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  • Robtheplumber
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    Abc islands not allowing withdrawls

    Hey all..

    New here..Hopefully I am in the correct forum..

    Anyways I am a canadian staying in the u.s for a while..was not able to join draftkings and other sites since all my I.d is canadian but living in the u.s.


    Anyways decided to try abc islands(jazz)..

    Deposited $1000 and cashed out $2600..no problem..

    Deposited another $1000 and won about $4000.

    Tried to withdrawl and basically they are saying I make bets like a sharp and not a recreational bettor and a bunch of other b.s.. so they refused my withdrawl and now lowered me to $1000 withdrawl per week..

    I'm a 50 year old plumber who reads "pickwise" or statsalt..I would have a hard time naming 2 or 3 players on any given basketball team😁

    Anyways..is this something the books do to eventually screw me out of my winnings?

    I'm guessing since it's offshore I'm cooked?

    Thank you for any replies

    Cheers

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by dr_seanathan
    If they don’t pay you after awhile you could try gambling the money out of the account play the opposite side for as low hold as possible at a trustworthy book and hope the bet loses at looselines/Jazz, wins at the good storybook and boom you got your money out. As long as you can still gamble it will cost you money in juice burned but you should be able to gamble the money out of the account and into a better account right?
    If you think the balance at the book is a bad risk to be paid. Then the value of the money there is not equal to the good money you are hedging with.

    Might make you feel better, but it's not really you having done anything. If you really can pick the right side, just pick the right side elsewhere. No point in losing at Jazz as well.

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  • dr_seanathan
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    Yes that’s true but you can decide your risk amount when you do it, as long as you think you can keep gambling some more at both places even if you run cold at the sharp book hot at the bad book, you have to be able to cover that shortfall and you need to be able to make bets at the bad book. Still do it 500 bucks at a time betting +300 at bad book vs -330 at good book and you can get some out some is better than none

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  • PunisherIND
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    Originally posted by dr_seanathan
    If they don’t pay you after awhile you could try gambling the money out of the account play the opposite side for as low hold as possible at a trustworthy book and hope the bet loses at looselines/Jazz, wins at the good storybook and boom you got your money out. As long as you can still gamble it will cost you money in juice burned but you should be able to gamble the money out of the account and into a better account right?
    its a good idea but can backfire royally if you end up winning more at LL/jazz

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  • dr_seanathan
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    Originally posted by PunisherIND
    they have lowered my limits and disabled props and novelty markets, but i can still gamble $500 on major markets. however, i dont see the point in continuing to wager at this book if i can only w/draw $1000 per 30 days.
    If they don’t pay you after awhile you could try gambling the money out of the account play the opposite side for as low hold as possible at a trustworthy book and hope the bet loses at looselines/Jazz, wins at the good storybook and boom you got your money out. As long as you can still gamble it will cost you money in juice burned but you should be able to gamble the money out of the account and into a better account right?

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  • PunisherIND
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    Originally posted by dr_seanathan
    Can you still gamble? What are your betting limits for big games at close like nba sides?
    they have lowered my limits and disabled props and novelty markets, but i can still gamble $500 on major markets. however, i dont see the point in continuing to wager at this book if i can only w/draw $1000 per 30 days.

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  • dr_seanathan
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    Can you still gamble? What are your betting limits for big games at close like nba sides?

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  • jgemma1
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    Day 11 and still waiting for a $1k (weekly limit) payout on jazz

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  • SirtySree
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    Originally posted by Optional
    "We can only afford losing bettors as we are broke"

    "Normal players are not payout limited." Only people who withdraw. It's our own made up word for "WE SLOW PAY ALL".



    Is it getting close to the time to consider banning this book here and posting warnings in response to any post? Appears like they are outa money as football season ends. Typical of how offshores end, or turn rouge.
    I think you're right. Time to ban them.

    Everyone who withdraws is considered non-recreational.

    I've gotten 5 successful withdraws ($5000) in the last 5 months.

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  • PunisherIND
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    Originally posted by dr_seanathan
    did you get your 1000?
    still pending!! live chat told me their policy is to prioritize recreational players, and that they estimate 15-20 business days for non-rec players. today would be the 19th or 20th business day, depending if you count the day of the withdrawal request.

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  • SpringHeelJack
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    They call CONSTANTLY. Rick or stick or whatever his name is constantly bugs "Let's make a deposit bonus bonus bonus" like it's a remix in my head. I cut ties with them and their sister sites.

    And they pay out SLOW and inflated their bettors numbers when asked about them. I really wanna join northbet but I can't get an invite

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  • dr_seanathan
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    Originally posted by PunisherIND
    jan 9th: requested 2500 payout (already cleared kyc, this was my 3rd lifetime payout request)

    jan 19th: payout rejected- reason: payout limit changed from 2500/week to 1000/week

    jan 20th: requested 1000 payout

    jan 30th: still pending
    did you get your 1000?

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  • dr_seanathan
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    @punisherIND did you get your 1000 out?
    Last edited by dr_seanathan; 02-12-25, 01:27 PM.

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  • offshoreplayer
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    I've been checking out a few different forums, and it looks like Jazz sold their operation and switched up the whole management team. I decided to give bet worldwide sports a shot with a small $100 deposit with no free play. I requested a small $150 payout, and they sent it over in about an hour and a half. I've been working with Mike, and he's been great, super on top of things and really transparent. I'm planning to do a $500 deposit next, so I’ll keep you all updated on how it goes.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by Tom R.
    I received answer from financial department: for PRO players, who place bets not just for fun, payout time - 20 business days and limit - 1000$
    "We can only afford losing bettors as we are broke"

    "Normal players are not payout limited." Only people who withdraw. It's our own made up word for "WE SLOW PAY ALL".



    Is it getting close to the time to consider banning this book here and posting warnings in response to any post? Appears like they are outa money as football season ends. Typical of how offshores end, or turn rouge.

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  • Tom R.
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    I received answer from financial department: for PRO players, who place bets not just for fun, payout time - 20 business days and limit - 1000$

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  • PunisherIND
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    jan 9th: requested 2500 payout (already cleared kyc, this was my 3rd lifetime payout request)

    jan 19th: payout rejected- reason: payout limit changed from 2500/week to 1000/week

    jan 20th: requested 1000 payout

    jan 30th: still pending

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  • GoochKing
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    I was limited to $2,500/payout a week. Withdrew close to $50,000 but took several months. Typically 7 days between each payout.

    They informed me that even though I completed the rollover I had to continue $5,000/week to get the $5,000 max payout.

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  • Ksherm
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    They love slow paying for no reason. Supposed to be able to get 2 payouts a week. Impossible when they pay once every 6 business days..

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  • captrobey
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    I will never deposit there again after they pulled a bait and switch on me . They even tried a month after the screwover to offer the same bonus they just had screwed me over on. They have tried getting me to deposit a few times and basically they can rot in hell .

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  • SirtySree
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    I'm hoping that if enough people call out their bs, they'll change withdraw limits back to the same for everyone.

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  • darthvader777
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    Originally posted by SirtySree
    I too am payout limited as someone else mentioned above.

    $1000/week with 10-15 business days to get paid and then have to wait a week to be able to make my next withdrawal so it's basically $1000/month.

    Currently waiting 3 weeks for my latest withdrawal and will take years to withdrawal my full balance.
    He's spot on. I'm in the same boat. Guess misery loves company. All the while, they make 4.5% on the balance...

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  • darthvader777
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    Originally posted by vampire assassin
    I know of one large winner who was limited to $500/week i withdrawals. It will take him several years to get his money.
    I was limited to $1K/wk withdrawals. However, it usually takes about a month between actual disbursements. It will indeed take me over a year to get it all out.

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  • shawnski
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    good hedge book for JazzSports?

    (first post here) I took a new customer promo with Jazz Sports. My goal was to lose out into a different book, but luck went the other way. I'm up to $3k and can't find any bets to hedge with to get through the rollover. Everything is over 2%. Are there any good books to hedge them with? And will they pay out when I'm done with this massive rollover?

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  • vampire assassin
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    I know of one large winner who was limited to $500/week i withdrawals. It will take him several years to get his money.

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  • Optional
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    Originally posted by darthvader777
    I have been payout-limited to $1000/payout, although "normal" players can withdraw up to $5000/week
    Starting to look like what they call "normal" players are those that don't ask for a withdraw. And everyone else is "payout limited".

    You know there is a widespread problem when the company makes up their own sanitized term for slow pay.

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  • SirtySree
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    Having the same issue myself.

    Anyone have any ideas what can be done? I can't get my balance out for years at this rate.

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  • stoicboy
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    jazzbet issues

    waiting over 2 weeks for a withdraw, and max withdraw 1k

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  • linebacker67
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    I received a payout today. It took 7 days to get a Bitcoin payout but I did get it.

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  • SirtySree
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    I too am payout limited as someone else mentioned above.

    $1000/week with 10-15 business days to get paid and then have to wait a week to be able to make my next withdrawal so it's basically $1000/month.

    Currently waiting 3 weeks for my latest withdrawal and will take years to withdrawal my full balance.

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  • linebacker67
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    Jazz family of books are slow pay books. Don’t play there because the frustration you will experience when trying to get paid is not worth it. I am now 7 days waiting on btc payout.

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  • SpringHeelJack
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    My experience with the "jazz " family is 1. Terrible site design like from the 2000's or something except for jazz sports. 2. Not really any incentive on bonuses....3. Semi rude cus service....mom and pop book but they do pay albeit sort of slow

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  • Chiefs83
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    Paid about 36 hours

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  • Chiefs83
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    Back up

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  • Chiefs83
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    Site isn’t working currently

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