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It was a legitimate mistake. Like I said I'm not a big time gambler like some Of the people on here. I don't know how this deposit withdrawal stuff works and had no idea it takes them 7 days to check if my banking info is legit. I just typed in the wrong number that's allComment -
As much i read i think this guy made it on purpose. If he won money trust me SBR would help him 100% to get winnings,because SIA doesnt want bad publicity over "honest" mistake by player.
500$ cant change your life,especially you live in Canada,not some third world country where monthly sallary is 50$.
Now you ask for some other shop similar to SIA because you like them,and because some 500$ you ruin it for yourself.
Looks like instadebit is ideal for chargebacks. You put money on your checking acc,made big deposit. Of you win some you leave it be and they take their funds,if you lose you just remove money from checking account and there is no money to debit...Comment -
If there was even a slight chance that SIA would pay him his hypothetical winnings then I agree that he should pay the 500$. But the key here is that there should never be this doubt. There should be a clear rule that states that either:
1. "We honour all wagers regardless of the deposits clearing" or
2. "If the deposits dont clear, all bets are invalid"
You cant have it both ways. You cant expect the player to honour all their wagers, but meanwhile the book can pick and choose when and if they want to do the same.Comment -
Number 1 would open the floodgates with thousands of "invalid" deposits. Thousands of scammers would be taking advantage of the rule.
Number 2 is the only one that makes sense. However, if OP genuinely tried to deposit and simply made an honest mistake (e.g. if he had been a longtime customer with numerous deposits at the book) I believe there should be some kind of exception.
I think he should pay them...he would be here complaining and creating a riot if he had won his bets and they had refused to pay him out. It goes both ways.Comment -
I feel like I explained to you why it would be a lose/lose situation for any book to intentionally hide a dishonored deposit.Opti your post not understanding the advantage the book can or could take here is odd to me. Rethink it.
To be clear, I absolutely believe the $500 should be paid to the book. The OP was intending to wager $500 and did. Unless the intention is different, the $500 is owed.
To be very clear, it doesn't matter whether or not the book has done something wrong in the past or whether or not there is a history of slow pay. The book is exploiting the lag time in the deposit method to free roll the player and is also accepting wagers that they do not intend to honor.
I'm saying I would not do business with groups that behave this way. I was also saying that this is more the norm in the industry than not.
It's tough in that regard but if you're like me, and your outs have outs, then you may be able to afford the luxury of choosing who you do business with; I would choose not to do business with these guys.
That said, I wouldn't rip them off of $500 I intended to gamble with anyway.
All you have said again is that the book freerolls the player with no explanation.
There must be some advantage to call it a free roll.
I don't think you can explain ANY advantages to the book if you try. The way I explained the disadvantages.
You're normally pretty smart. Surely you can explain WHY you are calling it a freeroll by the book. Just tell me one advantage it gives them?!
I don't think you can.
Anyway, not up for further argument. You can have the last words. I'm just encouraging it more with this discussion it seems..Comment -
You wanted to make the bets. You lost the bets. The book did not get your money.
There is no other angle to consider.
None of us would like to give up $500 if we don't have to. But that's the point where your personal ethics are exposed. Some people will genuinely be happier to know they did the right thing. Some people just wont care and won't pay. And then there are people like you who know they are wrong but will play mental gymnastics to feel better about not doing the thing they know is right.
If not paying is the option you choose to take, own it like a man and stop acting like a weasel trying to have your cake and eat it too by deflecting on someone else for your mistake and choice of how to deal with it..Comment -
1)No Book should credit money before it's actually received- If SIA does that, they are stupid, but they also should honor any bets on said money, win or lose.
2)A player should honor his bets if he expects a book to honor his bets.
3)If SIA is the same as it was back when they took US players, an EXTREMELY Dog friendly book, I'd pay them the $500 back, and take advantage of those lines for many multiples of $500, before they toss you. Besides it being the right thing to do.Comment -
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What if the deposit had been to Betcascade ( or any other no-pay book) instead of Sportsinteraction? Should he then also transfer the money? He wanted to make the bets, and he lost the bets, so according to you he should. This is why I find this case interesting. Its not as morally clear cut as you make it out to be. I would probably also transfer the 500$ to SIA because I wouldnt be 100% sure they wouldnt have paid me if I had won. Which is why I believe there should be some clear cut rules.
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I agree. Option 2 is the only one that makes sense.Comment -
I know a lot of you guys don't want to help me because you think I'm an asshole but maybe someone out the there will help e out. Are there any books similar to SIA, other than bet365. Lots of in play and deposit and withdrawal without bitcoin. I found a site called marathon bet. Are they legit?Comment -
SIA and marathon are more legit than you.
you want to scam SIA fine. but coming here and acting like you should have the right to not pay shows a lot about who you are. you will scam another book in the future. any chance you get , you will take it. I don't think your an asshole. I think you are just wrong and don't have the balls to admit your wrong in not paying,but will do it anyways because it's $500 and a lot of money to you. me too. everyone else too, rather they admit it or not.Comment -
I am wrong. I can admit that I'm wrong. Still won't pay. It makes me laugh how you guys come one here and bitch and complain that these books aren't paying you and how they are using stall tactics to pay you, but then I'm here not paying them and I'm the devil. Thanks for the help by the way.Comment -
you can screw them because sportsbooks sometimes screw customers. brilliant. so if I get robbed on the street, then I can walk the streets looking for an opportunity to rob someone else. one thing has nothing to do with the other. "what if" this or that shit has nothing to do with what happened. don't pay them. who cares. the book doesn't even care. the only one who cares is you. not sure you know you care but you do.we all live with what we have done. good and bad. I hate some of the shit I've done. can't change it so I live with it. plenty of worse things to do than screw a sportsbook. you will have no problem living with the fact that you screwed SIA out of $500. it's just not that big of a deal.good luckComment -
I really think I must have missed something here
Unless sia honors winnings on bad deposits (as in they say”your deposit didn’t go thru but u won, so just deposit that amount that didn’t go through and we will then credit ur winnings”) I don’t see any scenario in which that book was at risk for anything, yet they want the op to cough up the money and some posters and mods feel it would be immoral not to. I really don’t get itComment -
You should go to 1xbet they have fast as lightning withdrawals and many options. You would like.Comment -
It was a reply to TheGuesser.
Your deposit method is irrelevant for this case, as mentioned above, everything has been said about it and it comes down to your own decision. The right thing to do is pay them, everything else is just stuff to justify your decision not to pay.Comment -
It's the only reason I'm in this thread. I'm trying to add a bit of old school gambling values where there may not be any. Just because books have done things a certain way without change over the years doesn't make the now "normal" behavior acceptable.
Books have really gotten used to being able to cancel out winnings and not honor wagers they accepted in the name of policies.
Just because a sign says they will, doesn't make it right.
If the OP had won the bet the right thing and the only thing would be to honor the bet and pay the bettor when the banking info is corrected and the book is made right. That was not going to happen here. The book would not honor the bet.
I wouldn't be surprised if the truth was that the book was waiting for the player to lose to inform him. We've seen win streaks that last for days be completely nullified for the same kind of "errors." Maybe this thread would instead have been about how his win streak won't become a payout.
Look, there are many advantages to a book finding an excuse to free roll players, especially new players.
I'm not going to list some of them as I feel it's inside information that I shouldn't divulge but I'll add 100% risk free betting and the ability to profile a player before deciding to work with them are just two advantages to free rolling the OP in this instance. The secrets of profiling run deep and this is first step that books have been "allowed" to take by the betting public.
Unfortunately, it appears that both parties, if given the chance, would have not honored the wagers they made.
This begs the question, who made the banking info mistake and was it really a mistake? Both the book and player could claim clerical error here.
And now we can't put that past either but since the $500 resulted in a loss, I wouldn't in this instance jump to accuse the book of forcing an error here, even if they stoop low enough to take bets they later won't accept.
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if you win, would you like to get paid?
theres you answer on if you should pay who you oweComment -
Here's the deal guys. I do feel bad not paying. I contacted sports interaction, explained the situation, told then I'm self excluded. They told me that I am unable to pay the 500 owing until my self exclusion is up in 6 months. So in 6 months I will come one here and tell you guys that I paid so you don't think I am a bad guy.
Now that I'm a good guy again. Can someone seriously suggest a book with a lot of in play that has easy deposit withdrawal procedures that are not bitcoin. Anything but bet365Comment -
Of course they did, after all, you made the issue public.
They should just let everyone know that deposits like this method could result in all bets, win or lose, being voided if something goes wrong.
Instead some customer service guy lied to you, or maybe he doesn't know better.
That's weak.Comment -
How's bodog? Legit site?Comment -
You are piece of Sh#t, if one read all you wrote.You deserve your name shared between all shops online so you get blacklisted everywhere adn nobody pay you a nickle.
Because of idiots like you books are so crazy about verification.
P.s why not bet365,you screwed them too. Scamming pos.Comment
