Just got banned from 5Dimes for betting a "bad line". #1 rated sportsbook huh?!

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  • TommieGunshot
    SBR MVP
    • 03-27-12
    • 1604

    #106
    Originally posted by Optional
    5 obvious errors bet like this one is even more than I would expect 5Dimes to tolerate without doing something.

    Lots of people have been booted for just one there, if they saw it as an egregious attempt to profit from the error.

    They hate it.
    How does a sportsbook ever have five obvious errors for one bettor to take advantage of? And how could such a sportsbook maintain an A+ rating in anything other than a paid advertisement?
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    • pattymayo
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-19-09
      • 10221

      #107
      Why is 5dimes even hanging these obvious bad lines? That’s what I don’t get
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      • PD77
        SBR MVP
        • 12-11-09
        • 2380

        #108
        Originally posted by TommieGunshot
        How does a sportsbook ever have five obvious errors for one bettor to take advantage of? And how could such a sportsbook maintain an A+ rating in anything other than a paid advertisement?
        Originally posted by pattymayo
        Why is 5dimes even hanging these obvious bad lines? That’s what I don’t get
        I agree, I asked the same question back in post #22. I think the only way 5dimes finds these bad lines is after someone places a wager on them. It doesnt make sense.
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 61495

          #109
          I don't know. There seems to be a lot to me too. Maybe it's their technology that causes it.

          Their consistent hard line response to it for many years proves it is not intentional or easily solved from their end though. For me anyway.

          Also, maybe we notice it more there simply because they do treat it this way instead of just cancelling quietly?
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          • fried cheese
            SBR MVP
            • 09-17-13
            • 4461

            #110
            i bet it would be solved really quick if they were forced to honor the bets.
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            • TommieGunshot
              SBR MVP
              • 03-27-12
              • 1604

              #111
              Originally posted by Optional
              Their consistent hard line response to it for many years proves it is not intentional or easily solved from their end though. For me anyway.
              It doesn't matter whether it's easy or not. They have the ability to welch on any bet they make at any time for any reason. And still keep their A+ rating. They have no incentive to offer an honest product.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61495

                #112
                Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                It doesn't matter whether it's easy or not. They have the ability to welch on any bet they make at any time for any reason. And still keep their A+ rating. They have no incentive to offer an honest product.
                When they do start "welshing" on bets, let me know.


                As far as this incident, I don't see a thing wrong with cancelling this 500/1 bet personally.

                Do you?
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                • TommieGunshot
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-27-12
                  • 1604

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  When they do start "welshing" on bets, let me know.


                  As far as this incident, I don't see a thing wrong with cancelling this 500/1 bet personally.

                  Do you?
                  They cancelled three bets. From one player. Made on one morning. I do see that as indicative of a sportsbook having problems. Pretty sure most anyone who isn't paid off by the sportsbook would see it the same way.
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61495

                    #114
                    Originally posted by TommieGunshot

                    They cancelled three bets. From one player. Made on one morning. I do see that as indicative of a sportsbook having problems. Pretty sure most anyone who isn't paid off by the sportsbook would see it the same way.
                    Now you're just being a dick.

                    There has been a bunch of people in this thread who have said same as me about these bets. Is everyone paid off??
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                    • pretentiousGuy
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 09-13-18
                      • 136

                      #115
                      Should happen once in a blue moon. This is happening too frequently at some books. Should be input error, I can't imagine a programming bug is causing this (as someone who knows programming, that would be ridiculously incompetent). Either way it's really silly how this happens more than a couple times a years.
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                      • semibluff
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-12-16
                        • 1515

                        #116
                        Errors are almost certainly caused by a coding calculation input error rather than a direct input error on the individual Sportsbook page. For example the SBR Sportsbook posts odds for Bet365, which are accurate up until kickoff. Each individual Sportsbook page is given a coding page number. If the page used for displaying historical odds has an incorrect code number typed in as the base then it will display odds from the wrong page next to each outcome.

                        https://classic.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/nfl-football/money-line/

                        SBR NFL lines for Bet365 have been wrong, (post kickoff), for at least 11 weeks. It's a universal coding error for Bet365 lines rather than someone typing in the wrong line, every single time. It's not hard to imagine 5Dimes and other books occasionally having similar copy/paste issues where numbers are missing. When line-scraping missing numbers, (empty boxes), can result in numbers from other outcomes being put next to the wrong outcome. I'm not going to excuse books that make large numbers of errors but if people expect books to honour such errors then it'll take large numbers of staff to double-check everything which would result in less generous lines. Books would also slash limits to almost nothing until lines where verified and stable.
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                        • DontTailMe
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-24-19
                          • 2897

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Optional
                          I don't know. There seems to be a lot to me too. Maybe it's their technology that causes it.

                          Their consistent hard line response to it for many years proves it is not intentional or easily solved from their end though. For me anyway.

                          Also, maybe we notice it more there simply because they do treat it this way instead of just cancelling quietly?
                          Nah, in their minds, the problem is the dirty player, not them. This mentality creates an environment where getting everything 100% right isn't critical for them and leads to taking shortcuts in the interest of speed vs. quality. Less peer review / double-checking before posting lines. Stuff like that.
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                          • Okieirish
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-03-19
                            • 879

                            #118
                            Anybody that puts a line out and does not honor it is bush league. You would think somebody would be looking over the lines before they get posted. I can't imagine Las Vegas books would not honor anything they allowed you to bet. Unreal, they booted you for THEIR mistake !
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                            • Grumsi
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 09-30-14
                              • 66

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              KYC
                              AML
                              SoF
                              SoW


                              Terms you may grow to dread.

                              And I believe you are wrong about US sportsbooks not having rules about cancelling obvious errors like this one.
                              When all of you will start naming this correctly, obvious cheating, instead of obvious errors, then maybe books will stop trying to gain new customers with AGAIN obvious cheating with displaying a high non-existing odds (non-existing because those odds are not there to be honored and they know that when they display them). When books are doing this they will only gain from this and have nothing to lose, so that is of course nothing else than obvious criminal activity or plain cheating.

                              I can not believe some of you guys are making the player look bad for taking those odds, are you all people blinded? I am getting really frustrated over this, I can't believe such people like most of you who are defending books even exist, don't you have any logic/morale inprinted in you. Maybe only a few of us are blessed with it, well fine by me.

                              Obviously I am frustrated with how other people think, and in a long term that is not good for me, therefore I will just start to feel really good about myself, I am better than most of you all. Adios amigos!
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                              • Grumsi
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 09-30-14
                                • 66

                                #120
                                Originally posted by JumpoffJoeBeezy
                                I love how everybody gets on their high horse when it comes to these threads, like they are going to get brownie points by siding with the book. What's so hard about just cancelling the wager?

                                I have my own grievances with 5dimes, but they are hands down my favorite book. However, in this case, they simply aren't taking responsibility for their own mistake, and in turn blaming the bettor. Cancel the wager. Refund the money bet. Change the line to what it should be. Simple.
                                Sounds ok, but NO! Honor the bet, learn from mistake and put correct odds next time!
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                                • Grumsi
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 09-30-14
                                  • 66

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                  I never side with the books but OP bet on a bad line before and they warned him. Anyone that's been using offshores for a while knows if you make wagers on bad lines, it's an automatic ban after a warning. If other books are offering 50-1 and 5Dimes if offering 500-1, it's a bad fukking line. Use common sense and don't touch that shit. It's that simple.

                                  Did not bet on a bad line, he bet on a bookie's cheating odd to attract new players! Everyone should be betting those odds, everyone! Then maybe bookies will stop cheating with these odds.
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                                  • sportsguy04
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-21-08
                                    • 11885

                                    #122
                                    Disregard
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                                    • FADER5
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 01-04-15
                                      • 222

                                      #123
                                      What the hell are you supposed to do? You are offered a line, you take it. If it turns out you got a bad deal they won't let you cancel. They still seem to get to cancel if they like. What's the F'in problem? Screw those pussy punks. That's horrible. I'm with you. This is stupid. Are there any American thinking types with this book? Or all foreigners? Different values, sense of fairness, maybe enjoy penetrating with and hurting people for no good reason even more than Americans do. I'm sorry this happened to you.
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 51997

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by FADER5
                                        What the hell are you supposed to do? You are offered a line, you take it. If it turns out you got a bad deal they won't let you cancel. They still seem to get to cancel if they like. What's the F'in problem? Screw those pussy punks. That's horrible. I'm with you. This is stupid. Are there any American thinking types with this book? Or all foreigners? Different values, sense of fairness, maybe enjoy penetrating with and hurting people for no good reason even more than Americans do. I'm sorry this happened to you.
                                        They shouldnt bet it when they know damn well it's a bad line. Most players do know this and still try and do it. btw not saying you. And if u can't tell that, u prob shouldn't be gambling on the event anyways.
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                                        • pologq
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-07-12
                                          • 19899

                                          #125
                                          i would expect an A+ book to not have line issues like this, just saying what others might have said.

                                          there are sports out there where I would not know if the line was "bad". lets say i play around for the hell of it cause i like action. it's my fault they had a bad line? no way.

                                          now, if its a pattern in sports i normally bet where i bet bad lines, that is a different story.
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                                          • RedApples
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-02-18
                                            • 721

                                            #126
                                            lets be real. 5dimes is a joke of a book. a total clown show. but they are still accepting bets and paying out which is rare.

                                            OP took shots, got caught. no book has ever allowed or ever will allow taking shots. your bets will and should be cancelled, and if you have a rep for doing it then your action will be denied.
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                                            • Don_Omarion
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-23-15
                                              • 2635

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by RedApples
                                              lets be real. 5dimes is a joke of a book. a total clown show. but they are still accepting bets and paying out which is rare.

                                              OP took shots, got caught. no book has ever allowed or ever will allow taking shots. your bets will and should be cancelled, and if you have a rep for doing it then your action will be denied.
                                              ++++++1
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