplement it?
                              It will be an addition just like Bookmakers exchange
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                              • Doug
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 6324

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tltaylor89
                                It will be an addition just like Bookmakers exchange
                                This suggests BP doesn;t trust MB.
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                                • Climate
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-22-07
                                  • 345

                                  #17
                                  People are scared shitless about Matchbook, but as of today there have been 0 slowpay reports. I know WSEX situation is not great, but MB has paid right on time without exception so far.
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                                  • DoubleEM
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-15-09
                                    • 241

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by tltaylor89
                                    It will be an addition just like Bookmakers exchange
                                    Bookmaker has an exchange? I've never seen that advertised on their site. Do I need to sign up & log in to see this or do they have a different address for the exchange?
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                                    • cobra_king
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-07-06
                                      • 2491

                                      #19
                                      betmaker.com
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                                      • tltaylor89
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-19-09
                                        • 19610

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cobra_king
                                        betmaker.com
                                        I heard the markets are horrible their
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                                        • DoubleEM
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-15-09
                                          • 241

                                          #21
                                          Oh ok, i didn't know they were in the same family.

                                          Their commissions are terrible compared to Matchbook so that would probably be why.
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                                          • sdtrader
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 01-23-09
                                            • 536

                                            #22
                                            Their fees are high and they have limited withdrawl options.
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                                            • 1st and Ten
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-13-09
                                              • 5131

                                              #23
                                              BetPhoenix told me they accept and receive transfers from BetFirstClass. That's all I needed to know to decide not to play with them
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                                              • Climate
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 01-22-07
                                                • 345

                                                #24
                                                Betmaker's commission structure is a little too complicated and way too high. The discount for volume makes good sense, however, the commission is way too high.

                                                If their commission was comparable to Matchbook, they'd own the market and make fortune. Then build on the model, offer parlays, props and other stuff.
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                                                • HedgeHog
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                  • 10128

                                                  #25
                                                  BetPhoenix is now doing transfers with Youwager, and they plan to add others. So BP dropping MB from their transfer list tells me that they no longer trust MB's viability.
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                                                  • durito
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                    • 13173

                                                    #26
                                                    Matchbook still transfers with bookmaker, greek, and pinny. And at least as of this week, those transfers are happening very fast.
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                                                    • Johnny 55
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 05-16-09
                                                      • 1079

                                                      #27
                                                      Matchbook, please be okay. I cant live without you.
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                                                      • Fishhead
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 08-11-05
                                                        • 40179

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by hedgehog
                                                        betphoenix is now doing transfers with youwager, and they plan to add others. So bp dropping mb from their transfer list tells me that they no longer trust mb's viability.


                                                        this actually just sent up a red flag for me on betphoenix........thanks for the info.
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                                                        • trixtrix
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 04-13-06
                                                          • 1897

                                                          #29
                                                          maybe this is simply b/c phoenix is more interested in associating themselves w/ BFC and youwager type of players instead of match/cris type of players.. doesn't bode well for the pros either way tho
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                                                          • HedgeHog
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-11-07
                                                            • 10128

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by durito
                                                            Matchbook still transfers with bookmaker, greek, and pinny. And at least as of this week, those transfers are happening very fast.
                                                            MB used to transfer with all the Cris Books, but now won't do so with DSI. Curious as what transpired between DSI and MB--which one decided to end the relationship?
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                                                            • Santo
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-08-05
                                                              • 2957

                                                              #31
                                                              I believe I read somewhere that DSI and Phoenix have some common ownership...
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                                                              • username474
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 01-09-09
                                                                • 480

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by robertg
                                                                so should this make me nervous about Matchbook or betphoenix? neither? or both?
                                                                I would say Phoenix without question. Matchbook's risk and overhead is nothing compared to Phoenix. One company lets you make 20k withdrawal via Neteller per 7 days. And no max on book to book transfers. The other company only lets the majority of it's players withdrawal 4k per 7 days by any method. Where would you rather have your money?
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                                                                • Fishhead
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                                  • 40179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by username474
                                                                  I would say Phoenix without question. Matchbook's risk and overhead is nothing compared to Phoenix. One company lets you make 20k withdrawal via Neteller per 7 days. And no max on book to book transfers. The other company only lets the majority of it's players withdrawal 4k per 7 days by any method. Where would you rather have your money?


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                                                                  • davidchong
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-10-06
                                                                    • 1806

                                                                    #34
                                                                    there fees on withdrawls at betmaker exchange??
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                                                                    • aceking
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-07-05
                                                                      • 4782

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Johnny 55
                                                                      Matchbook, please be okay. I cant live without you.
                                                                      they are going downhill ...
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