I do find it kind of funny that he thought he was teaching you something about parlays.
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agon
SBR High Roller
09-10-21
102
#37
Teaser is an option.where you can place bets from 2 different matches when you have more lines to choose from.Basically is betbuilder or edit bet when you choose 2 teams.Or if you place 2 teams bet at a betting site that has vast lines for a match like Marathonbet.
If you place the same bet at this sites that have bet builder or edit bet or at sites that have vast lines you won't get your stake refunded if one prediction wins and other gets voided (postponed) instead you will get paid x your stake + coefficient of the winning bet. Same thing if one selection wins and the other is a push you get paid not just stake returned.
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HedgeHog
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09-11-07
10128
#38
Originally posted by Optional
I agree with your statement. But that's not what Hedgehog says multiple times in every thread about this issue.
I've been through this too many times now with Hedgehog and as many times as he screams "free roll" like it's a clear cheat, I am going to come back and tell him again he is wrong and just being a stubborn and unfair asshole.
In the face of a logical explanation, he ignores facts and just goes straight to being emotional and repeats free roll again as an answer. As he has no real argument to support his emotional feeling about the bet. All he needs to say is that he does not like the rule, not that all the books are corrupt/cheating...
How can you agree with Mike's assessment of this situation and not mine? We basically said the same thing, except he called it an unfair situation and I call it a free roll. It's the same thing! I'll accept that I'm a "stubborn asshole" if you'll admit that you're a dumb fukk.
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Optional
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#39
Originally posted by agon
Teaser is an option.where you can place bets from 2 different matches when you have more lines to choose from.Basically is betbuilder or edit bet when you choose 2 teams.Or if you place 2 teams bet at a betting site that has vast lines for a match like Marathonbet.
If you place the same bet at this sites that have bet builder or edit bet or at sites that have vast lines you won't get your stake refunded if one prediction wins and other gets voided (postponed) instead you will get paid x your stake + coefficient of the winning bet. Same thing if one selection wins and the other is a push you get paid not just stake returned.
1) The point of this thread is that if 1 leg LOSES, should the 2 Leg Teaser be a void if the other leg is cancelled, as well as if it should pay better than 1.00 should the other leg win. By your logic regarding Parlays you would say it is definitely a loss if one leg loses, would you not? If so, you will find no one who understands what is going here that agrees with you. As your logic does not apply to fixed odds teasers.
2) You can often select your own rules for teasers at differing odds. You can choose if TIES win, push or lose some places.
3) US facing books also allow you to buy points to create a Parlay of the type you are talking about, and they grade them the same way as you are saying they are in Europe. Parlays are different to teasers as they use market odds.
4) If you Tease 2 teams from lines shaded on the other side, your odds will be markedly better than if you Parlay them.
How can you agree with Mike's assessment of this situation and not mine? We basically said the same thing, except he called it an unfair situation and I call it a free roll. It's the same thing! I'll accept that I'm a "stubborn asshole" if you'll admit that you're a dumb fukk.
I DGAF what you "admit" to or not.
You're wrong, and if you keep saying free roll every time this comes up I will say you're wrong again. That is all.
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DontTailMe
SBR MVP
03-24-19
2897
#41
Originally posted by agon
Teaser is an option.where you can place bets from 2 different matches when you have more lines to choose from.Basically is betbuilder or edit bet when you choose 2 teams.Or if you place 2 teams bet at a betting site that has vast lines for a match like Marathonbet.
If you place the same bet at this sites that have bet builder or edit bet or at sites that have vast lines you won't get your stake refunded if one prediction wins and other gets voided (postponed) instead you will get paid x your stake + coefficient of the winning bet. Same thing if one selection wins and the other is a push you get paid not just stake returned.
Please stop. We know what you're talking about. That's a parlay. A teaser is something completely different.
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agon
SBR High Roller
09-10-21
102
#42
Ok Don't tail me thnx for the advise wise man.Now go place 2 leg teaser and if one of your selection wins the other push or gets canceled/postponed just get your stake back.MEANWHILE I can/will place the same bet same lines and I will get paid if only 1 leg wins and the other gets canceled/ postponed/pushes even with better payout.
Ok Don't tail me thnx for the advise wise man.Now go place 2 leg teaser and if one of your selection wins the other push or gets canceled/postponed just get your stake back.MEANWHILE I can/will place the same bet same lines and I will get paid if only 1 leg wins and the other gets canceled/ postponed/pushes even with better payout.
I have no idea what your point is. You can bet parlays just everyone else here in the US and around the world. Congrats. All I'm trying to tell you is that any experience with them is irrelevant to this thread because teasers are different in more ways than you're describing here. Of course the payout is higher...they're riskier.
You have no idea.the payouts are even higher for the same selections at certain sites playing parlays than if you bet teasers which pays fixed odds schedule . And if you have a 2 leg teaser in the case of one push\canceled\ postponed leg and if the other leg is a win you just get your stake back at sites like that still have this rule. What optional and you are saying about teasers payouts being higher is not the case.
Yes you can have sites that can grade ties as wins.But that comes with worse odds and higher number of selections which gives the house same edge against players even bigger edge mathematically.
Since you have no idea keep placing 2 leg teasers at sites that have this rules and get rich.
You have no idea.the payouts are even higher for the same selections at certain sites playing parlays than if you bet teasers which pays fixed odds schedule . And if you have a 2 leg teaser in the case of one push\canceled\ postponed leg and if the other leg is a win you just get your stake back at sites like that still have this rule. What optional and you are saying about teasers payouts being higher is not the case.
Yes you can have sites that can grade ties as wins.But that comes with worse odds and higher number of selections which gives the house same edge against players even bigger edge mathematically.
Since you have no idea keep placing 2 leg teasers at sites that have this rules and get rich.
You made some great points. A teaser IS definitely a type of parlay, the difference being that you get a fixed number of points at fixed odds. The typical 2 team teaser gives 6 points to each side at -110 odds. Perhaps the best point you made is that you can often (not always) get better odds (and sometimes additional points) by making the same bet at places that offer alternate lines and making a parlay. Case in point 2 weeks ago, I liked NO -6 over the Jets, and wanted to hook them up with Mich +8.5 over GA. A standard $50 teaser would give me New Orleans Pick with Michigan +14.5 laying $55 to win $50. However I was able to parlay NO pick -231 with Mich +16.5 -237 (2 extra points) and lay $50 to win $51.87, a much better deal at BET105 (see bet below). Additionally, since N.O. is already a winner, I won't get screwed if the Mich/GA game is postponed or canceled as is the case with a 2 team teaser. Instead, I would win $21.65 should this occur ($50/2.31 = $$21.65). This is much better than just getting my stake back. Anyway, I appreciate your insight on this matter.
196085704-1Dec 11, 2021 9:10 am PSTParlay
$50.00
$51.87
G784397 - Football - New Orleans Saints vs New York Jets / Game / Winner (2 way) / New Orleans Saints -231 Football - Georgia vs Michigan / Game / Point spread / Michigan +16.5 -237
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DontTailMe
SBR MVP
03-24-19
2897
#46
Originally posted by agon
You have no idea.the payouts are even higher for the same selections at certain sites playing parlays than if you bet teasers which pays fixed odds schedule . And if you have a 2 leg teaser in the case of one push\canceled\ postponed leg and if the other leg is a win you just get your stake back at sites like that still have this rule. What optional and you are saying about teasers payouts being higher is not the case.
Yes you can have sites that can grade ties as wins.But that comes with worse odds and higher number of selections which gives the house same edge against players even bigger edge mathematically.
Since you have no idea keep placing 2 leg teasers at sites that have this rules and get rich.
Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by higher payout then. I assumed you meant playing the sides as-is, and not buying points, similar to what you get with a teaser. The former would be riskier, while the latter just bout equally risky.
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HedgeHog
SBR Posting Legend
09-11-07
10128
#47
Thread title should be changed in fairness to Heritage. Just substitute "Books" for "Heritage".
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Optional
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#48
Originally posted by HedgeHog
Thread title should be changed in fairness to Heritage. Just substitute "Books" for "Heritage".
What to?
Hedgehog and Agon display what complete ignoramuses' they are?
A bit rich for you of all people to suddenly care about fairness btw. Given your mission to insist books with this rule are cheats and have no ethical right to offer these rules. Despite HAVING to know you are wrong by now. Now that's what I call unfair.
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HedgeHog
SBR Posting Legend
09-11-07
10128
#49
Originally posted by Optional
What to?
Hedgehog and Agon display what complete ignoramuses' they are?
A bit rich for you of all people to suddenly care about fairness btw. Given your mission to insist books with this rule are cheats and have no ethical right to offer these rules. Despite HAVING to know you are wrong by now. Now that's what I call unfair.
Heritage should not be singled out as they are one of the best Books in fairly grading canceled games. As far as Agon, what's your problem with him? He actually provided a good solution to avoid being burned on 2 team teasers-by playing parlays with alternate lines instead. Your ignorance and arrogance in this thread is sickening.
Note: I bumped the thread on this topic from last year. Perhaps this one can be merged into that one.
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agon
SBR High Roller
09-10-21
102
#50
For example let say you want to make a teaser 2 leg bet on NHL starting now.
Cleveland-Toronto Raptors 2 AH -13
and Washington Wizard-Philadelphia 76ers AH 1 +8.
At a US faced bookie the payout card is 2.03 on decimal or American odd +103.
If you place the same bet at some Euro bookie you can get 2.22 on decimal or American odd +122.
For every single combination you make on every major sport using teaser.You can get better odds depending if you are able to access any of this sites that have alternative lines or edit bet option sites .Plus if one leg pushes/cancels/ postponed and the other wins you get your stake × the odd of the winning leg.
Teaser might have been a good option if you had no access to bookies with alternative lines.and you chose 0.5 lines.
But I don't find it fair to just get your stake back if one leg wins and the other ones gets postponed/ pushes/void.
So optional what you say that with teaser you get better odds ain't the case on majority of cases.
I also think that Heritage is highly reputable bookie with good odds.
But bookies already take higher juice if you bet on alternative lines so having this rules is excessive.
For me double bets with alternative lines are the best bets you can place.
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Optional
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#51
Originally posted by HedgeHog
Heritage should not be singled out
These threads should actually be good for Heritage.
The news gets spread that they chose to change this rule to what players want it to be.
But yes, the title is wrong. Will alter.
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HedgeHog
SBR Posting Legend
09-11-07
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#52
nm.
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