You joined two days ago, have three posts, all of which are on this thread saying you are getting paid. I find that suspicous, especially considering there are dozens of people who are saying the complete opposite.
But hay, if you are, which i find unlikely, or unlikely to continue. Good luck to you.
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Hard to say, it's probably a combination of net profit, payout volume, and maybe wager types (certain types of plays like wong teasers can be seen as sharp). Possibly clv but i doubt jazz is that sophisticated.
If i were in your shoes I'd try to get my funds out of there before getting placed in 1k purgatoryLeave a comment:
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what differentiates the two? Has anyone figured it out? I’m a lousy gambler overall. Definitely nothing professional or strategic about me. I usually have a few too many drinks and then place some bets. No rhyme or reason. I’ve just been on an incredibly lucky streak.
if it were just winning, I think they would have limited me by now?
If i were in your shoes I'd try to get my funds out of there before getting placed in 1k purgatoryLeave a comment:
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what differentiates the two? Has anyone figured it out? I’m a lousy gambler overall. Definitely nothing professional or strategic about me. I usually have a few too many drinks and then place some bets. No rhyme or reason. I’ve just been on an incredibly lucky streak.
if it were just winning, I think they would have limited me by now?Leave a comment:
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BMR, TheRX, EOG good places to ask about that.Leave a comment:
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Which admin are you talking about? I don't believe they have a rating here since SBR switched focus to US books.Leave a comment:
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It's definitely an F right now. It's just a matter of sites updating the grade.Leave a comment:
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14 days still no pay.
The fact multiple people are getting to 30 days and needing to resubmit should be enough to drop this books rating to F.
can I ask admin what they need to get that done?Leave a comment:
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Yea from what I gather 1k payout limit means you are “non rec” and you’re not getting paid.
2.5k and higher limit means you are “rec” and will get paid for the time beingLeave a comment:
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How long have you been registered and playing there?
Perhaps you are newbie and have not been on the radar of the 'security' service and have not been marked as a pro player
But with such frequent requests for withdrawal of money and winnings, you will soon also end up in the common potLeave a comment:
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I just recently found this thread because my payouts slowed down a bit from Jazz (and I started googling reviews), but I’m still getting paid and they have been reasonable with me.
My situation is I deposited $800 in early February. Hit a really good (lucky) streak and have been pulling out money as I go. So far I’ve gotten $9000 in payouts so far. Originally it was every 2-3 days, but has since slowed down to once a week at $2500.
I’m still on a streak and playing there. I currently have $8k left in my account with a $2500 payout pending. It’s been about 4 days since that request. I got paid out $2500 last week so they’re still paying out for some.
it’s slower than I’d like but they have continued to pay me. Sucks to hear others aren’t having the same success. Hopefully they can work something out with everyone and find a solution. I’ve had a reasonable experience with them and appreciate them being up front with me on timelines. I realize I’m in the minority on that though.Leave a comment:
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I am then told that:
[21:20] Lola Lennon: Yes, I saw that you confirmed you had sent docs a while back, years ago
[21:20] Lola Lennon: I has asked the Security team to review because I saw a UK address.
[21:23] Lola Lennon: However, as a resident of the UK you should not have an account with the site. Unfortunately, the previous administration did not proceed with the necessary security protocols for UK accounts. However, we have a new management team that has been trying to correct many of the issues that have come up.
[21:24] Lola Lennon: What should have been done, once the UK location was confirmed, was close your account and refund/return your initial deposit.
[21:25] Lola Lennon: I checked your history and I show that we have paid out $1500 on top of your deposit total. Therefore you have received all your deposits back.
I replied:No, you are not getting away with this. When I signed up I asked you if you allow UK customers, I was told yes. I then made deposits and sent in documents. You happily accepted all my deposits. You can not come here 5 years later and say "sorry, we have changed management since. Only your deposits will be returned", and confiscate my 55,000 USD balance.
The conversation goes on:
[21:28] Lola Lennon: We will be closing the account officially. We regret this situation but the fact is that your account should have been closed. If you reside in the UK you can only gamble on sites licensed for UK services and that is not the case.
[21:28] me: I have done nothing wrong here.
[21:29] Lola Lennon: We know this is the last thing you want to hear, but we are currently fixing some issues that were not dealt with correctly. But truth of the matter is that we do not accept UK players.
[21:30] Lola Lennon: I know that, it was a problem created by the previous administration and this is why we need to start taking measures now.
[21:30] me: This will not be the end of this.
[21:30] Lola Lennon: We have returned all the deposit funds that were sent to us.
[21:31] Lola Lennon: We are proceeding and cancelling the account and invalidating all action in the account, as it should have been done from the start.
[21:32] Lola Lennon: That is the procedure when we close an account due to jurisdiction.
[21:33] Lola Lennon: We are sorry this has been the case, but the decision is final.
[21:33] Lola Lennon: I escalated to the security team and to the new management specifically and carefully reviewed your deposit and withdrawal total in order to determine if any funds were still owed.
[21:34] Lola Lennon: At the moment, the decision is final and access to the account will be removed.[21:35] Lola Lennon: At the moment, I will proceed and close the chat.
[21:37] Lola Lennon has left the conversation
I still have access to the account, but likely not for long. I have taken some screenshots, showing balance and history. Not sure what my options are here as I'm lost for words at the moment.
I think it's clear they're illiquid. It's unfortunate because they must have a huge player base and probably could have been bought out by a bigger fish (BOL, Bookmaker) and customers made whole if they were transparent earlier on but that ship may have sailed at this point.
It looks like they're basically just running it ponzi style at this point trying to max out in new customer and 'recreational' deposits. My prediction is that the site will go dark in 3-6 months and they will just exit scam. (I hope I'm wrong)Leave a comment:
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What is PPH biz?
Also I've emailed OSGA twice but no responses. Do they even still operate?Leave a comment:
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[21:24] Lola Lennon: What should have been done, once the UK location was confirmed, was close your account and refund/return your initial deposit.
[21:25] Lola Lennon: I checked your history and I show that we have paid out $1500 on top of your deposit total. Therefore you have received all your deposits back.
Anyone know the name of who this new management is supposed to be?Leave a comment:
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This is truly disgusting that they think this is going to fly. The bad thing they probably don't have $5500 left let alone 55k.
This makes me sick to my stomach for all parties involved. Offshore is dying a slow death this was a good book back in the early 2000s and 2010s.
Pretty sure these pos are more worried about there pph biz were they get paid to use the site then about the post up clients that actually gamble there.
How does OSGA and BMR have these scumbags rated anything other than an F? Not that any of there ratings really matter. Maybe when Bobby stops doing Ice Cream Vids he will realize they haven't paid for that rating in months.Leave a comment:
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Again as stated previously this book is an F since the old management left. Something needs to be done about this. PM me Caramba I will see if I can help. This is beyond stealing. LOL that BMR has them rated at a B?Leave a comment:
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These people have just pulled the ultimate shitbag move on me. Not that it probably matters as they are broke and it would be unlikely I would see my money anyway, but this is just to show they will try any angle to not have to pay out.
Let's rewind to the summer of 2020. I had heard of these guys having good bonus offers so I contacted them to hear more about their bonuses: turnover requirements etc. I also asked if they accept UK customers. I was assured they did and still have this chat transcript. I was happy with their conditions and went ahead with my first deposit.
Everything went well, I continued to make both deposits and withdrawals when needed. After a few months they asked me to send in documentation for verification purposes. I did. No issues.
Then as for others payment issues started a little over six months ago, the 2.5K twice per week payouts turned into 1k per week, then turned into 1k per 10-12 business days, then 1k per 15-20 business days and more recently paused. I hit some long odds at the US elections so my balance had gone up to nearly 60k before all these changes.
Since the payments have been put on hold I have asked them when we can expect payouts again, and I was sent an email about verification. I told them I sent them documents back in 2021, but would be happy to provide updated documentation if needed. I hear nothing about my payout question, so today I contact them via live chat
continued in next post.
Not looking good for the rest of us if they are going to come up with any excuses they can to scam anyone whose balance exceeds deposits.Leave a comment:
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Sounds like they are just coming up with any possible excuse not to pay people. Next they'll say people in the U.S can't play either and they'll just close any accounts of people they owe money to.Leave a comment:
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I am then told that:
[21:20] Lola Lennon: Yes, I saw that you confirmed you had sent docs a while back, years ago
[21:20] Lola Lennon: I has asked the Security team to review because I saw a UK address.
[21:23] Lola Lennon: However, as a resident of the UK you should not have an account with the site. Unfortunately, the previous administration did not proceed with the necessary security protocols for UK accounts. However, we have a new management team that has been trying to correct many of the issues that have come up.
[21:24] Lola Lennon: What should have been done, once the UK location was confirmed, was close your account and refund/return your initial deposit.
[21:25] Lola Lennon: I checked your history and I show that we have paid out $1500 on top of your deposit total. Therefore you have received all your deposits back.
I replied:No, you are not getting away with this. When I signed up I asked you if you allow UK customers, I was told yes. I then made deposits and sent in documents. You happily accepted all my deposits. You can not come here 5 years later and say "sorry, we have changed management since. Only your deposits will be returned", and confiscate my 55,000 USD balance.
The conversation goes on:
[21:28] Lola Lennon: We will be closing the account officially. We regret this situation but the fact is that your account should have been closed. If you reside in the UK you can only gamble on sites licensed for UK services and that is not the case.
[21:28] me: I have done nothing wrong here.
[21:29] Lola Lennon: We know this is the last thing you want to hear, but we are currently fixing some issues that were not dealt with correctly. But truth of the matter is that we do not accept UK players.
[21:30] Lola Lennon: I know that, it was a problem created by the previous administration and this is why we need to start taking measures now.
[21:30] me: This will not be the end of this.
[21:30] Lola Lennon: We have returned all the deposit funds that were sent to us.
[21:31] Lola Lennon: We are proceeding and cancelling the account and invalidating all action in the account, as it should have been done from the start.
[21:32] Lola Lennon: That is the procedure when we close an account due to jurisdiction.
[21:33] Lola Lennon: We are sorry this has been the case, but the decision is final.
[21:33] Lola Lennon: I escalated to the security team and to the new management specifically and carefully reviewed your deposit and withdrawal total in order to determine if any funds were still owed.
[21:34] Lola Lennon: At the moment, the decision is final and access to the account will be removed.[21:35] Lola Lennon: At the moment, I will proceed and close the chat.
[21:37] Lola Lennon has left the conversation
I still have access to the account, but likely not for long. I have taken some screenshots, showing balance and history. Not sure what my options are here as I'm lost for words at the moment.Leave a comment:
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These people have just pulled the ultimate shitbag move on me. Not that it probably matters as they are broke and it would be unlikely I would see my money anyway, but this is just to show they will try any angle to not have to pay out.
Let's rewind to the summer of 2020. I had heard of these guys having good bonus offers so I contacted them to hear more about their bonuses: turnover requirements etc. I also asked if they accept UK customers. I was assured they did and still have this chat transcript. I was happy with their conditions and went ahead with my first deposit.
Everything went well, I continued to make both deposits and withdrawals when needed. After a few months they asked me to send in documentation for verification purposes. I did. No issues.
Then as for others payment issues started a little over six months ago, the 2.5K twice per week payouts turned into 1k per week, then turned into 1k per 10-12 business days, then 1k per 15-20 business days and more recently paused. I hit some long odds at the US elections so my balance had gone up to nearly 60k before all these changes.
Since the payments have been put on hold I have asked them when we can expect payouts again, and I was sent an email about verification. I told them I sent them documents back in 2021, but would be happy to provide updated documentation if needed. I hear nothing about my payout question, so today I contact them via live chat
continued in next post.Leave a comment:
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Crossed 1 month now, no payouts. I'm gonna spread the non-pay over all forums until they pay .Leave a comment:
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When a book doesn't practice good risk management and is broke there isn't anyone that can help. Sad what's happened to this once solid book.Leave a comment:
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Check your request
My, after month (30 days), was cancelled
Please note that payouts for recreational players are currently being prioritized over professional players, which has contributed to the longer-than-usual processing time. This meant that your request was left pending and, because of a default set up on the cashier, the request expired after 30 days. At the moment, you will need to submit the request again. The team is aware of the issue and is notating the account in order to be placed in the same queue order as your original request.
Our team is actively working to resolve the issue and continue processing payouts as quickly as possible. We appreciate your patience, and if you have any questions, feel free to reach out.Leave a comment:
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I contacted this company but no response. Have you had any communication with them?Leave a comment:
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How does a sportsbook go broke? I thought running a gambling site was a full proof way to stay in business?Leave a comment:
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I've had the same message. "The Payouts for recreational players are currently being prioritized over professional players" is a convoluted way of saying "we are broke".Leave a comment:
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yes, received the templated response below. At least I got a “warm regards”
Hello Joseph,
Regarding your request for a withdrawal, The Payouts for recreational players are currently being prioritized over professional players, which has extended processing times. The team is aware of the situation and has noted your account to ensure it remains in the same queue order as your original request.
We apologize for the delay, Sir. The initial timeframe provided was based on standard processing times, but due to the current prioritization of recreational player payouts, some requests are taking longer than expected.
Should you have any questions or require any assistance, please do not hesitate to reach out to us. We are here to help.Warm regards,
Chad Torres.Leave a comment:
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