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  • dlknfdslknfdlskn
    SBR Rookie
    • 04-17-19
    • 47

    #1
    SportsBetting.ag - Charles Barkley pick grading
    Did anyone bet this?

    NCAAM Props - March Madness - Charles Barkley Pick Auburn to Win in Sweet 16 - Yes -1500; No +900
    Notes: Must clearly make pick during pre game show

    I bet NO here. Charles did not make a pick during the show. He had a bunch of Auburn stuff on/around him, but at no point during the pregame show did he make an actual pick, or say anything about predicting Auburn to win the game. He's clearly an Auburn fan, but that has nothing to do with this bet.

    SportsBetting.ag is giving me the runaround. They graded this bet as a loss. They are telling me that because he didn't make a pick, it's a loss. In my opinion, the bet is technically a win: he picked no one, therefore he did not pick Auburn. However, I think because of the notes here (must clearly make pick), I'm never going to get them to grade it as a win.

    On no planet is a lack of a pick a loss though: that would mean that both YES and NO are losers for this bet, which is absurd. It should be voided. It is the exact same situation as a sporting event that is canceled: bets are voided.

    At this point they are claiming that it has been reviewed and their decision is final. I realize that in the sports betting world, I am SOL, but I wanted to know SBR's opinion on the matter.
  • SBR Forum
    Administrator
    • 12-02-06
    • 4559

    #2
    Can you please file a complaint so we can ask a manager to review? From what you've described, a no-action would seem like the fair settlement if all of the available options were in fact losers.
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    • DontTailMe
      SBR MVP
      • 03-24-19
      • 2897

      #3
      I made the same wager and it was also marked as a loss, which is obviously wrong. It should be a voided wager, at WORST. I haven't contacted them yet though because I've been busy with life. I'll call or email them today, but I'm afraid that I might also get the runaround based on your experience, and the fact that they've apparently made a "final" decision.
      Last edited by DontTailMe; 04-17-19, 01:36 PM.
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      • SBR Forum
        Administrator
        • 12-02-06
        • 4559

        #4
        Originally posted by DontTailMe
        I made the same wager and it was also marked as a loss, which is obviously wrong. It should be a voided wager, at WORST. I haven't contacted them yet though because I've been busy with life. I'll call or email them today, but I'm afraid that I might also get the runaround based on your experience, and the fact that they've apparently made a "final" decision.
        Welcome to SBR Forum.

        If there were only two sides listed, and no pick was made, it would be tough to argue that the no was a winner. Going into the wager with that even in mind highlights some of the issues and confusion with props like this. The no would only be a winner if Barkley picked a team other than Auburn during the pregame show.
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        • bubba
          SBR MVP
          • 09-29-05
          • 2432

          #5
          I had some super bowl props with this group of books that were graded wrong (especially 1 of them). no luck getting them changed. lesson learned, cannot be trusted to grade things properly

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          • DontTailMe
            SBR MVP
            • 03-24-19
            • 2897

            #6
            Originally posted by SBR Forum
            Welcome to SBR Forum.

            If there were only two sides listed, and no pick was made, it would be tough to argue that the no was a winner. Going into the wager with that even in mind highlights some of the issues and confusion with props like this. The no would only be a winner if Barkley picked a team other than Auburn during the pregame show.
            I'm fine with that. But we were given a LOSS, and OP has been told decision final. That's clearly wrong as well. Hopefully I get a better outcome when I contact them. I'll let you all know if I have any update.

            Thanks for the welcome
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            • dlknfdslknfdlskn
              SBR Rookie
              • 04-17-19
              • 47

              #7
              Originally posted by SBR Forum
              Welcome to SBR Forum.

              If there were only two sides listed, and no pick was made, it would be tough to argue that the no was a winner. Going into the wager with that even in mind highlights some of the issues and confusion with props like this. The no would only be a winner if Barkley picked a team other than Auburn during the pregame show.
              I do agree that the notes of "Must make pick" would make "NO" a void in this case, and not a winner.

              Honestly, the book should just create a more clear cut wager: Who will Barkley pick? Auburn/UK. If no pick made, no action. There, simple.

              As it was written, it is easily interpreted with NO as a win. Did he pick Auburn? No.
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              • dlknfdslknfdlskn
                SBR Rookie
                • 04-17-19
                • 47

                #8
                I pity whomever max bet YES on this. While I would call that a dumb bet, they might be out $750 because of an incorrect grade.
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                • dlknfdslknfdlskn
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 04-17-19
                  • 47

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bubba
                  I had some super bowl props with this group of books that were graded wrong (especially 1 of them). no luck getting them changed. lesson learned, cannot be trusted to grade things properly

                  https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28414628
                  Does this help you? https://imgur.com/a/NNPXWVe I know it's an old issue by now.
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                  • SBR Forum
                    Administrator
                    • 12-02-06
                    • 4559

                    #10
                    Guys we need your account number so Sportsbetting.ag can look into this. There are so many prop markets spread that this will greatly accelerate the time by being able to quickly pull up the details. Neither of you have filed complaints yesterday. We also sent an email and PM.
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                    • eaglesfan371
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-08-19
                      • 4079

                      #11
                      Stop complaining, stop calling betonline, the min wage phone clerks won’t help you.

                      Take 5 minutes, fill out the SBR complaint form, provide all evidence possible, account #, betslip etc and wait. SBR is VERY good at helping resolve issues at books.
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                      • DontTailMe
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-24-19
                        • 2897

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SBR Forum
                        Guys we need your account number so Sportsbetting.ag can look into this. There are so many prop markets spread that this will greatly accelerate the time by being able to quickly pull up the details. Neither of you have filed complaints yesterday. We also sent an email and PM.




                        I didn't fill out a complaint because, as I said yesterday, I hadn't disputed the wager with LowVig yet and was planning to do so as soon as I had a free moment. But given that the book has requested this info, I provided you with this information via PM. Let me know if you need anything else.




                        PS: I can upload video of the pre-game show
                        somewhere on the Internet,
                        if necessary, to prove that Barkley never made the pick.

                        PPS: Actually, after reviewing the OP again, it seems that point is not in question. They appear to acknowledge that no pick was made.
                        Last edited by DontTailMe; 04-18-19, 01:50 PM.
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                        • dlknfdslknfdlskn
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 04-17-19
                          • 47

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SBR Forum
                          Guys we need your account number so Sportsbetting.ag can look into this. There are so many prop markets spread that this will greatly accelerate the time by being able to quickly pull up the details. Neither of you have filed complaints yesterday. We also sent an email and PM.
                          Done.
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                          • DontTailMe
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-24-19
                            • 2897

                            #14
                            I'm curious if there has been any progress made with LV/BOL on this.
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                            • dlknfdslknfdlskn
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 04-17-19
                              • 47

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SBR Forum
                              Guys we need your account number so Sportsbetting.ag can look into this. There are so many prop markets spread that this will greatly accelerate the time by being able to quickly pull up the details. Neither of you have filed complaints yesterday. We also sent an email and PM.
                              SportsBetting hasn't done anything so far. SBR hasn't told me anything other than "following up" 3 weeks ago. Any info?
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                              • DontTailMe
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-24-19
                                • 2897

                                #16
                                I just wanted to give an update. I was looking through my account Transactions history and see that I was given a manual refund for this wager. Since I never received any communication to the affirmative, I had no idea to look for this and just saw it by chance. So good news. Thanks SBR and BOL!
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                                • shopLocal
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 05-23-19
                                  • 2

                                  #17
                                  That is why I only deal with local bookies. They offer credit and most are internet based. Any misunderstanding is dealt with swiftly and properly. The local guy has his entire reputation on the line. So, he is more likely to make a "wrong" a "right".
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 60847

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by shopLocal
                                    That is why I only deal with local bookies. They offer credit and most are internet based. Any misunderstanding is dealt with swiftly and properly. The local guy has his entire reputation on the line. So, he is more likely to make a "wrong" a "right".
                                    Try telling that to the regular stream of ripped off local users who come here asking why SBR cannot help them when the pay per head website tells them they have no responsibility for anything and they need to deal with the made up name local agent who has changed phone number and disappeared with their money.
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