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  • TonyPhizzle
    SBR Sharp
    • 08-30-17
    • 410

    #1
    Is 5dimes still a good book?
    I haven’t used them in years but just reloaded. Are they mainly a btc book only now? What’s the max payout on those if you’re btc exclusives
  • 5918mike
    SBR MVP
    • 04-16-14
    • 1885

    #2
    They were my #1 for years but slow BTC payouts and email verification for no damn reason pushed them down my list.
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    • gshock1
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-04-09
      • 5366

      #3
      solid odds and a ton of variety. They pay, but it can take anywhere between 2 - 4 days. I never had any issues with them. A+ in my opinion
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      • pologq
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-07-12
        • 19899

        #4
        no issues as well but got tired of the hoops to jump thru and wait for to get paid. mainly btc i think but take other methods. still a good book.
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        • ATC727
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-23-14
          • 762

          #5
          Forever to pay out. Cannot be A+ if players have to wait multiple days for payout.
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          • ace7550
            SBR MVP
            • 05-08-15
            • 3729

            #6
            Originally posted by ATC727
            Forever to pay out. Cannot be A+ if players have to wait multiple days for payout.
            This ^
            I'd give them an A-
            They also free roll their customers on btc deposits.
            Been around forever though and never heard of them stiffing anyone.
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            • juvunits
              SBR Sharp
              • 10-17-16
              • 367

              #7
              If you live in the 90s then it’s a good site. Their In-play on u playable and looks like the internet just came out
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              • hank_kingsley
                SBR High Roller
                • 07-08-20
                • 116

                #8
                I get the feeling they're going to start bleeding customers with the absurd btc payout waits. Too many other books are paying within a few hours and 5d is dragging it out for days.

                They're also at the bottom of the heap with unfriendly policies (in comparison to their competition at least) on how they're handling futures bets in the COVID-shortened seasons.

                I know I'll be pulling my business from them.
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                • pologq
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-07-12
                  • 19899

                  #9
                  the interface could definitely use some life to it. not a fan of the mobile platform. but still solid.

                  agreed the payout issue should knock them down to a B+. can't be major and hassle about paying bitcoin.
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                  • Shifty
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-10-08
                    • 558

                    #10
                    It has been discussed here before. They have BTC deposit issues where the player gets screwed. You always lose on deposits. You could break even if the BTC price is stable for 30-60 minutes.
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                    • HedgeHog
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-11-07
                      • 10128

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TonyPhizzle
                      I haven’t used them in years but just reloaded. Are they mainly a btc book only now? What’s the max payout on those if you’re btc exclusives
                      Yes, they are still a GOOD book, but they used to be an GREAT book. Their bitcoin system is pure shiit . They're trying to force everyone to be BTC exclusive in a process that skims depositors and slow pays withdrawers. Worse they're blaming Covid for the delays, when all other major Costa Rica books pay the same day (w/i hours in most cases). And if you refuse to be BTC exclusive, you'll be forced to pay a hefty 3% fee and wait even longer that the BTC exclusive clients....WTF is up with that? Is there any other A Books charging a fee and taking several days to send you via BTC..... I don't think so.

                      So why stay? Line offerings are awesome, it's like a betting buffet there. Also, you can get 1 free check, up to 3k, every month. Additional checks will cost you $50. BTW, their checks arrive quickly, typically in 2-3 business days. Kind of ironic that their checks arrive faster than their BTC payouts, but it is what it is.

                      Probably a B book now.
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                      • 5mike5
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 52006

                        #12
                        Yes
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                        • stevenash
                          Moderator
                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65565

                          #13
                          They're still my go to book.
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                          • 5918mike
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-16-14
                            • 1885

                            #14
                            I've been using Heritage and hadn't used 5d in awhile but decided to check it out again last night. The site and their live betting is horrible, worse than I remember.
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                            • PhoKing
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 07-04-16
                              • 247

                              #15
                              Ever since Tony got murdered 5d hasn't been the same a

                              What a shame... B-/C+ book at the moment
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                              • Microphone
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-08-08
                                • 2950

                                #16
                                No actually when Tony was alive it was a 1-3 day wait.

                                Having said that I like the stale interface. I don't need the flash that Bookmaker, BOL or Heritage have. And I don't need my money in 3 hours. I have the will power to wait 2 days and am not dependent on their money to pay my utilities. No has been stiffed from 5 Dimes from my recollection.
                                And most importantly I have a betting menu that is second to none. (NCAA hockey and baseball all season not just select games). And a whole bunch of other $hit the other solid major books don't offer.

                                Not sexy but solid.
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                                • 5918mike
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-16-14
                                  • 1885

                                  #17
                                  Live ultra is literally update-confirm-update-confirm-update-confirm for 30 minutes and nothing goes through. Brutal!
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                                  • acquavallo
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 03-16-18
                                    • 350

                                    #18
                                    Talking only about betting menu:
                                    Post-Tony \ US legalization \ Covid, they post a lot less alternate lines & props.
                                    And more and more, other places that do post those types, beat the 5D odds- and they're places with supposedly higher juice.
                                    5D do beat other books by a lot- as there are huge odds ranges offered- they're just not anymore the clear #1 in amount of alternate lines offered & + @ the best price almost always.

                                    All in all, they're still a necessary out- but more outs are required.
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61517

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Shifty
                                      It has been discussed here before. They have BTC deposit issues where the player gets screwed. You always lose on deposits. You could break even if the BTC price is stable for 30-60 minutes.
                                      I have always got what I deposited. Every time. And many times.

                                      If you CHOOSE to take the guaranteed rate and send the exact amount specified, then you have are paying for that guarantee in some form.


                                      Simply send a little more than the specified amount and you opt out of the guarantee rate and get paid what its worth on receipt.

                                      I have done this 100+ times and it worked that way every time. Many others have confirmed this. The 2 or 3 stubborn whiners who want to keep repeating this like there is nothing they can do simply refuse to accept that or help themselves.
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                                      • bubba
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-29-05
                                        • 2432

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        I have always got what I deposited. Every time. And many times.

                                        If you CHOOSE to take the guaranteed rate and send the exact amount specified, then you have are paying for that guarantee in some form.


                                        Simply send a little more than the specified amount and you opt out of the guarantee rate and get paid what its worth on receipt.

                                        I have done this 100+ times and it worked that way every time. Many others have confirmed this. The 2 or 3 stubborn whiners who want to keep repeating this like there is nothing they can do simply refuse to accept that or help themselves.
                                        2-3? hundred+? why not run up a pole and see what you get. I would be interested in seeing the results and hope you are right!
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61517

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bubba

                                          2-3? hundred+? why not run up a pole and see what you get. I would be interested in seeing the results and hope you are right!
                                          Just because you and Hedgehog are stubborn (or can't understand the repeated explanations from not only me but a lot of posters) does not make you right.

                                          Players don't get screwed. Players have an option to lock in current price for 15 mins (and accept any potential downside of that choice), or we can Choose to not use that guaranteed rate and take on the rate risk ourselves.


                                          I don't want to be rude to you, so i am explaining that slowly and clearly, for maybe the 30th time.

                                          Take a tip and don't repeat the same thing again Bubba. You already have black marks for your lies and misinformation here.
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                                          • HedgeHog
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-11-07
                                            • 10128

                                            #22
                                            How can anyone meet the 15 minute these days, especially when 5D often requires 6 or more confirmations? 5D controls when the transaction gets posted to your account, virtually guaranteeing the time limit expires. At that point, you will get the worse of the actual send time and 5D's manipulated receipt time. The system is dishonest by design.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61517

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                              How can anyone meet the 15 minute these days, especially when 5D often requires 6 or more confirmations? 5D controls when the transaction gets posted, virtually guaranteeing the time limit expires. At that point, you will get the worse of the actual send time and 5D's manipulated receipt time. The system is dishonest by design.
                                              Have you done what I and many others posters have suggested you should do? Add a little extra when you send? Choose not to take the 15 min guaranteed rate?

                                              Listen to yourself.. now you claim they manipulate receipt timers too???

                                              In what universe is is possible for ANYONE to change the data held on the public blockchain?

                                              That's the ridiculous level of your claims now.

                                              You think they screw you over on every deposit. You think they manipulate the blockchain record to lie to you about receive time.

                                              You claim you are forced to wait for more confirmations than just about every other 5Dimes user.


                                              Most people do not have your experience. Most people don't choose to keep taking the guaranteed rate and then complain that their choice should turn our differently.

                                              About time to move on to a book you are not convinced is totally corrupt and leave 5Dimes don't you thinkt?!

                                              It's you with the problem here Hedgehog, not them.
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61517

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                How can anyone meet the 15 minute these days
                                                You can do that by going here https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

                                                Look for the paragraph that says this;

                                                "Which fee should I use?
                                                The fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 214 satoshis/byte, shown in green at the top.
                                                For the median transaction size of 224 bytes, this results in a fee of 47,936 satoshis."


                                                Then add 20% to that number (so use about 250 satoshi/byte)

                                                And you will be included in the next block and will be picked up by a miner immediately once in.

                                                That should get you there in 15 mins 95% of the time.

                                                Right now the network is overloaded and no send will be confirmed within 15 mins. But this is one of those 5% of the time moments.
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                                                • HedgeHog
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                  • 10128

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                  You can do that by going here https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

                                                  Look for the paragraph that says this;

                                                  "Which fee should I use?
                                                  The fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 214 satoshis/byte, shown in green at the top.
                                                  For the median transaction size of 224 bytes, this results in a fee of 47,936 satoshis."


                                                  Then add 20% to that number (so use about 250 satoshi/byte)

                                                  And you will be included in the next block and will be picked up by a miner immediately once in.

                                                  That should get you there in 15 mins 95% of the time.

                                                  Right now the network is overloaded and no send will be confirmed within 15 mins. But this is one of those 5% of the time moments.
                                                  Even if you get your 1st confirmation in 15 minutes, 5D often requires 6 (my experience) before posting to your account. So the clock begins when you generate a BTC addy and ends when 5D is satisfied that it has enough confirmations. This is almost always after the 15 minutes expires, again my experience. That is what I'm saying is being manipulated. BTW, it is not my problem anymore since I refuse to participate in their BTC system due to my last experience:



                                                  Note: Thank you for your help in resolving that complaint.
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 61517

                                                    #26
                                                    They aren't perfect Hedgehog. I'd want to offer seamless instant bitcoin deposits if I was them too. I don't know why you need 6 confirmations. Maybe you sent with a low fee too often so they do that to you, just as an example possibility. But most users seem to not have a problem. Many have confirmed getting credited almost exactly what they expected to be credited same as I did a hundred times. Between you and maybe 3 or 4 other people max on here it's like a broken record acting like it's them being so grasping and greedy they want to screw everyone skimming deposits anyway they can. 5Dimes just don't have that business attitude IMHO. If they were that way would they boot people who are obviously cash cows for betting bad lines?
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                                                    • HomeRun35
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 05-09-20
                                                      • 182

                                                      #27
                                                      Yes the 2 day timeframe to pay out is annoying but 5dimes is a must have if you're trying to bet the best price available on the board. I also love the security option of only allowing certain IPs to log in. The risk of being hacked is essentially zero
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                                                      • DISTROYA
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-26-12
                                                        • 2911

                                                        #28
                                                        Me personally have mostly moved on, waiting for NBA futures bet to clear/cancel and then let them stick it in my ass one more time with their new 3% BTC payout fee and kiss them goodbye.
                                                        A truly titanic book withered-down to ridiculously horrific limits for anything NOT a side or total (and even those sometimes.)
                                                        Gotta love a book with $20 limits on player props. Used to be 250/500, or higher.
                                                        Loved their dynamic lines and high limits, absolutely no value or reason to play there anymore for me. Cant figure out why, gave them tons of action for a decade and a half, then they decided to chop the shit out of just about everything across the board.
                                                        Also gave tons of casino play. Way to treat your high rollers dipshits.
                                                        Their security authentication drives me CRAZY forget to turn it on during payout request, get sent back of the queue. Or leave it on and everytime you clear your cache or log-in from your phone, it doesnt recognize your IPN and makes you go through bunch of crap just to log-in.
                                                        Plenty of better books out there, thanks 4 listening.
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                                                        • aaronitout12
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 11-05-19
                                                          • 12

                                                          #29
                                                          Anyone have any experience with getting their limits raised at 5dimes? I know that’s probably a lol question and no way but these limits are ridiculous.

                                                          I’ve beat them for a lot of money on soft stuff and was understandably limited to $15 a play on props and whatnot.

                                                          However they also limited me to really small limits on stuff I didn’t even beat them on:

                                                          $250 NFL sides limits (cmon)
                                                          $100 MLB sides

                                                          These seem incredibly small for a book like this. It’s been a while since I’ve played there and wonder if there’s any shot they increase my limits if I came back.
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                                                          • grantingyou
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-05-10
                                                            • 624

                                                            #30
                                                            Post up business went downhill after Tony was murdered. Credit side of the business has not missed a beat.
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61517

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by aaronitout12
                                                              Anyone have any experience with getting their limits raised at 5dimes?
                                                              You can rebet the limit as many times as you like there on most markets.
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                                                              • Juri Cerez
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 05-15-20
                                                                • 6

                                                                #32
                                                                For me 5dimes is the worst bookie i ever used. And i bet on bookies they have here just a C or D rating. But how can 5dimes have a A+ rating? Very old and worst software. They make payout as hard as they can. My first payout was an endless story about verification email, verification call, verification that, that and that ... My second payout request is rejected for 3 times! For the reason: Rejected due to pending more than 48hrs
                                                                They should have a max. C or D Rating here.
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                                                                • PhoKing
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 07-04-16
                                                                  • 247

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Juri Cerez
                                                                  For me 5dimes is the worst bookie i ever used. And i bet on bookies they have here just a C or D rating. But how can 5dimes have a A+ rating? Very old and worst software. They make payout as hard as they can. My first payout was an endless story about verification email, verification call, verification that, that and that ... My second payout request is rejected for 3 times! For the reason: Rejected due to pending more than 48hrs
                                                                  They should have a max. C or D Rating here.
                                                                  cuz 5dimes pays sbr for the fake ass grade

                                                                  B- book imo
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                                                                  • DontTailMe
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-24-19
                                                                    • 2897

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Microphone
                                                                    No actually when Tony was alive it was a 1-3 day wait.

                                                                    Having said that I like the stale interface. I don't need the flash that Bookmaker, BOL or Heritage have. And I don't need my money in 3 hours. I have the will power to wait 2 days and am not dependent on their money to pay my utilities. No has been stiffed from 5 Dimes from my recollection.
                                                                    And most importantly I have a betting menu that is second to none. (NCAA hockey and baseball all season not just select games). And a whole bunch of other $hit the other solid major books don't offer.

                                                                    Not sexy but solid.
                                                                    I agree with you 100% on the bolded part. Ever notice that the 5Dimes site never has any bugs? It functions exactly the way I need it to and is very straightforward. No frills, but why should I care about that?
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                                                                    • ace7550
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-08-15
                                                                      • 3729

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DISTROYA
                                                                      Me personally have mostly moved on, waiting for NBA futures bet to clear/cancel and then let them stick it in my ass one more time with their new 3% BTC payout fee and kiss them goodbye.
                                                                      A truly titanic book withered-down to ridiculously horrific limits for anything NOT a side or total (and even those sometimes.)
                                                                      Gotta love a book with $20 limits on player props. Used to be 250/500, or higher.
                                                                      Loved their dynamic lines and high limits, absolutely no value or reason to play there anymore for me. Cant figure out why, gave them tons of action for a decade and a half, then they decided to chop the shit out of just about everything across the board.
                                                                      Also gave tons of casino play. Way to treat your high rollers dipshits.
                                                                      Their security authentication drives me CRAZY forget to turn it on during payout request, get sent back of the queue. Or leave it on and everytime you clear your cache or log-in from your phone, it doesnt recognize your IPN and makes you go through bunch of crap just to log-in.
                                                                      Plenty of better books out there, thanks 4 listening.
                                                                      They have a 3% BTC fee??? So If I pull 10k they are going to take $300 from it?
                                                                      When did this start?
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