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  • flabrah5
    SBR MVP
    • 11-11-12
    • 1743

    #1
    Large balances and options
    Hey Gents & Ladies,

    So I stick with one book (I know many will say this is why I have this issue), but I guess it's a good problem to have.

    My balance is in the lower-mid 7-,figure range on a Sportsbook that is highly rated and treats me right over the years. I do trust them. That being said, I finally made my run. I've put in over $1M easily in the last 18-24 months and now sitting with almost 3x that.

    We've been having many conversations and the supervisors have become almost like great friends in a way (not sure if that's a tactic, but i truly feel a relationship there as they go to bat for me).

    The final verdict came back after a few wins on my side - that is, $25k max per day, $500k max per month.

    The reason is? The "processor takes a risk of being flagged for sending high amounts of crypto."

    I just hate this answer for many reasons, but mainly two: (1) they can receive as many times, whatever amounts they want with no issue and (2) cryptocurrency was exactly made for this reason (among otbers), but it's purely anonymous.

    To add: we negotiated a higher monthly limit 5 months ago when I told them I was considering spreading across multiple books in case this happened. They upped it and said "if and when that happens we will make it right - as in get a big chunk off quickly -no questions asked." But, it happened and they didn't hold their end when I did the entire time.

    I'm not sure if I'm looking for answers or just trying to vent, but would love to hear what others might have gone through or seen someone go through. My last ask was to get at least what I put on this past year over the course of a week, Supervisors said absolutely makes sense and would see what "rhey" could do, but the same response came that it would flag the processor. So now I'm sitting here doing more volume on payouts everyday.

    I'm happy to be in this situation no doubt, bc I finally can say I'm truly out on top, but it also took away the "big dream" factor of why I even do this, of if hitting a massive run and getting paid to treat yourself big. Looks like if I stopped now, it'd take almost 6 months to get it off. And I know they are hoping it's not there anymore, but with some very serious life situations I've gone through I'm more prepared than ever to have discipline to get this.

    I feel like I won getting them to raise the monthly limit 500%, but I really don't like the reason why because it makes zero sense, especially being committed there just trying to get a nice chunk off would have been more of a win in my book.

    I love investing in crypto and had wanted to also use this as a means on the recent dip, but it recovered.

    Any suggestions on what to do here because I'd prefer to not withdrawal and invest the initial half, but also don't want to take it off, sell It everyday, and keep it on an exchange.

    Hope yall are well and stay safe, thanks for your time and reading.

    BOL as always out there.
  • pologq
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-07-12
    • 19899

    #2
    i wish i had your problem and could relate. congrats on the awesome winning streak.
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    • flabrah5
      SBR MVP
      • 11-11-12
      • 1743

      #3
      Originally posted by pologq
      i wish i had your problem and could relate. congrats on the awesome winning streak.
      Thanks man. Finally happened. A LOT of luck. Finally on the right end of the buzzer beaters, FT misses, etc. Also truly laid alot of +250 to +400 lines and hit. Taking faves and the juice has been absent in this one.

      Gl to you. Stay safe.
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      • PD77
        SBR MVP
        • 12-11-09
        • 2380

        #4
        Congrats on the amazing win streak bro. It’s sounds like you have a good relationship with Bookmaker but make no mistake, they want that money to stay in their hands. If they’ve pissed you off enough with the withdrawal limits then stop playing there and start the 6 month withdrawal process. Maybe they’ll get tired of the daily withdrawals and start working with you. In the mean time, you can deposit elsewhere and continue your run. That’s serious money, enough to put some books out of business and more than most people make in a lifetime. If you like investing in Bitcoin, I’d start withdrawing and watch BTC keep going up because I think that’s where it’s headed. Good luck whatever you do and again, congrats. Amazing story.
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        • littlekona
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-19-15
          • 5242

          #5
          Nice..
          Seems the book has lived up to its high ratings by accommodating you. Seems more then fair to me. Its not like they are banks or own the processors. This should of been negotiated priior to such huge deposits i think
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          • goduke
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-17-10
            • 11580

            #6
            Yeah I think the book is more then fair. Can guarantee no other book would pay you this at this rate. 25k a day is more than enough in my opinion.
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            • ace7550
              SBR MVP
              • 05-08-15
              • 3729

              #7
              I don't know where you live but if this is a true story I think a savvy person would not pull it all out in the same year for tax reasons. You pull all that out in 2021 you'll have to pay capital gains on 3 million. Bookmaker's not going anywhere. Take it out over a couple years.
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              • flabrah5
                SBR MVP
                • 11-11-12
                • 1743

                #8
                Originally posted by littlekona
                Nice..
                Seems the book has lived up to its high ratings by accommodating you. Seems more then fair to me. Its not like they are banks or own the processors. This should of been negotiated priior to such huge deposits i think
                I do agree they treat me right. I did mention though before I was going to go heavy November 2020, they did say they'd accommodate a big chunk (we said 50% at the tjme). They've been amazing just disappointed about this aspect because I thought it was possible and turned to be a huge letdown.

                Great point on it not being them, they've been amazing A+++. Processors just seem to lie. "Flah for crypto amounts." They'll take Unlimited when it comes to deposits ha.

                A+++ on this book though. The team is amazing and truly feels like they want you to win.

                Thanks for the time and input. BOL to you.
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                • flabrah5
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-11-12
                  • 1743

                  #9
                  Originally posted by goduke
                  Yeah I think the book is more then fair. Can guarantee no other book would pay you this at this rate. 25k a day is more than enough in my opinion.
                  I do get your point, but I've put $100k on a day about 3-4 times. Just would love to get the initial stuff back ya know. And it's more "flagging" to me sending 5 transactions over a week, rather than one IMO. But we all know crypto is anonymous and can't be flagged in this regard.

                  Thanks for the time and BOL to you.
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                  • flabrah5
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-11-12
                    • 1743

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ace7550
                    I don't know where you live but if this is a true story I think a savvy person would not pull it all out in the same year for tax reasons. You pull all that out in 2021 you'll have to pay capital gains on 3 million. Bookmaker's not going anywhere. Take it out over a couple years.
                    Very great point. One thing to note is 60%+ would stay in crypto for investment purposes.

                    There's no huge rush just disappointed can't get my initial back and I've deposited many more timed than that in a day.

                    Boommaker and their team is A+++, someone above made a great point about the processor being tbe real culprit.

                    Thanks and BOL to you.
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                    • ace7550
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-08-15
                      • 3729

                      #11
                      I will agree that if a sportsbook is willing to take a $100,000 in a day they should be willing to payout the same amount in a day.
                      You're lucky that money is with bookmaker. They are one of few that will actually payout that kind of money in a reasonable amount of time.
                      Imagine if you had it at Youwager (also A rated). You'd get $2,000 every 10 days. 3 million would take 15,000 days. That's about 40 years
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                      • Crusherrr
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-27-16
                        • 3652

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ace7550
                        I will agree that if a sportsbook is willing to take a $100,000 in a day they should be willing to payout the same amount in a day.
                        You're lucky that money is with bookmaker. They are one of few that will actually payout that kind of money in a reasonable amount of time.
                        Imagine if you had it at Youwager (also A rated). You'd get $2,000 every 10 days. 3 million would take 15,000 days. That's about 40 years
                        Youwager gives me $10,000 every 3 days I believe it is. So not quite 40 years, but definitely a long time. But he also would never be able to run a balance up that high. They shut me off after I win $5,000 in a session on their live dealer blackjack. Limits are $2,000 for spreads usually too.
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                        • ace7550
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-08-15
                          • 3729

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Crusherrr
                          Youwager gives me $10,000 every 3 days I believe it is. So not quite 40 years, but definitely a long time. But he also would never be able to run a balance up that high. They shut me off after I win $5,000 in a session on their live dealer blackjack. Limits are $2,000 for spreads usually too.
                          So why do Bookmaker and Youwager have almost the same rating? Seems like an insult to Bookmaker.
                          [IMG][/IMG]
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                          • Crusherrr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-27-16
                            • 3652

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ace7550
                            So why do Bookmaker and Youwager have almost the same rating? Seems like an insult to Bookmaker.
                            [IMG][/IMG]
                            Yeah. Mine are $10,000 1 every 3 days. I just requested $7,000 for today.
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                            • pologq
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-07-12
                              • 19899

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ace7550
                              So why do Bookmaker and Youwager have almost the same rating? Seems like an insult to Bookmaker.
                              [IMG][/IMG]
                              I am going to assume sponsorship.

                              They are not a bad book but not in the upper tier that we all know.
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                              • ace7550
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-08-15
                                • 3729

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pologq
                                I am going to assume sponsorship.

                                They are not a bad book but not in the upper tier that we all know.
                                That sums it up pretty well. They are no where near BOL and Bookmaker.
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                                • thagame24
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 08-23-07
                                  • 219

                                  #17
                                  Youwager blows. Good lines and promos while you win, but they slowly dicked me around for over a year before finally punting me....first, they reduced limits across the board and promo banned me. Then, they banned me from sim sports (needed something to do before sports came back). Then they made my payouts 2k every 10 days like ace. And now I'm booted after a small run in NBA. Icing on the cake? they wont even pay out my remaining balance in a lump sum. Major red flag...they're still paying me out on the 2k every 10 day schedule. Will take until April to be paid in full.
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                                  • thagame24
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 08-23-07
                                    • 219

                                    #18
                                    Good lines and promos ***until you win
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                                    • flabrah5
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-11-12
                                      • 1743

                                      #19
                                      Yea, I cant imagine doing anything like what Ive done and having on another book. BM is truly the best. I know Im upset about this timeframe regarding the once in a lifetime run, but they did increase that monthly rate 5X for me which Id have to imagine would not be possible anywhere else.

                                      I will continue to play, but going to be doing units that are strictly 1-2% of bankroll. The run including many large plays and was truly jumpstarted by an Osaka +1050 and Chardy +900 line. Those were the glue to this whole thing, having that in there, kept pressing, and both came out on top for huge gains.

                                      Its been fortunate and lucky, but I will make sure I dont do what Ive done before and give it back. I can actually finally say I am up overall in my life time of wagering (for now, fingers crossed I dont break the mental strength I feel now).

                                      BM also hasnt reduced much. Pre-game they have, but when the live lines come at certain points they pop to their normal 9k-15k levels. I can tell they really want me on NBA as I dont mess with that and always get crushed, but my options have doubled for temptation.

                                      GL the you all. Id truly suggest trading the promos and good lines as mentioned above, for security in case you do make that run which is always possible. I couldnt imagine having this on another site. Folks at BM are there, responsive, and cheering me on. Payouts have come in their normal 15min-2 hour time frames last 7 business day. No issues at all.

                                      Just been circling the BTC, ETH, LTC circle for now. Personally have a lot in LINK, but might move to that tomorrow.

                                      Thanks again for everyones time and input. We are in this together and sometimes need to be reminded of that and that its not just me in the world having an issue (which in this case Im happy to have, i shouldnt be complaining, just more venting at the fact I was promised larger chunks back in late 2020).

                                      Cheers
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                                      • Shifty
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-10-08
                                        • 558

                                        #20
                                        Congrats @flabrah5. Always good to hear about big winning streaks. Wishing you continued success!
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                                        • Doug tushyterror
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-03-12
                                          • 4172

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by flabrah5
                                          Yea, I cant imagine doing anything like what Ive done and having on another book. BM is truly the best. I know Im upset about this timeframe regarding the once in a lifetime run, but they did increase that monthly rate 5X for me which Id have to imagine would not be possible anywhere else.

                                          I will continue to play, but going to be doing units that are strictly 1-2% of bankroll. The run including many large plays and was truly jumpstarted by an Osaka +1050 and Chardy +900 line. Those were the glue to this whole thing, having that in there, kept pressing, and both came out on top for huge gains.

                                          Its been fortunate and lucky, but I will make sure I dont do what Ive done before and give it back. I can actually finally say I am up overall in my life time of wagering (for now, fingers crossed I dont break the mental strength I feel now).

                                          BM also hasnt reduced much. Pre-game they have, but when the live lines come at certain points they pop to their normal 9k-15k levels. I can tell they really want me on NBA as I dont mess with that and always get crushed, but my options have doubled for temptation.

                                          GL the you all. Id truly suggest trading the promos and good lines as mentioned above, for security in case you do make that run which is always possible. I couldnt imagine having this on another site. Folks at BM are there, responsive, and cheering me on. Payouts have come in their normal 15min-2 hour time frames last 7 business day. No issues at all.

                                          Just been circling the BTC, ETH, LTC circle for now. Personally have a lot in LINK, but might move to that tomorrow.

                                          Thanks again for everyones time and input. We are in this together and sometimes need to be reminded of that and that its not just me in the world having an issue (which in this case Im happy to have, i shouldnt be complaining, just more venting at the fact I was promised larger chunks back in late 2020).

                                          Cheers
                                          Amazing run!!! Just out of curiosity, was NO +1050 down 2 MPs 15-40 again Mugs & JC +900 down MPs in the TB against Cilic?
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                                          • lonegambler23
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-22-16
                                            • 9760

                                            #22
                                            wow crazy run man, dreamy. what are your max limits for tennis/basketball? how much is your unit size? did they make certain deals with u on that too?
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                                            • pimike
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 03-23-08
                                              • 37139

                                              #23
                                              Hope there is some left for the rest of us.

                                              Lol


                                              Good job!!

                                              Very impressive!
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                                              • goduke
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-17-10
                                                • 11580

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by flabrah5
                                                I do get your point, but I've put $100k on a day about 3-4 times. Just would love to get the initial stuff back ya know. And it's more "flagging" to me sending 5 transactions over a week, rather than one IMO. But we all know crypto is anonymous and can't be flagged in this regard.

                                                Thanks for the time and BOL to you.
                                                I'd much rather get flagged once for 25k and then be able to readjust. Imagine if you got flagged for the whole thing and your money got tied up?
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                                                • flabrah5
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-11-12
                                                  • 1743

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Doug tushyterror
                                                  Amazing run!!! Just out of curiosity, was NO +1050 down 2 MPs 15-40 again Mugs & JC +900 down MPs in the TB against Cilic?
                                                  Thanks man, and yup! You nailed NO match..other was Charly vs Humbert the other day. Those were what made this where it is. Wouldn't be close without them.
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                                                  • flabrah5
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-11-12
                                                    • 1743

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                                    wow crazy run man, dreamy. what are your max limits for tennis/basketball? how much is your unit size? did they make certain deals with u on that too?
                                                    Thanks man, I bet multiple tickets. Limits range from 3k-30k depending on what it is, but like the Osaka and Chardy lines I had 25+ tickets in. All 3ks live.

                                                    Tennis depends on stage but usually see 3-9k pregame. 3k live in set. Sometimes 12k between sets (love this, nailed Nishikori +189 going into 3rd vs De Minaur).

                                                    NBA Bball is 60k full game, 15k halves. 9k in between timeouts. This hasn't changed at all,.if they get a big chunk back it'll be because I messed with this.

                                                    NCAAB - $9k a half for major conferences, 30k a full game. 6k on spreads live, 3k on MLS.

                                                    I will add soccer and tennis were the two staples as soccer limits have consistently stayed at 15k live and odds don't change on multiple tickets. Tennis changes considerably.

                                                    I pressed hard at the beginning, betting 25% to 50% of bankroll. Once I got to a certain point I went to your classic 1 to 5% and been floating since with a few bad beats that would have me even higher, but reminders if I pressed it can go away just as quickly as it came.. It was a gamble and luck to get their based on bet sizes at the time (would deposit $5k and go all in on a tennis bet, etc), but eventually hit that strak and now just have to manage it appropriately.

                                                    Lastly, not one parlay. Haven't even thought about it. 80% of bets have been +money.
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                                                    • flabrah5
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-11-12
                                                      • 1743

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by goduke
                                                      I'd much rather get flagged once for 25k and then be able to readjust. Imagine if you got flagged for the whole thing and your money got tied up?
                                                      You have a point, but when your sending multiple deposits upwards of 6 figures they will take it all - $10, $100, $1k, $10k,, etc. However you want to do it. Why does receiving not give a reason to be flagged, but sending does? Cryptocurrency is completely anonymous. It goes both ways
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                                                      • pologq
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-07-12
                                                        • 19899

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by thagame24
                                                        Good lines and promos ***until you win
                                                        sad to hear this from multiple people
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61526

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by flabrah5

                                                          You have a point, but when your sending multiple deposits upwards of 6 figures they will take it all - $10, $100, $1k, $10k,, etc. However you want to do it. Why does receiving not give a reason to be flagged, but sending does? Cryptocurrency is completely anonymous. It goes both ways
                                                          Maybe buying more than X amount per day to do the payouts is part of the issue.

                                                          And it's not anonymous. There is a public ledger and more and more sophisticated analysis methods developed all the time. It would be very difficult for anyone to transact large amounts in and out on a daily basis without being noticed and tracked.
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                                                          • DroopyDog
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-03-16
                                                            • 1255

                                                            #30
                                                            You know where they dont limit withdrawals ?

                                                            Crypto books.


                                                            I like BM, but their best days are behind them.
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                                                            • KS1986
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 05-20-17
                                                              • 558

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by flabrah5
                                                              You have a point, but when your sending multiple deposits upwards of 6 figures they will take it all - $10, $100, $1k, $10k,, etc. However you want to do it. Why does receiving not give a reason to be flagged, but sending does? Cryptocurrency is completely anonymous. It goes both ways
                                                              Crypto is far from anonymous, but there are privacy coins that are close to it.
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                                                              • lonegambler23
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-22-16
                                                                • 9760

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by flabrah5
                                                                Thanks man, I bet multiple tickets. Limits range from 3k-30k depending on what it is, but like the Osaka and Chardy lines I had 25+ tickets in. All 3ks live.

                                                                Tennis depends on stage but usually see 3-9k pregame. 3k live in set. Sometimes 12k between sets (love this, nailed Nishikori +189 going into 3rd vs De Minaur).

                                                                NBA Bball is 60k full game, 15k halves. 9k in between timeouts. This hasn't changed at all,.if they get a big chunk back it'll be because I messed with this.

                                                                NCAAB - $9k a half for major conferences, 30k a full game. 6k on spreads live, 3k on MLS.

                                                                I will add soccer and tennis were the two staples as soccer limits have consistently stayed at 15k live and odds don't change on multiple tickets. Tennis changes considerably.

                                                                I pressed hard at the beginning, betting 25% to 50% of bankroll. Once I got to a certain point I went to your classic 1 to 5% and been floating since with a few bad beats that would have me even higher, but reminders if I pressed it can go away just as quickly as it came.. It was a gamble and luck to get their based on bet sizes at the time (would deposit $5k and go all in on a tennis bet, etc), but eventually hit that strak and now just have to manage it appropriately.

                                                                Lastly, not one parlay. Haven't even thought about it. 80% of bets have been +money.
                                                                thats the way to do it man. im a big tennis bettor too. im the same way i always bet bigger amts of my initial bankroll, its the only way to climb the ranks especially when hitting at a high clip. keep us posted, cheers!
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                                                                • BeatTheJerk
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-19-07
                                                                  • 31794

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by flabrah5
                                                                  Yea, I cant imagine doing anything like what Ive done and having on another book. BM is truly the best. I know Im upset about this timeframe regarding the once in a lifetime run, but they did increase that monthly rate 5X for me which Id have to imagine would not be possible anywhere else.

                                                                  I will continue to play, but going to be doing units that are strictly 1-2% of bankroll. The run including many large plays and was truly jumpstarted by an Osaka +1050 and Chardy +900 line. Those were the glue to this whole thing, having that in there, kept pressing, and both came out on top for huge gains.

                                                                  Its been fortunate and lucky, but I will make sure I dont do what Ive done before and give it back. I can actually finally say I am up overall in my life time of wagering (for now, fingers crossed I dont break the mental strength I feel now).

                                                                  BM also hasnt reduced much. Pre-game they have, but when the live lines come at certain points they pop to their normal 9k-15k levels. I can tell they really want me on NBA as I dont mess with that and always get crushed, but my options have doubled for temptation.

                                                                  GL the you all. Id truly suggest trading the promos and good lines as mentioned above, for security in case you do make that run which is always possible. I couldnt imagine having this on another site. Folks at BM are there, responsive, and cheering me on. Payouts have come in their normal 15min-2 hour time frames last 7 business day. No issues at all.

                                                                  Just been circling the BTC, ETH, LTC circle for now. Personally have a lot in LINK, but might move to that tomorrow.

                                                                  Thanks again for everyones time and input. We are in this together and sometimes need to be reminded of that and that its not just me in the world having an issue (which in this case Im happy to have, i shouldnt be complaining, just more venting at the fact I was promised larger chunks back in late 2020).

                                                                  Cheers
                                                                  How did you make all this money to invest a million dollars into sports betting ?
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                                                                  • flabrah5
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-11-12
                                                                    • 1743

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                                    Maybe buying more than X amount per day to do the payouts is part of the issue.

                                                                    And it's not anonymous. There is a public ledger and more and more sophisticated analysis methods developed all the time. It would be very difficult for anyone to transact large amounts in and out on a daily basis without being noticed and tracked.
                                                                    What constitutes a large amount? I'm taking out $25k per day 5 times a week first thing in the morning. Woupd you flag this over one, large transaction? Like buying a car for $100k - send him $10k a day for next 10 business days, or one time. I'd assume one time would be not as suspicious.
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                                                                    • Optional
                                                                      Administrator
                                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                                      • 61526

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by flabrah5

                                                                      What constitutes a large amount? I'm taking out $25k per day 5 times a week first thing in the morning. Woupd you flag this over one, large transaction? Like buying a car for $100k - send him $10k a day for next 10 business days, or one time. I'd assume one time would be not as suspicious.
                                                                      I mean the total of their withdrawals per day might be a large enough amount to be a problem for their processor in buying that amount. If they give you 500k maybe they cant pay 1000 other people that day for example.

                                                                      But I don't know, was just guessing.
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