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  • IMightBluff
    SBR Sharp
    • 12-19-12
    • 452

    #1
    Arbitrage Friendly Sportsbooks?
    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone knows of any arbitrage friendly sportsbooks other than Pinnacle and betting exchanges.

    I talked to support if BetFair Sportsbook (not the exchange) allows professional players / arbitrage bettors and they said yes. They also specifically stated that there would not be any restrictions on bet amounts. I can post screenshots if needed from Live Chat.

    I talked a number of sportsbooks and most of them said no such as Heritage, BetOnline, Bookmaker, 5Dimes ect.
    100 betpoints reward for names of some bookmakers that allow it.

    As soon as I deposit $1000 on Betfair, I can't place any bets on their sportsbook only betting exchange lol When I contacted support about this, they told me this was a restriction by betting management and they couldn't tell me why. I never used the site haha or ever placed a bet. I have the account fully verified as well.

    Also to be clear, I contacted support from another IP address through a friends computer to ask them about arbitrage betting. So I am kinda baffled, how my account got instant restricted from making a bet after my deposit haha
    (Anyone experience this on any sites?)

    If it is any relevancy, my account is registered in the Philippines. Maybe the deposit amount for the country I am in, was the alarm bell that triggered the account to be restricted.

    Anyway any help is greatly appreciated Pinnacle unfortunately does not serve Filipino players =/
  • craftbrewer
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-07-18
    • 181

    #2
    Since you are from the Philippines, don't you have an access to Asian books like maxbet, dafabet, singbet, sbobet, ISN, CMD etc through local agents/brokers?
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    • Alfa1234
      SBR MVP
      • 12-19-15
      • 2722

      #3
      Of the above ISN now allows arbitrage. All others have a risk of voiding bets and don't like sharp action anymore.

      You're out of luck, that's it I'm afraid in terms of bookies. There's Matchbook as an exchange which does not restrict but imposes a premium charge if your account is in too much profit.
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      • littlekona
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-19-15
        • 5241

        #4
        if your OK with BTC exclusive Fairlay offers Pinny Odds and does not care
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        • ouzoun
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-21-12
          • 322

          #5
          No bookmaker is arbitrage friendly. Pinnacle also.
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          • DISTROYA
            SBR MVP
            • 04-26-12
            • 2911

            #6
            No reputable book (besides some exchanges that have the sharp lines that you will be losing constantly to) will knowingly allow you the arb/scalp bets. Dont even ask.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 60720

              #7
              Originally posted by IMightBluff
              I talked to support if BetFair Sportsbook (not the exchange) allows professional players / arbitrage bettors and they said yes. They also specifically stated that there would not be any restrictions on bet amounts. I can post screenshots if needed from Live Chat.

              I would not take what CS said, or your screenshots of it, to mean anything to their risk management people.
              .
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              • littlekona
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-19-15
                • 5241

                #8
                Originally posted by DISTROYA
                No reputable book (besides some exchanges that have the sharp lines that you will be losing constantly to) will knowingly allow you the arb/scalp bets. Dont even ask.

                Fairlay does not care...Other books hit them too I have heard. Someone must of saw this and asked in the Troll box:


                Anonymous3932: Hello does Fairlay allow arbitrage punters


                Danshan11: of course


                Danshan11: you can arbitrage all day here

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                • trytrytry
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-13-06
                  • 23649

                  #9
                  [QUOTE=IMightBluff;29412561]Hello,

                  I was wondering if anyone knows of any arbitrage friendly sportsbooks other than Pinnacle and betting exchanges.

                  I talked to support if BetFair Sportsbook (not the exchange) allows professional players / arbitrage bettors and they said yes. They also specifically stated that there would not be any restrictions on bet amounts. I can post screenshots if needed from Live Chat.

                  I talked a number of sportsbooks and most of them said no such as Heritage, BetOnline, Bookmaker, 5Dimes ect.
                  100 betpoints reward for names of some bookmakers that allow it.
                  -------------

                  u can only give 2 points a day total. so dont help too many at once!

                  why not GO SBR PRO!
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                  • Sawyer
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-01-09
                    • 7708

                    #10
                    Don't waste your money. Make value betting instead. Much more profitable then arbitrage betting. Arbers (including me) are transferring millions of euros every year to asian/sharp books, by losing in sharp side. Every year. Period. I would earn x3 more money if I was making value betting. Therefore, I switched to value betting. I bet (I mean I was..fuk you korona virus) only the value bet in soft bookmaker. No need to cover sharp side, remember you're betting value anyway.

                    PS: Arbing makes sense only if your bankroll is short since a losing streak can wipe out your bankroll. You may be betting value and you may be guaranteed to win over long haul but remember, you're not prone to losing streaks.

                    About bookmakers, Betfair and Pinnacle are your best bets. Good luck!
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                    • DISTROYA
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-26-12
                      • 2911

                      #11
                      isnt fairlay an exchange Kona?
                      And you have to wager in BTC yes?
                      Last edited by DISTROYA; 04-27-20, 03:36 PM.
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                      • IMightBluff
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 12-19-12
                        • 452

                        #12
                        Originally posted by littlekona
                        if your OK with BTC exclusive Fairlay offers Pinny Odds and does not care
                        I don't see this site on https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...gs/#no-filters
                        How legit is this? Is it like nitrogen sports?
                        Originally posted by ouzoun
                        No bookmaker is arbitrage friendly. Pinnacle also.
                        But they offer Arb calculators and other information on how to arb using their book vs other bookmakers
                        Originally posted by DISTROYA
                        No reputable book (besides some exchanges that have the sharp lines that you will be losing constantly to) will knowingly allow you the arb/scalp bets. Dont even ask.
                        I was just worried like to be marked as winning player or something and having my account closed and funds seized.

                        Is this a common thing? Or do they just like let u cashout usually and reduce bet amounts
                        Originally posted by littlekona


                        Fairlay does not care...Other books hit them too I have heard. Someone must of saw this and asked in the Troll box:


                        Anonymous3932: Hello does Fairlay allow arbitrage punters


                        Danshan11: of course


                        Danshan11: you can arbitrage all day here

                        So... they don't allow winning players?
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                        • littlekona
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-19-15
                          • 5241

                          #13
                          Originally posted by IMightBluff
                          I don't see this site on https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...gs/#no-filters
                          How legit is this? Is it like nitrogen sports?

                          But they offer Arb calculators and other information on how to arb using their book vs other bookmakers

                          I was just worried like to be marked as winning player or something and having my account closed and funds seized.

                          Is this a common thing? Or do they just like let u cashout usually and reduce bet amounts

                          So... they don't allow winning players?

                          100% Legit. They pay out instant too visit site and ask around in Troll box if you have questions. They have some big players and have Pinny Odds and good limits with zero chance of getting limited and allow ARB too no problem....
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                          • Sawyer
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-01-09
                            • 7708

                            #14
                            Originally posted by littlekona
                            100% Legit. They pay out instant too visit site and ask around in Troll box if you have questions. They have some big players and have Pinny Odds and good limits with zero chance of getting limited and allow ARB too no problem....
                            I would be careful about these pinnacle-wannabe sites. Once there was a site called Gobetgo. They tried to copy Pinnacle's system and went bankrupt. Even Pinnacle is not the same old Pinnacle. They're still arber-friendly but not so friendly. Limits are ridicilious.

                            Finding a sharp bookmaker is not a problem. There's plenty around. You must worry about finding soft books.
                            Last edited by Sawyer; 04-28-20, 04:36 AM.
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                            • littlekona
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-19-15
                              • 5241

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sawyer
                              I would be careful about these pinnacle-wannabe sites. Once there was a site called Gobetgo. They tried to copy Pinnacle's system and went bankrupt. Even Pinnacle is not the same old Pinnacle. They're still arber-friendly but not so friendly. Limits are ridicilious.

                              Finding a sharp bookmaker is not a problem. There's plenty around. You must worry about finding soft books.
                              Fairlay is different since its an exchange style platform...check it out the site and the APP when its on and report what you think
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                              • Stumpage
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-21-05
                                • 2906

                                #16
                                OP, you're getting some excellent feedback here. Sadly this isn't the glory days of 2005 to 2010 when the problem was not having enough $$ to keep up with and take advantage of the multitude of daily arbs...
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                                • DISTROYA
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-26-12
                                  • 2911

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Stumpage
                                  OP, you're getting some excellent feedback here. Sadly this isn't the glory days of 2005 to 2010 when the problem was not having enough $$ to keep up with and take advantage of the multitude of daily arbs...
                                  To say the least
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                                  • ace7550
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-08-15
                                    • 3729

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Stumpage
                                    OP, you're getting some excellent feedback here. Sadly this isn't the glory days of 2005 to 2010 when the problem was not having enough $$ to keep up with and take advantage of the multitude of daily arbs...
                                    Seriously man. Even up to 2015 I could find them easily. Not so easy now. Been some good ones on table tennis recently though.
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                                    • jgarz2
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 08-08-19
                                      • 72

                                      #19
                                      Bookmaker.eu/Cris, BOL will not limit you
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                                      • DontTailMe
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-24-19
                                        • 2897

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jgarz2
                                        Bookmaker.eu/Cris, BOL will not limit you
                                        That depends on your definition. I can't say that they will reduce your max bet amount because I haven't personally seen that, but they will absolutely take away your ability to parlay.

                                        Edit: I almost forget, they will take away your ability to re-bet also. That is pretty darn close to being "limited", since with re-bet ability, accounts effectively have no limit.
                                        Last edited by DontTailMe; 04-28-20, 05:10 PM.
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                                        • galt88
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 08-20-19
                                          • 28

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jgarz2
                                          Bookmaker.eu/Cris, BOL will not limit you
                                          At Bookmaker depends if you make pre match arbing , they dont limit you regarding stakes, but they will cut the ods.
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                                          • Alfa1234
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-19-15
                                            • 2722

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jgarz2
                                            Bookmaker.eu/Cris, BOL will not limit you
                                            Yes they will, and they'll also close your account if they don't like your action.
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                                            • jgarz2
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 08-08-19
                                              • 72

                                              #23
                                              lol no they won't. BOL will limit you if you give them only prop action but anything pregame major markets, even 1halfs, you wont get limited-trust me
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                                              • Alfa1234
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-19-15
                                                • 2722

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jgarz2
                                                lol no they won't. BOL will limit you if you give them only prop action but anything pregame major markets, even 1halfs, you wont get limited-trust me
                                                Then please contact them on my behalf and have them reopen my account. My last bets were on the Champions league and NBA full time handicap markets. Thank you.
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                                                • Tom R.
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 08-17-13
                                                  • 128

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Alfa1234
                                                  Then please contact them on my behalf and have them reopen my account. My last bets were on the Champions league and NBA full time handicap markets. Thank you.
                                                  BOL closed your account or paid your money?
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                                                  • jgarz2
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 08-08-19
                                                    • 72

                                                    #26
                                                    Which book? send me your info..
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                                                    • DontTailMe
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-24-19
                                                      • 2897

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Alfa1234
                                                      Then please contact them on my behalf and have them reopen my account. My last bets were on the Champions league and NBA full time handicap markets. Thank you.
                                                      Oh, this is interesting. What exactly did they give you as a reason when they closed your account?
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                                                      • Sawyer
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-01-09
                                                        • 7708

                                                        #28
                                                        I miss old times of arbitrage. Books were very slow to react. There wasn't much arbers around those times..

                                                        Sports betting (and arbitrage business) getting more challenging every year. Once there were times when books were offering exactly 1/2 of the game total for 1st Half O/U bet, offering same odds for underdog ML and underdog to win 1st Quarter..There were many many golden eggs..
                                                        Last edited by Sawyer; 05-01-20, 02:59 AM.
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                                                        • stevex
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-02-10
                                                          • 5122

                                                          #29
                                                          Impossible if you're in the U.S. You're better off bonus hunting. Maybe things will change with the legalization of it in the U.S. but I doubt it.
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                                                          • gamblehappier
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 03-26-17
                                                            • 173

                                                            #30
                                                            I will say Pinnacle,but they are not as they used to be 5 years ago.
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                                                            • DISTROYA
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-26-12
                                                              • 2911

                                                              #31
                                                              Another batch of info for original poster since it seems you are a bit of a novice in arb terms; no one is going to tell you which books are arbable or have soft lines; thats work you have to do yourself, because it may endanger their position /affect their lines being changed and standardized if more people catch on to a soft book.
                                                              Pinnalce is always are arb friendly because they have the sharp lines and you will lose to them; its finding the nuggets (not many left) on the other side cross betting with soft lines.
                                                              You have to keep getting the soft lines without change
                                                              they cant ban or limit you
                                                              they have to re reputable and keep paying you because youre going to kill them.
                                                              these things just arent possible on a mid/grand scale anymore.
                                                              You will be flagged right away. Best to go after bonuses IMO as well.
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                                                              • Poisec
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-22-18
                                                                • 1215

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                                                if your OK with BTC exclusive Fairlay offers Pinny Odds and does not care
                                                                You would need two sportsbooks with a Bitcoin bankroll, Fairlay together with a fiat currency sportsbook doesn't make sense.
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                                                                • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-13-08
                                                                  • 5487

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sawyer
                                                                  I miss old times of arbitrage. Books were very slow to react. There wasn't much arbers around those times..
                                                                  I remember one book gave endless repeat $250 bonuses, with decent limits ($5k mlb) to run through the rollover ........ and had opinionated but low-juice lines so you could easily arb. Like a cash machine.
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                                                                  • asiagambler
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-23-17
                                                                    • 6831

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Most arbing these days must be done live which has its own set of challenges
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                                                                    • Stumpage
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-21-05
                                                                      • 2906

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                                                                      I remember one book gave endless repeat $250 bonuses, with decent limits ($5k mlb) to run through the rollover ........ and had opinionated but low-juice lines so you could easily arb. Like a cash machine.
                                                                      So true...Looking back it's hard to believe those days actually happened; And it went on for years. If I didn't make $175 minimum by the time I went to bed, I considered it a bad day...
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