lol, good try shill http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...web-bonus.html
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Trix, regarding OSGA. The greek has a section on their homepage regarding being endorsed by OSGA. Either all forums are shady for the most part or if this OSGA was shady why would the Greek put this on their homepage?
Eyeball and I sure as hell don't get along and I don't think he likes wagerweb. I think what he was agreeing to was the fact that basically the same set of circumstances would be ruled differently for a sponsored book here.
Again, what I'm saying has nothing to do with your case, just a history of why WW doesn't like SBR.
I don't know if you are going the OSGA route but if the Greek has them on their home page how shady could this place be?Comment -
Hell if I was gonna steal 11k from someone, an additional $1,700 probably doesn't make much difference.
That email is ridiculous, what a piece of shit.Comment -
He is pissed sbr usually ****s him I take it. I was once told by an outside source that wagerwebsucks told sbr that if they got him his money he would give them some. Funny how basically the entire staff sided with a cheater except Justin.
Whether it is true or not if you were the owner of a book how would you embrace this?
Every forum is shady. Thats just how it is. Yes, we can say sbr is an industry leader, but that doesn't exclude them from shadiness.Comment -
I always call it like I see it. That old dispute was a grey area, but I thought WW was in the right.
This time, they're just crooks.
We frequently get offers from players to pay us a percentage if we get them paid. We always refuse (but encourage players to post their experiences in the industry forum if they are particularly pleased with a result).Comment -
They ain;t the same as when they were Casablanca.Comment -
Robmpink AKA Charlie Adkins AKA Carlos Arias Jimenez he is one of the sales person in wagerweb offcourse he will try to depend wagerwebComment -
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i'm going to submit a complaint to OSGA within a week, since dan from wagerweb still refuse to communicate at all after they stole 9k+ then 2kish for a total of 11k+ from meComment -
Is OSGA really legit? How is wagerweb an OSGA elite book and a D on SBR? I wouldnt put to much faith in OSGA. From personal experience OSGA wouldnt even return my email about 6 months ago.Comment -
submitted the complaint to OSGA, dan said he is looking into the issue. having my finger crossed..Comment -
Osga
OSGA are crooks. This so called watchdog was started by a sportsbook. I read on TheRX BetonSports was involved. Genius marketing. Set up a sportsbook watchdog website to give the thumbs up to shady sportsbooks.
OSGA won't do shit for you.Comment -
its amazing to me that theres really no way to get your money beyond pressure of bad pressComment -
jim from osga has gotten back to me, with him acting as intermediary, so far dan has apparently seem agreeable to a partial settlement of some kind out of the 11k+ sum I had on my ww balance. our opinions do diverge on some of the "facts" presented so i will be following up w/ osga to share some of my opinions regarding the situation as well.
regardless, i would like to give out two SINCERE thank you notes: 1 to SBR and 1 to OSGA, for tirelessly working on my situation pro bono. without services like these, our punters will be up the sheet creek w/out a paddle. i dont think it's fair, esp to OSGA in this instance, to work for free to help someone and then get berated in the process. economics tells us value of time, ie any time jim or justin is spent working on my case could be used otherwise for leisure or profit. so i think i was wrong as well to question osga at first w/out even submitting the complaint. any critique/congratulation should be heaped only when the final solution is reached.
so i again thank justin and jim from the bottom of my heart
(author note: no one has forced me to write this post, nobody can force me to do anything i don't want to do, this is entirely of my free will)Comment -
Some regulatory body ruled in favor of Canbet when the pulled the same crap with canceling winning correlated parlays, but I can't remember the name of that regulatory body. The argument in that case was "most books don't take these bets so we think it's ok for Canbet to cancel them."
I suppose the one thing working in trixtrix's favor here, and something he's hopefully pointed out to the OSGA, is that WagerWeb's software was set up to specifically reject certain correlated parlays, and that things like -42 and ov51 weren't allowed, but perhaps -24 and ov51 were. Given that they were rejected certain correlated parlays, it seems awfully unfair to decide after the fact that they wanted to allow less of a degree of correlation after a guy beat them on those parlays.Comment -
chuck, i don't think you understand. my thanks were towards time/effort spent on my case for free by both osga and sbr, it's not for the end resolution. obv currently i'm not (doubtfully ever will be) happy w/ partial settlement.
but nobody can question both of them acted as intermediaries on my behalf. if someone asked you to perform a task for free, regardless of whether you completed the task, the fact that you were willing to spent your own effort working on it at all deserves to be noted. too often we take that other's people free efforts for granted.
just like i like to thank all the posters all this thread who has taken time out of their day and post here to support my cause.Comment -
Wagerweb is really a shit book. I have a friend playing there few years ago when the site was B+. now he already withdraw his whole balance since so many issues came out of that site.Comment -
Stay Away Folks!Comment -
they call me constantly with bonus offers, now I know whyComment -
they have called me before, asking for a deposit, but after reading this thread, i don't think so.Comment -
Not sure if this was mentioned here as well, but I read on another forum that Wagerweb actually accused trixtrix's account as belonging to Justin7. That's a new trick from a scam book!Comment -
I got a bonus offer from them maybe a week ago.Hadn't heard anything from them in many years. Had an account there from when they were still Casablanca.Haven't played there in years and don't plan to anytime soon.Comment -
lol!
i'm not sure who should be insulted here: me or justinComment -
to update the forum: wagerweb dan has broken off communication with me once again.. back in march i submitted my complaint to osga to arbitrate, it was decided that would make a partial payment. i disagreed then w/ certain OSGA decisions/wagerweb accusations they made, such as limit circumvention (playing 1st half parlay/ 2nd half parlay at max bets is considered limit circumvention by wagerweb). being given a warning on my prior play (i NEVER received a warning from them, and to date they could not produce an iota of proof regarding that "warning"). unspoken correlation rule violated, apparently the understanding is that any spread/total > 30% is considered by wagerweb, yet this is not enforced by a.) their rules posted and b.) their software.
regardless i'd like to thank osga for their efforts at trying to obtain some measure of payment for the player. after it was agreed that dan was ready to communicate w/ me in regards to the partial payment, i sent him an email which he quickly responded calling me a thief and said i was intentionally breaking the rules. i defended my innocence in the next email and was never heard from wagerweb againComment -
this is the last chain of emails between me and wagerweb, and ftr i still don't consider betting both sides of the game in parlays, or 1st half/2nd half parlays circumventing the limits:
Dan,
First thing, I don't believe I have ever circumvented limits, can you please provide me with proof that I did?
As far I was concerned, sportsbook review was an unbiased 3rd party. However, you feel that they're somehow biased, therefore I went to the OSGA as the arbitrating 3rd party due to your wishes.
In terms of my personal opinion on this subject, I feel there are 2 separate issues:
1.) In regards to parlay winnings, as I stated, I have never received a warning in regards to my parlay wagers (or my pleasers), therefore there was no way for me to know that I was violating your TOC. Had I received a warning, I would have stopped playing parlays immediately. You also said something wrong in regards to the pleasers, I am unsure which rule I broke there. All parlays are correlated to some degree, no parlays of two team or more can be considered absolutely uncorrelated. Since your system disallows highly correlated combination games, I naturally assumed that the games that was allowed by your system would be considered acceptable, since I was not told otherwise.
2.) In regards to my remaining sum after netting out the parlay winnings, I feel that it should rightfully belong to me since that was never in question. I had a balance of 5k when I started wagering in Sept and and made another redeposit of 2k in October. So I think those should be counted separately from the parlay winnings, and should be returned to me.
Other than that, please realize when I went to sbr initially I did not mention wagerweb by name, I only gave my personal info to Justin as a moderator so he can investigate this issue under the radar and try to resolve it privately. It was only after Wagerweb was being unresponsive that sbr went to the presses (at least that was what I was told).
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From: dan@wagerweb.com <dan@wagerweb.com>
Subject: RE: Withdraw from my account
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 6:45 PM
Trix,
Apparently you seem to still think you are in the wrong doing.... Wow after you took advantage of the flaw of the system and circumvented the limits you still claim you are right.
Please explain to me in plain English how you come up with that.
Yes finally you decided to go to a 3rd party after you were advised to do this 5 months ago since you felt that you had done right by going against the rules that Wagerweb has clearly stated on the rules page.
I would like to know why you feel that you are the party affected.Comment -
thanks i'll stay away.Comment -
F---, maybe EComment -
why aren't they an F... I don't get how tey can be anything other than an FComment
